Oh no they got Chuck too!

Syringer

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http://godbegone.blogspot.com/...shits-on-american.html

All these years of thinking he was super awesome and worshipping him (For no particularly good reason mind you) have fallen down in the amount of time it took me to watch this commercial. I mean I always knew he was a religious nut, but this is taking it way too far.

I was hoping this was a parody of some sort, waiting for the punch line or something, but alas I've been crushed
 

HannibalX

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<<<I mean I always knew he was a religious nut>>>

So why does it bother you now? So he wants bible teaching in schools - we know that isn't going to happen. The man has a right to his opinions - or more importantly, what he was paid to say.

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nakedfrog

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If you want your kid to study the Bible in school, shouldn't you send them to a religious school?
 

mordantmonkey

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isn't this really old news?
yeah, it's dumb, and a little funny, but hey, he can hock whatever he wants.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
isn't this really old news?
yeah, it's dumb, and a little funny, but hey, he can hock whatever he wants.

You think he's running low on cash?
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
If you want your kid to study the Bible in school, shouldn't you send them to a religious school?

Absolutely.

Exactly. The Bible does NOT belong in public school.
 

HannibalX

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Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
If you want your kid to study the Bible in school, shouldn't you send them to a religious school?

Absolutely.

Exactly. The Bible does NOT belong in public school.

Well, I don't agree with that entirely. The study of different religions shouldn't be prohibited in schools - indoctrination should be prohibited. The government doesn't anymore have the right to tell me I MUST learn bible studies than tell me I CAN'T learn bible studies.

If you want your child to learn bible lessons because you want them to lead a bible-guided lifestyle you need to send them to a religious school, absolutely.
 

thepd7

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Any school teachers have any input?

When I was in World Geography in 9th grade we studied all the major world religions (Islam, Hindu, Buddhism, Christianity (protestant and catholic), Judaism, and Ba'hai a little).

Religion is a huge part of the world so it should be studied, but I agree not indoctrinated in school like pale rider said. And if you are going to study religion you should at least take a peek at the religious texts, one of which is the Bible.

 

Darwin333

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Originally posted by: Kadarin
Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
If you want your kid to study the Bible in school, shouldn't you send them to a religious school?

Absolutely.

Exactly. The Bible does NOT belong in public school.

I don't mind them teach about religious texts in a historical context as they did have a huge impact on history.

However, when I run into people that want the bible "preached" in school I always ask them if they think that religious texts from other religions should be taught there as well. Their answers are usually quite amusing and hypocritical.

With that said, I don't have a problem with what Chuck said, and I am an atheist. He is entitled to his opinion and if he can get paid expressing it then more power to him.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Well, I don't agree with that entirely. The study of different religions shouldn't be prohibited in schools - indoctrination should be prohibited. The government doesn't anymore have the right to tell me I MUST learn bible studies than tell me I CAN'T learn bible studies.

If you want your child to learn bible lessons because you want them to lead a bible-guided lifestyle you need to send them to a religious school, absolutely.
Something on religious history, perhaps, like the origins of the religions, and how they spread, that would be acceptable, so long as it's presented as a historical teaching. It can't be anything like, "So there were all these other heathen religions, sending all their followers to eternal damnation, but then there was THIS religion, which was finally the one correct religion, which you should all believe, or you'll suffer."
I had a basic history class in college, and one section of it was on the origins of the major religions. it was presented quite objectively, with no one religion being made out to be the "bad guy," and no favoritism shown toward any other.

But of course, this would cause some turmoil in this ignorant society. "Our religion wasn't founded in the Mideast! It was founded by God! It always existed!!!!" or, "Those filthy Buddhist monks, bald heads, what the hell's their problem? They killed millions of Jewish people during the Holocaust! Everyone knows that the one true god is Zeus!" Various ignorant crap like that would likely be spewed forth at the school administrations.

Ignorance is one disease with a mind of its own, and it fights for self-preservation, adapting more quickly than any organism, shielding itself from the blinding light of reality.



Originally posted by: Darwin333

I don't mind them teach about religious texts in a historical context as they did have a huge impact on history.

However, when I run into people that want the bible "preached" in school I always ask them if they think that religious texts from other religions should be taught there as well. Their answers are usually quite amusing and hypocritical.

With that said, I don't have a problem with what Chuck said, and I am an atheist. He is entitled to his opinion and if he can get paid expressing it then more power to him.
Well see, you can't teach those other texts, because they're not the "correct" religion. There's only one true religion. You know the one. :D
 

adairusmc

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[/quote]Originally posted by: Jeff7
Well see, you can't teach those other texts, because they're not the "correct" religion. There's only one true religion. You know the one. :D[/quote]

May you be touched by His noodly appendage.
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Well see, you can't teach those other texts, because they're not the "correct" religion. There's only one true religion. You know the one. :D

May you be touched by His noodly appendage.
Or the Invisible Pink Unicorn. :D I first saw that one in Anubis' sig, something to the effect of, "We know he's pink because of faith, and logically we know he's invisible because we can't see him."
 

Darwin333

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Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Darwin333

I don't mind them teach about religious texts in a historical context as they did have a huge impact on history.

However, when I run into people that want the bible "preached" in school I always ask them if they think that religious texts from other religions should be taught there as well. Their answers are usually quite amusing and hypocritical.

With that said, I don't have a problem with what Chuck said, and I am an atheist. He is entitled to his opinion and if he can get paid expressing it then more power to him.
Well see, you can't teach those other texts, because they're not the "correct" religion. There's only one true religion. You know the one. :D


Thats usually what I get. Bonus amusement when one occasionally tries to "rationalize" it. Kind of like the people who try to argue that Creationism is a science or even a scientific theory. When they use lack of understanding as proof positive that their religion is correct I have to try really hard not to bust out laughing.
 

Gooberlx2

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I would have no problem if the bible were taught in school. Right along with the Quran, Torah, and other religious texts in a Religions or Humanities class.
 

randym431

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PBS just had a NOVA on the attempt to teach "intelligent design" in schools as "science". The parents and school science teachers protested. It went to the courts (all sometime back), and even old GW said "the jury is out" on "intelligent design" (tells you his IQ level).
Then a GW appointed judge not only shot this crap down and put an end to it, it was exposed that the "fundies" had been behind it all along. A GREAT NOVA episode!!!!
Since, that judge has been getting death threats and f*cked up Pat Robinson told the city GOD was going to get even with the people living there for ?turning their backs?.
And heeeere we go? back to medieval times.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Pale Rider
<<<I mean I always knew he was a religious nut>>>

So why does it bother you now? So he wants bible teaching in schools - we know that isn't going to happen. The man has a right to his opinions - or more importantly, what he was paid to say.

/thread

don't you know? this is how liberals operate. freedom of speech except for when they disagree.
 

ultimatebob

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Yet another reason why Jack Bauer would beat him in a fight... assuming that the his actor wasn't drunk that day :)
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Pale Rider
<<<I mean I always knew he was a religious nut>>>

So why does it bother you now? So he wants bible teaching in schools - we know that isn't going to happen. The man has a right to his opinions - or more importantly, what he was paid to say.

/thread

don't you know? this is how too many people operate. freedom of speech except for when they disagree.
Corrected.:)