- Mar 28, 2003
No, I reject blanket proclamations of profanity's "inappropriateness".Am I to understand that you reject the concept of "manners"?
You're not paying close enough attention to my posts.spittledip said:Words have meanings behind them. Your posts are not making sense. The intent is interlaced with the meaning behind the words being used. Why do you think people choose some words to use and not others, especially in the case of profanity?
Of course, the audience of a message is critical to the process, but there are also bad or lazy audiences and I don't feel as though it is inappropriate to call them out as such.Whether you ascribe this to his "laziness" or not, I do think it hits a core point. The purpose of speech is communications. Communications requires two or more parties. Regardless of one's personal preferences, in order to communicate effectively one must consider the audience.
If your audience reacts negatively to gratuitous profanity, believing it shows you lack intelligence, class, whatever, it doesn't really matter how uptight and irrational you believe them to be for that reaction. The reality is you are not communicating effectively (unless, of course, your goal is to convince that audience you lack intelligence, class, whatever). You can rail against it until you're blue in the face; it doesn't change that reality. Your audience will judge you based on how you communicate, whether you agree with their standards or not.
This is what pisses me off about my uber religious in-laws. They say things like "Jiminy Christmas" or "Gosh Darnit" all the time, which as we all know have the exact same meaning as "Jesus Christ" and "God Damnit".Nothing.. I just find it stupid to complain about profanity.
Intent matters more than the word used. When someone says "Ah fudge!" everyone knows they meant to say "fuck", so what's so bad.. exactly.. about the word?
A high school teacher of mine said that profanity is the effort of a feeble mind.In general, it's simply unnecessary and it doesn't help communication at all. It usually just indicates a lack of strong vocabulary to articulate ideas.
When measuring the pro and con of using profanity, what are the pro's?
I'm not sure what a "lazy" audience is, at least as it pertains to profanity. I do understand the idea of a prissy audience, or a formal audience. I also understand that even people who aren't offended by profanity will still judge a speaker who uses it lazily or gratuitously, just as they do with other verbal traits (poor grammar, wrong word choices, etc.)Of course, the audience of a message is critical to the process, but there are also bad or lazy audiences and I don't feel as though it is inappropriate to call them out as such.
Oh, I agree. I use profanity when I want to add emphasis, giving due consideration to my audience and the environment. I do not use profanity gratuitously when writing, however.As someone who spends a lot of time crafting communication for an audience, I do understand the responsibility of the communicator. There are simply times when a "swear word" is the right word for the moment to communicate something effectively. Though I suppose I cannot be the arbiter of folks' desire to repress.