OH Woman forced off an airplane in handcuffs, strip-searched and interrogated.

[Texashiker]

Not really with the Patriot Act.

Makes great coffee table talk though.

Since when does the Patriot Act override my right to remain silent and my right to counsel?

 

[dmcowen674]

OH Woman forced off an airplane in handcuffs, strip-searched and interrogated

Amerika, Fuck yeah

 

[cirrrocco]

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest...woman-shocked-by-being-taken-from-plane-in-US

Its not actually shocking and I expect there are many more unreported stories like this out there but to me, its very sad. I completely understand that the officials were just doing there job however you would think there would be one reasonable person in the bunch?

No easy answers here just like all the other issues we face but damn...

America - Land of the frightened pussy's

 

[Ausm]

LOL!


I'd strip search her. But she'd have to pay me.

LMAO :thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[drebo]

I'm confused as to why the TSA is faulted here. What did they do wrong in this case?

Isn't it their job to make sure that threats as were supposed here are not allowed on the plane in the first place?

It's really not that hard to follow.

TSA stops terrorists at the airport = no need for people to be escorted off planes in handcuffs on "suspicion", because any real terrorist would have not been allowed on the plane.

If, on the other hand, the government has reason to believe that the TSA is ineffective (as anyone with a brain knows), then that would give rise to the need to have ANOTHER AGENCY (not the TSA, as you would expect) escort people off planes in handcuffs on "suspicion".

 

[ichy]

Not really with the Patriot Act.

Makes great coffee table talk though.

Constitution > Patriot Act. Nice attempt at trolling though.

 

[Darwin333]

oversealous.. you think? sequestering a plane on the tarmac and surrounding it with jack booted thugs with machines guns is a tad over the top for some passengers already screened by TSA.

Would you trust your life that people screened by TSA, that might be hostile towards you, had no weapons on them? I sure as hell wouldn't


The above is more of a bash of the TSA than defending the cops who, imo, went WAY the hell overboard. I am willing to give the cops a bit of slack though considering it was 9-11 and evidently there were credible threats of some sort of attacks happening, but just a bit.

 

[Texashiker]

Constitution > Patriot Act. Nice attempt at trolling though.

Bill of rights > Patriot Act

 

[ch33zw1z]

The moral of the story is: Don't be middle eastern, and sitting next to be people you don't know who choose to get up and utilize the facilities.

 

[Rainsford]

And I guarantee you every single one of them would prefer to deal with the consequences of being too cautious, than to deal with the consequences of not being cautious enough.

That's only because people are stupid and don't know how to properly weight risks (and have watched too many episodes of '24'). Being overly cautious about something that's incredibly unlikely to happen isn't intelligent even if the consequences of that thing happening are fairly severe.

In this particular case, you can't just weigh the consequences of acting vs the consequences of not acting. You have to consider the likelihood of acting being the incorrect choice for that situation. Terrorism is extremely rare, so the consequences of acting become very important, since it's a very good chance that "acting" will be the wrong choice.

 

[Infohawk]

The fact that this particular person is a blogger is just why we're hearing about this one and not the others.

http://news.yahoo.com/shoshana-hebshi-sept-11-flight-removal-sparks-important-160700863.html

It's uncomfortable for me to be in the spotlight. As a writer and former newspaper reporter, I never thought twice about having my byline published. But I have always preferred the sidelines to the spotlight and writing about injustice rather than being the subject of it.

Yeah right that's why she supplied her own photo for this follow-up and is now part of the Yahoo contributor network. This seems like a real opportunity for a freelance writer.

 

[werepossum]

Constitution > Patriot Act. Nice attempt at trolling though.

I'm not sure that is true. There are few if any rights which are absolute (which is why they must be so zealously defended against encroachment except when absolutely necessary) and the Patriot Act at the least bends some rights and arguably breaks them. I'm not one of those people who loses sleep over the Patriot Act, but I'd say that at the least it infringes on some things which were considered Constitutional rights before the Patriot Act.

 

[Munky]

And that's why "report any suspicious activity" is just another step towards eradicating constitutional rights. Nazi Germany wasn't established overnight. Communist Russia wasn't established overnight either. I'm sure somewhere along the way, "report any suspicious activity" was a non-issue to gullible sheep there too.

 

[Lithium381]

its for our own good you sheep!