Ohio Court Sentences Black Woman to 18 Months in Prison the Day After Giving White Woman Probation for Same Crime

woolfe9998

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The white woman was way under-punished there.

However, the anecdote is pretty meaningless, particularly since different judges handed out the two sentences. If you pick through data and use only certain examples, you can prove sentencing discrimination against any group of people.

This, however, a link embedded in your article, supports your point much better.


Study crunches large scale data on sentencing for federal crimes, concludes that black people convicted of crimes received 20 percent longer sentences than similarly situated whites who commit the same offenses.

That is a racial bias in the judiciary.
 
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Bunch of crap. I hope the news spot light will help over turn some of the punishment the black lady is receiving, and punish the white lady more. I know nothing about legal stuff, if that is even possible at this point.
 

brandonbull

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The white woman was way under-punished there.

However, the anecdote is pretty meaningless, particularly since different judges handed out the two sentences. If you pick through data and use only certain examples, you can prove sentencing discrimination against any group of people.

This, however, a link embedded in your article, supports your point much better.


Study crunches large scale data on sentencing for federal crimes, concludes that black people convicted of crimes received 20 percent longer sentences than similarly situated whites who commit the same offenses.

That is a racial bias in the judiciary.
Is there any data to show punishment for crimes across income levels? We had execs stealing billions and no one was punished at all.
 

woolfe9998

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Here is an apple.

Here is an orange.


OP: WHY ARENT THEY THE SAME THING??????

You're right, no two cases are alike. But if you read the article, which we all know you didn't, it goes into some detail about the two cases. The white woman's crime was much worse. She stole more money and over a longer period of time.
 

woolfe9998

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Bunch of crap. I hope the news spot light will help over turn some of the punishment the black lady is receiving, and punish the white lady more. I know nothing about legal stuff, if that is even possible at this point.

I don't think the black woman was unjustly sentenced. But the white woman was given probation after stealing $238,000, which is absurd. The judge's reasoning was that she paid back some of what she stole, after she got caught. Great rationale for letting someone off with no jail time after 20 years of serial embezzlement.
 
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You're right, no two cases are alike. But if you read the article, which we all know you didn't, it goes into some detail about the two cases. The white woman's crime was much worse. She stole more money and over a longer period of time.

I read it. Again, do you think 2 different cases can be summed up in a couple paragraphs? Nah. Of course not. But morons on this forum sure will act like it because they are 12 years old.

Which do you think is worse? Slowly stealing $200,000 over the course of years trying to undetected in budgets that don't belong to you?

Or stabbing someone and putting a gun to someone head and stealing $20,000 cash from them?


Again, things aren't simple in life - and yet both can be summarized as simple as robberies.
 

woolfe9998

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I read it. Again, do you think 2 different cases can be summed up in a couple paragraphs? Nah. Of course not. But morons on this forum sure will act like it because they are 12 years old.

Which do you think is worse? Slowly stealing $200,000 over the course of years trying to undetected in budgets that don't belong to you?

Or stabbing someone and putting a gun to someone head and stealing $20,000 cash from them?


Again, things aren't simple in life - and yet both can be summarized as simple as robberies.

To be clear on one point, there is no racial motive proven here because the two cases were decided by different judges.

However, I've seen enough information to know that getting off with probation after stealing $238,000 is ridiculous. I don't really know why the white woman was given a slap on the wrist other than the inadequate one given by the court (that she paid back some of it after being caught), but probation was clearly not the appropriate sentence there.
 
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pauldun170

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Case 1 - embezzled nearly $250,000 and when caught, agreed to forfeit more than $200,000 in her public employee pension to the village. She wrote another check Monday $100,000 to cover her theft and the cost of a forensic audit the village conducted after discovering it.

Case 2 - Embezzled nearly $40,000 and when caught liquidated her public employee pension shortly after the district discovered the theft. The move prevented the state from seizing the money to pay back the district.

While some would have liked the individual in case 2 to receive the treatment that the individual in case 1 received, both individuals deserved prison time requested by the prosecutor with case 1 receiving more time based on the amount and length of time.

Case 1 is a some bullshit where being able to pay grants you a slap on the wrist for wrong doing. I would bet money that had the individual in case 2 replicated the actions in case 1 that she would have gotten the punishment requested.
I'm not so sure about if Bosworth replicated what Hopkins did. I think she would have seen prison in that case. Probably the bare minimum but definitely prison.
 

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Bunch of crap. I hope the news spot light will help over turn some of the punishment the black lady is receiving, and punish the white lady more. I know nothing about legal stuff, if that is even possible at this point.
I would imagine that the same racial bias that causes blacks to receive harsher sentences will cause this case to be forgotten before any effort succeeds in fixing it. Maybe when this happens to a beautiful blond.....
 
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thilanliyan

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Is there any data to show punishment for crimes across income levels? We had execs stealing billions and no one was punished at all.
That's a given lol. Of course Dems are the only ones even remotely interested in holding wall street types accountable, but that is not a wedge issue so doesn't make the cut.
 

HomerJS

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Here is an apple.

Here is an orange.


OP: WHY ARENT THEY THE SAME THING??????
Same crime, stupid. One stole a Fuji the other a granny smith. The white woman stole a dozen apples the black woman stole 5.

Those them apples. Same reason blacks get harsher sentences for pot possession vs whites. That has ALREADY been proven.