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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...nt-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii
From Obama's own literary agency in 1991! D:
From Obama's own literary agency in 1991! D:
Oh snap, the birthers strike again!
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Note that Brietbart.com explicitly says they do believe Obama was born in the US, their point in showing this is that the media in general does not know anything about his past and do not want to know. And that is harmful to having fair politics and elections when 90% of the mainstream media is on the same team as one political party.
"Andrew Breitbart was never a "Birther," and Breitbart News is a site that has never advocated the narrative of "Birtherism." In fact, Andrew believed, as we do, that President Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on August 4, 1961. Yet Andrew also believed that the complicit mainstream media had refused to examine President Obama's ideological past, or the carefully crafted persona he and his advisers had constructed for him."
"Andrew Breitbart was never a "Birther," and Breitbart News is a site that has never advocated the narrative of "Birtherism." In fact, Andrew believed, as we do, that President Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, on August 4, 1961. Yet Andrew also believed that the complicit mainstream media had refused to examine President Obama's ideological past, or the carefully crafted persona he and his advisers had constructed for him."
Obama's past has been exhaustively researched, to think otherwise is at this point basically totally batshit insane. (hence why it is relegated to fake journalism sites like Breitbart's) What's interesting however is that you are claiming Breitbart is simultaneously claiming that the media doesn't know about Obama's past by virtue of this clipping (if it's even real), but then say that they have no doubts he was born in the US.
Do they possess some unique knowledge of Obama's past?
glenn1
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I fully believe that Barack was born in Hawaii as the birth certificate shows, but is such a stiff and square that he felt the need to claim a more exotic background than what he really had. This is probably an Elizabeth Warren situation - claim a background that isn't real when it benefits you and take it back later when it becomes inconvenient. Whether it's faking an American Indian background to land a job at Harvard Law, or claiming to be born in Kenya to look like a disadvantaged African exchange student when it helps you get into a book along with Tip O'Neil and Ralph Nader.
Wow. You mean companies make mistakes? I had no idea!
Let me tell you something -- I've spent the last three months researching CPUs and chipsets for a major writing project. If you had any idea how many errors I have found, even from reputable sources, it would curl your hair. Even Intel datasheets on their own processors are riddled with mistakes.
And by the way, these guys are playing a cute game claiming they "aren't birthers and are only vetting". If they really believed he was born in the US, they'd write this off as a mistake and be done with it. But they aren't -- they are trying to promulgate the birtherism nonsense while *pretending* they don't believe in it.
Let me tell you something -- I've spent the last three months researching CPUs and chipsets for a major writing project. If you had any idea how many errors I have found, even from reputable sources, it would curl your hair. Even Intel datasheets on their own processors are riddled with mistakes.
And by the way, these guys are playing a cute game claiming they "aren't birthers and are only vetting". If they really believed he was born in the US, they'd write this off as a mistake and be done with it. But they aren't -- they are trying to promulgate the birtherism nonsense while *pretending* they don't believe in it.
I completely agree with Breitbart on this. I'm not a birther either, but the media did an absolutely horrible job in vetting Obama because of a combination of ideological bias and general incompetence/laziness. The eating dog meat story was proof of how few in the media had actually read the biography of the POTUS.
This is a pernicious myth, ironically spread by the same institutions who have been doing nothing but screaming about every flaw or issue in his background they could find for the last five years.
How does this prove the media "did an absolutely horrible job in vetting Obama?" It shows what Breitbart admits is an error in a marketing pamphlet. I'm confused about how this relates to media bias.
wtf does the dog meat story have to do with anything? That was one of the most pointless and dumb 'vetting' things I've ever heard in my entire life. The discredit for that story would go to anyone stupid enough to think that it was news and actually publish it.
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No. The eligibility to be president requires you to be native born, or if foreign born, both parents U.S. citizens.
If the news media didn't write stories about how Obama ate dog meat when he was 8 years old it means that they are biased in his favor, not that stories about children eating dog meat are retarded.
Yeah, that and they apparently failed to discover that a literary agent of Obama's may have created an inaccurate pamphlet. And that was relevant because, because...Obama is incompetent by association with these incompetent literary agents?
Those who allege media bias need to be SPECIFIC as to what they believe the media missed about Obama. Stuff that actually matters.
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Yup, that's exactly what they're doing. Hoping the pamphlet will go viral, in which case it won't matter that they said on their website that they believe he was born in the US. They are trying to defame Obama with nonsense while maintaining their own credibility.
There is no theory by which this pamphlet is relevant to "media bias" or anything, really, except to birthers. They are playing to this audience and hoping to recruit more.
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schneiderguy
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I view it as part of the ongoing attempt to paint Obama as an other. There were all these complaints that he comes from some mysterious place, that we don't know anything about him (despite his two novels describing his life), etc.
I'm going to take a wild guess and say that right wing people have been intensively researching Obama's past for about 4 years straight at this point. Out of all that time what have they turned up that was relevant? Absolutely nothing. This whole 'no vetting' thing is just another way for conservatives to convince themselves that they were the victims of a media conspiracy to promote Obama instead of admitting the truth that he won a dominating victory fair and square.
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cybrsage
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Nope, there are entire sections which deal with the rules involved if only one parent is a citizen. Interestly enough, there is no equality between a mother and a father in these rules.
It isn't a "wild guess." There is zero chance that they have not daily been looking for dirt on him ever since he entered the primary in 2007. Basically we're getting a typical dose here of the fruits of that labor. This sort of thing is the best they can do.
The "media bias" is becoming the binding myth of American conservatism. I'm convinced that it could not exist, at least not in anything close to its present form, without it.
The irony is that the opposite it true. The media tends to bend over backwards to represent every hair brained conservative perspective just to prove how even handed they are. For example, there should never have been the degree of coverage of birther claims that we have seen in the MSM. How long before the MSM picks up on this piece of garbage, and we're treated to "even-handed" articles about how "birthers claim thus and such" followed by perfunctory statements by liberals debunking it. As if the two perspectives are equal.
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cybrsage
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About.com is almost as trustworthy as the huffington post...
Look here instead, it is always best to use a .state.gov site when talking about such things.
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_5199.html
I don't have to guess. I listen to talk radio.
Don't worry -- the "Whitey Tape" will turn up Any Day Now. [tm]
boomerang
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Well, I guess we'll see if they pick this up and run with it. I can just see it on MSNBC and CNN as the opening story this evening on their programs with coverage lasting a week or so.
Or not.
This is incorrect. Although much of this has never been tested, it is the opinion of the CRS that those born abroad only require one parent that fully meets US citizen requirements.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42097.pdf (see page 50)
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