Oh those poor, poor "christians"...

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child of wonder

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My irony meter just imploded.

Mine, too.

Jesus stated implicitly that Christians are to "hate the sin but love the sinner," as St. Augustine put it, as he congregated and spoke with tax collectors, prostitutes, and even told the thief hanging on a cross next to him that he shall see him in heaven.

I am absolutely positive he would look down upon his "followers" refusing to serve homosexuals.
 

schmuckley

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It's all good until they start telling you what you can and can't say or do.
Let the people use the stickers.
I in no way condone homosexuality or pedophilia,but I will serve them just as I would anyone else.
I'm not a wedding photographer, though.
 

ch33zw1z

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It's all good until they start telling you what you can and can't say or do.
Let the people use the stickers.
I in no way condone homosexuality or pedophilia,but I will serve them just as I would anyone else.
I'm not a wedding photographer, though.

Well, good for you. I've never met a homosexual who did condone pedophilia, however.
 

kage69

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Hmmmm The fact you felt the need to mention this, it appears that you were butthurt by the comments concerning atheists.


Seeing as I don't consider myself an actual atheist, I'd say your wishful assumption is just an attempt to divert from news that shows christians behaving like petulant brats.

I know you guys really need people who disagree with you to validate your anguish with fits of outrage, but I'm sorry to disappoint you. The reality is people like me enjoy pointing out stupidity and ignorance when we see it, particularly when it involves those with weak, dishonest arguments and/or double standards.

What does annoy me are posters who act so sure of themselves but are too pussy to acknowledge inconvenient information. Kind of poisons the debate. Sometimes it's best to try with a new thread, which incidentally must have gotten you a little butthurt as I noticed you didn't even attempt to address this thread's subject.

And please, stop abusing the word "fact." Religilous should stick to the much more subjective, forgiving and malleable term "truth," remember?
 
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shira

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Strange how businesses run by religious bigots aren't in a hurry to display signs and stickers supporting this kind of discrimination at their establishments, isn't it?

Freedom is a good thing, so why aren't all these poor victimized christians exercising their freedom to serve only those whom they approve of?

Glad you don't see a problem though, those christians would probably be happy to hear how you think their behavior doesn't actually contradict the precious religious ethos and morals they constantly advertise. Nothing escapes you Poker, you're like a sieve.

This is an excellent point. Interesting that we don't see signs in the windows of establishments run the far-right Christians that say "If you are a homosexual, please take your business elsewhere." I mean, we ALWAYS here these people proclaiming Christ. So I think it's time they own up to their bigotry and PUBLICLY announce their anti-gay policies.
 

JD50

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Businesses shouldn't discriminate. I think anyone using religious pretext to force someone to do so is wrong.

Then there was a vid about a North Korean who had escaped to the South. Just about everyone who met him shunned him. The police watch him. He's scorned, a pariah and discriminated against. It was so bad he tried to go back to the north. It's really horrible how he and others like him are treated. Oh, the only place where he is accepted was where the vid started, in a Korean church. The secular world rejected him. The government acts as if he's some hidden spy. Only at the church. So the comments about the video? They were complaining how stupid religious people are and mostly mocked them. That was so enlightened, eh? They ignored the problem, and one which is every bit as real and in some ways worse. Of course beating up the Christians was the important and right thing to do.

So yeah, one self righteous group of bastards vs another. What a choice.

That's a wonderful story. What does that have to do with NOT discriminating against gay people?
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Businesses shouldn't discriminate. I think anyone using religious pretext to force someone to do so is wrong.

Then there was a vid about a North Korean who had escaped to the South. Just about everyone who met him shunned him. The police watch him. He's scorned, a pariah and discriminated against. It was so bad he tried to go back to the north. It's really horrible how he and others like him are treated. Oh, the only place where he is accepted was where the vid started, in a Korean church. The secular world rejected him. The government acts as if he's some hidden spy. Only at the church. So the comments about the video? They were complaining how stupid religious people are and mostly mocked them. That was so enlightened, eh? They ignored the problem, and one which is every bit as real and in some ways worse. Of course beating up the Christians was the important and right thing to do.

So yeah, one self righteous group of bastards vs another. What a choice.

He probably was a child molester, so the church welcomed him as one of their own.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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That's a wonderful story. What does that have to do with NOT discriminating against gay people?

It has to do with comments made that I was addressing. What has your hatred and bigotry to do with that?
 

Londo_Jowo

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Seeing as I don't consider myself an actual atheist, I'd say your wishful assumption is just an attempt to divert from news that shows christians behaving like petulant brats.

I know you guys really need people who disagree with you to validate your anguish with fits of outrage, but I'm sorry to disappoint you. The reality is people like me enjoy pointing out stupidity and ignorance when we see it, particularly when it involves those with weak, dishonest arguments and/or double standards.

What does annoy me are posters who act so sure of themselves but are too pussy to acknowledge inconvenient information. Kind of poisons the debate. Sometimes it's best to try with a new thread, which incidentally must have gotten you a little butthurt as I noticed you didn't even attempt to address this thread's subject.

