Ohio - difference in polling hours depending on majority party in district

[Jhhnn]

I do seem to get a whiff of the usual cognitive dissonance resolved with obfuscation & denial routine from the usual suspects.

Perhaps they'll address the factual information in the OP's link.

Probably not.

 

[kage69]

But dude, he's a republican.

Heh funny, we were just talking about noise sources....

Anyway, ha! Throw the book at any Dems caught doing the same thing! I hope it would constitute more than simply being made to stay in your own house though.

I'm more concerned with stamping out real threats in lieu of imaginary ones that create actual problems. It's not really my fault if the GOP has it the other way around, if Dems were pulling the same thing I'd still have a problem with it. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect political parties to win or lose dependent on their message and record.

 

[nehalem256]

I do seem to get a whiff of the usual cognitive dissonance resolved with obfuscation & denial routine from the usual suspects.

Perhaps they'll address the factual information in the OP's link.

Probably not.

Ok lets do that. From the article.

But, if you live in Cincinnati, you’re out of luck. Republicans on the county election board are planning to end early voting in the city promptly at 5 p.m., and ban it completely on weekends, according to The Cincinnati Enquirer. The convenience, in other words, will not be extended to the city’s working people.

So lets see restricting the convenience of early voting will not result in voter fraud.

Nor will restricting the convenience of early voting result in voter suppression. Everyone still has ample time to vote.

 

[Jhhnn]

Ok lets do that. From the article.



So lets see restricting the convenience of early voting will not result in voter fraud.

Nor will restricting the convenience of early voting result in voter suppression. Everyone still has ample time to vote.

It's just that some voters are more equal than others, enjoy greater convenience than others- those who live in Repub districts.

Have you no shame?

 

[BladeVenom]

53,000 Dead Voters Found in Florida --http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2012/05/16/53000-dead-voters-found-in-florida/

1.8 Million Dead People Still Registered To Vote --http://www.npr.org/2012/02/14/146827471/study-1-8-million-dead-people-still-registered-to-vote

 

[nehalem256]

It's just that some voters are more equal than others, enjoy greater convenience than others- those who live in Repub districts.

Have you no shame?

So you concede that there is no voter fraud or voter suppression. Thank you.

 

[Phokus]

53,000 Dead Voters Found in Florida --http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2012/05/16/53000-dead-voters-found-in-florida/

1.8 Million Dead People Still Registered To Vote --http://www.npr.org/2012/02/14/146827471/study-1-8-million-dead-people-still-registered-to-vote

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_12/the_evidence_bolstering_voterf034087.php

Strange how the republican lawyers association could only find 311 instances of voter fraud IN THE LAST DECADE

But yes, lets purge thousands of innocent voters from being able to vote in order to stop maybe 1 voter per state from committing voter fraud. Again, the only fraud being committed is by Republicans. We get it, you don't want the young, the elderly, and especially blacks to have voting rights.

It's like you guys want to use an atomic bomb to kill a mosquito.

 

[Phokus]

So you concede that there is no voter fraud or voter suppression. Thank you.

Not from the Democratic side. You're welcome.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_12/the_evidence_bolstering_voterf034087.php

 

[Jhhnn]

So you concede that there is no voter fraud or voter suppression. Thank you.

No shame whatsoever.

Equal opportunity means nothing, obviously.

