Ohio couple get 8 years in in son's cancer death

[rudder]

Something doesn't jive. Rightwingers in this thread are saying these parents should be punished by the government for not buying medical care for their kid. Sounds like a mandate by the government for people to buy a product from a third party...

The only thing mandated by the government is the fact that you are the guardian of your children until they are 18. The parents are being punished because they neglected their child and he died.

Nice try... but fail.

 

[CPA]

If you had actually read the entirety of the article you linked, you'd understand that this conclusion doesn't hold any water. These people had options. This was an obvious case of neglect.

It's Dave, what do you expect. He reads a headline, usually blames it on Repubs, then moves along to post another of his inane nonsense.

 

[waggy]

Yea cause your ass calling CPS is too much of a hassle.

one of the articles i read said the reason the family moved is that CPS was looking into them.

 

[OutHouse]

they cared more about their damn dog and drugs then they did for their own son.

let them rot.

 

[woolfe9999]

Well, I think the parents were clearly negligent. However, I think we need to be careful about rushing to judgments. A lot of people in here are making the assumptions that cancer care is cheap or that it is easy to diagnose. It's not. Even finding a good oncologist can be difficult if you are in a rural area.

I had Hodgkin's Lymphoma for possibly 6-8 months before I felt sick enough to go to the doctor. I received an Xray that revealed something was seriously wrong. It still took two biopsies and about 2.5 weeks before a diagnosis was made. During this time I also received a bone marrow biopsy and an outpatient surgery to remove fluid build up near my lungs. Then it was six months of chemo and radiation. The total cost of my treatment was probably around $1.5 million, though honestly I have no real idea. Free clinics aren't going to offer the type of services needed to treat cancer. They are for the flu I highly doubt emergency room services will do the proper checks for cancer either, though in lymphoma's case an Xray will pick it up.

This reveals some of the major flaws in our health system, and we shouldn't brush them aside due to the rather sad nature of this particular case.

Cancer is a major problem for low income families simply because they often do not receive great routine care. Yes, Medicaid can help, but it can be very difficult finding a doctor who will take Medicaid. I discovered this myself after I finished treatment and went back to school. And the income limitations for Medicaid are incredibly stringent.

I think we need to be careful about rushing to judgements. If I recall correctly, a few years ago a religious family stopped bringing their child to chemo for Hodgkin's because they had religious objections. He got worse and eventually CPS intervened...ended up in court, created a big fuss.

I think you're right. Cancer is in general a real problem for people without resources, and it is rather unfortunate that the OP chose this example to illustrate the point.

I hope you're doing OK BTW. I've heard Hodgkins usually has a good outcome, though that depends on staging.

- wolf

 

[ichy]

Drug-addled pieces of shit.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9SV72E03.htm

Asked outside court why her sister hadn't taken care of Willie and hadn't enrolled him or three siblings in school, Slawinski said it was easier for Hussing to stay in bed during the day and do drugs. Both parents have abused drugs, their attorneys earlier told the judge.

 

[waggy]

I think you're right. Cancer is in general a real problem for people without resources, and it is rather unfortunate that the OP chose this example to illustrate the point.

I hope you're doing OK BTW. I've heard Hodgkins usually has a good outcome, though that depends on staging.

- wolf

yes. but when family ask you to take the child in to the doctor for years something is wrong. when the childs neck is the size of a softball something is wrong. It's time to take them to the clinic and find a fucking way to pay for it if you have to.

the parents didnt.

 

[shira]

OP's hero. Prime example of democratic party's constituents?

Brilliant, insightful analysis. Ever had yourself checked for a brain tumor?

 

[Xellos2099]

This couple is bad but will the end result be the same IF they take their son to the doctor? Chances that his son will STILL die with tons of debt? Highly likely. Chance that he his son die a more comfortable death? Debatable.

 

[waggy]

This couple is bad but will the end result be the same IF they take their son to the doctor? Chances that his son will STILL die with tons of debt? Highly likely. Chance that he his son die a more comfortable death? Debatable.

you do know that the cancer the boy had is one of the better ones? IF they had been parents and did what they are sopposed to there is a good chance the boy would have survived.

who cares about debt? i would put myself into debt as far as it takes to save my child's life. I can make money. I can't replace my child.