OH SNAP - Obama warns Iran MUST BE STOPPED!!!!11

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ericlp

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Why should it be up to "US" to stop them? Personally I could give a shit less who develops a nuke.

Why does "EVERYONE" look the USA??? I think it's time someone else fucking ponied up some $$$ and men and arms to do the deed. I'm tried of spending money on the war machine. After spending it all on healthcare we are broke.

So Fuck Iran... Fuck Iraq and the rest of the middle east. We should just pull out and let these tards figure it out for themselves.

I could see it if gas went down to 50 cents a gallon then yeah! I'll go over there and pop a few rounds off myself! :)

I just don't see why we have to babysit these assholes.

Oh well ... Of course this is just my random thoughts for the day.
 

UberNeuman

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It's a sad day when the "gop" has devolved into the caricature of the Klingon Empire....

\taH pagh taHbe!!!
 

Throckmorton

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No neocon is you!

from wiki...

"Neoconservatism is a political philosophy that emerged in the United States of America, and which supports using American economic and military power to bring liberalism, democracy, and human rights to other countries."

Sounds just like you...

Wait... I'm a neocon??
 

irishScott

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Why should it be up to "US" to stop them? Personally I could give a shit less who develops a nuke.

Why does "EVERYONE" look the USA??? I think it's time someone else fucking ponied up some $$$ and men and arms to do the deed. I'm tried of spending money on the war machine. After spending it all on healthcare we are broke.

So Fuck Iran... Fuck Iraq and the rest of the middle east. We should just pull out and let these tards figure it out for themselves.

I could see it if gas went down to 50 cents a gallon then yeah! I'll go over there and pop a few rounds off myself! :)

I just don't see why we have to babysit these assholes.

Oh well ... Of course this is just my random thoughts for the day.

If only it were that simple. Unfortunately a very large chunk of our oil comes from there.

As for why everyone looks to the US, because they're either unable or unwilling to do shit themselves. Everyone bashes us for being Imperialist or some shit, yet refuses to recognize the ridiculous amount of international aid we put out. I wonder exactly how many non-US citizens we've fed over the last few decades, for free. In the millions at least. What other country can say that?

Hell look at Haiti. US relief efforts total more than 2/3 of the total manpower IIRC. The rest of the world can't or won't even donate half.

Like it or not, we're the big kid on the block. Everyone hates us yet asks for our help; because if nothing else our status as the big kid is currently undisputed. So we help, and by doing so throw other countries' relative weakness in their faces. Hence the hate.
 

UberNeuman

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Cause he's a whiny little bitch who thinks wearing adult clothing compensates for it.

ah, but he earned his position in Starfleet - and served for years as a valued member, until he chose to leave...

\Neelix... was, just Neelix....
 

irishScott

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ah, but he earned his position in Starfleet - and served for years as a valued member, until he chose to leave...

\Neelix... was, just Neelix....

Well yeah but Neelix didn't whine as much, and he actually had balls from time to time. Hell he manipulated Voyager and basically told the Kazon to go fuck themselves. Annoying little hedgehog, but he had something more than an academic technical trick when someone took over the ship.

Wesley just... what the fuck was he doing there? I mean I know he was basically just tagging along with mom, but compared the rest of the crew he just... no.
 

UberNeuman

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Wesley just... what the fuck was he doing there? I mean I know he was basically just tagging along with mom, but compared the rest of the crew he just... no.

Neelix was tagging along with Kes, who held the upper hand in the relationship....
 

cubby1223

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I'm tried of spending money on the war machine. After spending it all on healthcare we are broke.

Pelosi stood up in front of the House just before the vote and proudly stated that her health care bill is saving us $1.3 trillion. We're not spending money on healthcare, we're getting money back! And that's plenty enough cash to flatten Tehran with.
 

Noobtastic

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Hardly. Outright expulsion would have made them international pariahs, and not even the US would have stood in the way of sanctioning them into submission. They chose piecemeal expulsion instead, one settlement at a time, a slow motion version of lebensraum and ghetto-ization of the Palestinians. Well, and talk about peace while making a lot of excuses for not actually making peace, using provocations of any sort as rationale...