 

[werepossum]

Since it's in the vein of the thread, I'll add a personal story. My cousin owns an insurance agency and the Republican Party has been trying to get him to run for state office for years. This year he actually did it. Trouble is, there's another guy running, a three term incumbent with the support of the local (and much of the state) Republican Party, as he's been active in local politics for a couple decades. Now this is a very rural, very conservative district and the Democrats didn't even field a candidate, so the winner of the Republican primary will be the Representative. It's been unbelievably dirty because my cousin, being an extremely personable and well known person, is getting the support of most all the Democrats (which obviously isn't a lot of people or they'd have their own candidate, but in a tight election can be decisive.) The other candidate has been challenging every ballot he doesn't know is his voter, and the lady in charge of the voting in my home county has been backing him up. She even refused to let the wife of the Republican mayor vote and she's voted in the Republican primary the last five election cycles. The mayor's wife had to vote on a provisional ballot - as did a significant portion of the county I believe. The mayor's wife then filed a complaint with the TBI who put an end to that, plus some other shenanigans. At one point the voting machines stopped reporting and while the technician was fixing the problem the lady in charge was overheard telling the other candidate that she knew one thing, when the machines began reporting again he'd be in the lead. Turns out the guy she thought was nobody was TBI. Doh! There may (or may not) have been some tampering as he did lose in his home county, but luckily for him he operates insurance agencies in the other counties and won those. He's the only challenger to beat a Tennessee State House incumbent this election. So I'd never claim vote tampering is an exclusively Democrat activity.

Anyway, long story short my cousin is going to be a Representative. But it's only at the state level, so I can continue to use "Congresscritter".

 

[umbrella39]

Let's add another story

Four GOP House Staffers From Michigan Indicted for Election Fraud

http://www.alternet.org/hot-news-views/four-gop-house-staffers-michigan-indicted-election-fraud

Yep, McCotter is/was my rep... It has been hilarious to read the Detroit News and Free Press comments section of the unhinged wingnuts blaming it on the democrats and that these 4 were secret operatives. It's a big story here, remember this guy had a short run at President just a year ago!

 

[trenchfoot]

Awww, so the Repubs got busted attempting to deny Dem voters an equal opportunity at voting......again.

And the Repubs in this forum are now forced to defend the indefensible.....again.

Great! I never get weary hearing so many sphincters gnawing on whitie tighties all in the same place and all at the same time.

 

[OrByte]

53,000 Dead Voters Found in Florida --http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2012/05/16/53000-dead-voters-found-in-florida/

1.8 Million Dead People Still Registered To Vote --http://www.npr.org/2012/02/14/146827471/study-1-8-million-dead-people-still-registered-to-vote

were any of those dead people standing in line casting votes?

 

[trenchfoot]

were any of those dead people standing in line casting votes?

Well, if you told that to a whacko rightie, he'd/she'd post that on their blog, it'd get picked up by FOX and/or Limbaugh and you'd see it and hear it on every rightie news channel and station five minutes after you let on about it.

Of course, the obligatory lead-in would be "It's been said that ....." of which it would evolve into "Positive proof has been found that...." of which it would then evolve into "There is no evidence to refute that...." and, well, we all know how that goes.

 

[BladeVenom]

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_12/the_evidence_bolstering_voterf034087.php

Strange how the republican lawyers association could only find 311 instances of voter fraud IN THE LAST DECADE

They only found 311 prosecutions for voter fraud. "all the cases of voter fraud that have been prosecuted."

You have no idea how many people got away with it.

Voter fraud is wrong and should be prevented.

 

[bfdd]

"They're just as bad" is no defense in this particular incident. Partisan voter suppression is blatant & obvious.

Modern Repub leaders have no shame, no sense of fair play, at all. Voting days & hours should be uniform within any state as an exercise in common decency. They seem to lack that as well.

I'm not a Republican, so for me to say that isn't to justify their wrong doing, it's more to bring up the fact that BOTH major parties are cheating assholes and anyone supporting either of the establishment owning parties is a piece of shit.

 

[BladeVenom]

For those ignorant of history read about the 1960 elections.

"Fannin County had only 4,895 registered voters, yet 6,138 votes were cast in that county, three-quarters for Kennedy." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1960

 

[cybrsage]

Strange how the republican lawyers association could only find 311 instances of voter fraud IN THE LAST DECADE

Awesome, so you effectively destroy the argument that it is not happening. When other libs claim there is no voter fraud happening, I will tell them to talk to you.