And please, stop abusing the word "fact." Religilous should stick to the much more subjective, forgiving and malleable term "truth," remember?

LMAO!!! I'm not religious much less a Christian so your rant has no meaning. The fact of the matter is you are butthurt by the words of Christians and that's why you mentioned it in your OP
 

Mursilis

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I love the line from the sticker "If you're buying, we're selling". :D Gay money is still green, n'est-ce pas?
 

boomerang

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even though it is Mississippi (and all that implies)
I'm curious to know the progressive viewpoint as it applies to Mississippi. In fact, I'd be curious to know the viewpoint towards all the 57 states. That's a lot of states so maybe you could share alphabetically say, 8 to 10 per day? Spread the typing out over a week or so? Or geographically if you feel that would be better. The thoughts of progressive bigots like yourself are always enlightening.
 

JD50

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It has to do with comments made that I was addressing. What has your hatred and bigotry to do with that?

What? This was the quote that you were responding to


I'm sure every thinking person here would love to listen to you explain how proudly displaying an anti-discrimination sign in favor of gay equality is "bigotry". Have at it, hoss.

What does your story have to do with that?
 
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I'm curious to know the progressive viewpoint as it applies to Mississippi. In fact, I'd be curious to know the viewpoint towards all the 57 states. That's a lot of states so maybe you could share alphabetically say, 8 to 10 per day? Spread the typing out over a week or so? Or geographically if you feel that would be better. The thoughts of progressive bigots like yourself are always enlightening.

I'm curious to know the conservatard viewpoint as it applies to California. In fact, I'd be curious to know the viewpoint towards all the 50 states. That's a lot of states so maybe you could share alphabetically say, 8 to 10 per day? Spread the typing out over a week or so? Or geographically if you feel that would be better. The thoughts of conservatard bigots like yourself are always enlightening.

Hey this is fun
 

Newell Steamer

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Someone remind me what Jesus (you know, the guy Christians are following), said about homosexuality again?

Thanks in advance.
 

MasterOfUsers

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Someone remind me what Jesus (you know, the guy Christians are following), said about homosexuality again?

Thanks in advance.

Not a single word.

You'd think that if it was important he would have at least ONE SENTENCE to spare to condemn it.

If you read even the verses in the Torah in Hebrew it's quite clear that the language it's translated into was wrong. Most Jews do not consider homosexuality an abomination because it's never mentioned in the Torah.

Sodom and Gomorrah certainly has nothing to do with homosexuality and yet it's preached in evangelical churches all the time.
 

CLite

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AFA per article said:
Ironically,this sticker represents the very promotion of discrimination...against the freedom of religious convictions. Businesses that display this sticker believe Christians should be forced, by law, to embrace homosexuality and deny their faith in personal business practices.

The mental gymnastics, supreme victimhood mindset, and unhealthy dose of self-pitying needed to arrive at the above statement is a wonder to behold.
 

Newell Steamer

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Not a single word.

You'd think that if it was important he would have at least ONE SENTENCE to spare to condemn it.

If you read even the verses in the Torah in Hebrew it's quite clear that the language it's translated into was wrong. Most Jews do not consider homosexuality an abomination because it's never mentioned in the Torah.

Sodom and Gomorrah certainly has nothing to do with homosexuality and yet it's preached in evangelical churches all the time.

And, another thank you is in store!

Also, Jesus did preach about love, peace, harmony, understanding, etc. Excluding, persecuting, oppressing others - is NOT Christian. So, these "Christians",.. aren't really true Christians, since they are:
1) liars (claiming Christianity is about excluding, persecuting, oppressing others)
2) doing things that are the opposite of Christianity

There will be a special place in hell for these folks.
 

kage69

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LMAO!!! I'm not religious much less a Christian so your rant has no meaning. The fact of the matter is you are butthurt by the words of Christians and that's why you mentioned it in your OP

Next time just say "I got nothing," it will save you time.

Rant not found, fact not found, butthurt not found. Try again?
 

MasterOfUsers

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And, another thank you is in store!

Also, Jesus did preach about love, peace, harmony, understanding, etc. Excluding, persecuting, oppressing others - is NOT Christian. So, these "Christians",.. aren't really true Christians, since they are:
1) liars (claiming Christianity is about excluding, persecuting, oppressing others)
2) doing things that are the opposite of Christianity

There will be a special place in hell for these folks.

Actually, you are forgetting about Paul who most Christians seem to hold in higher regard than Jesus.

Jesus words has little to do with today's Christianity and for a good reason, the human psyche. Being able to divide people into "us" and "them" and condemning them for being evil and the cause of all problems is something humans absolutely love to do.

What good is a religion if you can't use it to beat others over the head with it?
 

Retro Rob

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Someone remind me what Jesus (you know, the guy Christians are following), said about homosexuality again?

Thanks in advance.

Jesus said nothing about homosexuality....nor did he mention pedophilia, beastiality, object sexuality...and the list goes on.

So that catholic chruch, by virtue of Jesus not condemning it, are not wrong for sexually abusing kids.

How dare we use scripture to condemn them. Jesus NEVER condemned pedophiles.