Wow, you are clueless. Israel could have easily expelled the Arab inhabitants - simply push further into Jordan and force belligerent "civilians" out. In 1967 the US did not have its hands in Israel there was no reactionary media.

This is why Israeli leaders call the 50s and 60s the "Golden Age" because it's when the IDF didn't fuck around and the enemy was pampered and warned ahead of attack as they are today.

And the world respected Israel more for it. It is unlikely Israel would become an international pariah. Palestinians were always secondary to the Arab claims, and in the 60s the PLO was an extension of Arab foreign policy, and thus an extension of Soviet communist foreign policy.

In other words, back then - the Arab states did not justify their war on the premise of a "Palestinian state."

Arab's expelled 900,000 Jews, the vast majority in post-1967, without becoming international pariahs.

In fact, they're glorified by the Left for doing it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_lands


None of which has anything to do with Iran, other than indirectly, and in the guilty consciences of a paranoid Israeli leadership... and their enablers...

Of course it doesn't - when you quote mine my post and remove everything you can't respond to in short, pre-written buzzwords and/or pallywood script.
 

heyheybooboo

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What has clearly been overlooked in the stimulating debate in this thread ...

... former US ambassador to the UN John Bolton ...

Hard to figure the bigger idiot.

Bolton? Or the folks who argue about something he said.





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Lemon law

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Our mistake in this forum is that we look at the Iranian position from everyone's point of view except Iran's.

We can state as a total fact that Iran has already made a large commitment to develop and use nuclear power for electrical power generation. A right every nation has under the UN charter.

At some future date, Iran will hit that fork in the road decision point, to stop at mere nuclear powered electrical power generation or go to have have both nuclear energy electrical power generation and also nuclear weapons.

When that decision point is reached, then Iran will have to look at the international threat level facing Iran. If Israel is still led by the same crazy settler parties and the US has not rejected zanies like Dick Cheney, equally zany neocons, and GWB type thinking, we can understand why Iran may opt to refine its spent fuel rods to extract out the plutonium needed to produce nuclear weapons.

If on the other hand, its possible that Iran and the USA may form an alliance based on mutual interests, then work with Iran to develop a Iranian financed pipeline to India, thus allowing Iran to sell its huge natural gas reserves with the resulting employment being more than enough to solve our current Afghan problems.

And if that latter possibility results, Iran may well opt not to go on to develop nuclear weapons.

We also have to look at recent Iranian history, when Iraq damn near conquered Iran, and Iran could not purchase the weapons needed to defend itself. And the cliques of Rumsfeld and Cheney openly sided with Iraq. And Iran still has to listen to many in the international community who advocate bombing Iran.

If you were running Iran, you would probably want nukes to purchase that immunity from foreign conquest, if the foreign conquest threat level does not reduce.

But all in all, The Israeli fear mongering version of the Iranian nuclear program is utter bullshit. Because Israeli claims the Iranian intention is to produce enough 95% pure U235 to produce Uranium based bombs, and once Iran has a few such bombs, they will peg them immediately straight at Israel. Knowing full well it would be national suicide, because Israel already has 80+ plutonium based bombs it would be fully justified on using to retaliate against Iran. Add in the fact that Uranium ultra refinement is the slow route to nukes, and we can then conclude Iran would never have more nukes than Israel. Add in another fact, if Iran so hated Israel to the exclusion of all rationality, they have enough stockpiled chemical weapons to severely damage if not exterminate Israel right now, and the missiles to deliver them. And if so, Iran should use their chemical weapons now, before Israel can complete their anti-missile defenses, if we are to believe the Israeli Iran is bat shit crazy bullshit reasoning.

The other thing to point out the Mullah's days may be numbered in Iran, they are now acting like the Shah who got the ole heave ho, and their hold on internal Iranian power is tenuous at best. And if the Mullah's go the way of the dodo, Iran will still be committed to the peace time use of nuclear energy.
 
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