Thanks! They are programmed to only believe other libs.

 

[cybrsage]

For those ignorant of history read about the 1960 elections.

"Fannin County had only 4,895 registered voters, yet 6,138 votes were cast in that county, three-quarters for Kennedy." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1960

"More votes cast than there were registered voters does not mean there was any voter fraud." - lib

 

[BladeVenom]

President John F. Kennedy once famously asked local political boss Raymond Chafin how much money he wanted so that Kennedy could carry Southern West Virginia in the 1960 Presidential Election, and Chafin replied "thirty five," meaning $3500. Kennedy's men returned with a suitcase full of $35,000, making it one of the more famous instances of miscommunication in the greasing of political palms in Logan history.

Here's a look at just one county. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_scandals_in_Logan_County,_West_Virginia

 

[Orignal Earl]

Yep, McCotter is/was my rep... It has been hilarious to read the Detroit News and Free Press comments section of the unhinged wingnuts blaming it on the democrats and that these 4 were secret operatives. It's a big story here, remember this guy had a short run at President just a year ago!

I guess because I posted the alternet link that means it did not happen...

We should just stick to the real issues here

Inner city black people
Illegal Mexicans
Gun Grabbers
Muslim World Dominance

 

[woolfe9999]

For Crissakes, there was a thread just last week about the Obama's admin's legal challenge to an Ohio statute to give an extended voting window ONLY to members of the military but not other classes of voters.

I guess there is no end to this shit?

 

[werepossum]

For Crissakes, there was a thread just last week about the Obama's admin's legal challenge to an Ohio statute to give an extended voting window ONLY to members of the military but not other classes of voters.

I guess there is no end to this shit?

You see no reason why someone who might be deployed on a ship or at a forward fire base, not free to leave at his or her own discretion, risking death for his country in a nation without clean water, much less a functional mail system, might deserve a bit more consideration in voting than, say, Madonna?

Seriously, no reason at all?

 

[berzerker60]

Awesome, so you effectively destroy the argument that it is not happening. When other libs claim there is no voter fraud happening, I will tell them to talk to you.

Thanks! They are programmed to only believe other libs.

Literally nobody thinks that voter fraud never happens in absolute terms. When people say it doesn't happen, they mean in a statistically relevant sense. For example, if someone proposed a law forbidding fat people from eating McDonald's because they could catch Mad Cow, I'd say it's bullshit because McDonald's doesn't give you Mad Cow. You might respond with one case from 1960, which would be a stupid rebuttal. "But you just said no one gets Mad Cow!!!!" you'd reply stupidly, when of course I meant that it's extremely rare and certainly not something that happens often enough to justify the laws being proposed. Further, since it's aimed at fat people, I'd suspect the true motives are related to obesity rather than the "Mad Cow problem."

You see no reason why someone who might be deployed on a ship or at a forward fire base, not free to leave at his or her own discretion, risking death for his country in a nation without clean water, much less a functional mail system, might deserve a bit more consideration in voting than, say, Madonna?

Seriously, no reason at all?

Absolutely not. Everyone should be given adequate time in which to fully consider and register his vote, soldier and Madonna alike. If the current allotted time isn't enough, by all means lengthen that time, but do it for everyone. It's not like you have a 6 hour window to vote with an absentee ballot.

 

[Phokus]

Awesome, so you effectively destroy the argument that it is not happening. When other libs claim there is no voter fraud happening, I will tell them to talk to you.

Thanks! They are programmed to only believe other libs.

1. It's a miniscule amount.

2. You are assuming they are all democrats

3. And if they were all democrats, the democratic party is doing a rather pathetic job of commiting voter fraud considering the miniscule number

4. And that doesn't justify Republicans blocking thousands of innocent voters from voting just to MAYBE catch ONE person for voter fraud (if they're lucky). We get it, you hate the poor and blacks having the right to vote. It's the conservative legacy.