OH NO!!! I DONT HAVE AN ATI 9800 FOR HL2!!!

[Brackus]

Okay,

Honestly, I dont know what the hell happened to this site, but I just care about how the game plays on most cards that the majority of people still have, when the game actually gets released, can some people please run a nice test on VARIOUS settings on VARIOUS cards...

I mean, we have run the polls, most people have geforce 4 ti of some variation, or maybe a radeon 8500 variation or some kind of 9000, 9100, 9200... etc...

yes, I would love to buy an ati radeon 9700, maybe even a 9600, but I just cant, the rest of my computer sucks too, but I cant afford to upgrade that stuff either...

Anyway, I just wanna know if I can run this game PLAYABLY with most cool settings at 800x600 since it seems like 1024x768 is outta the question... If the game looks sick, and is actually a cool game, then hey, my ti4200 will have earned what I hoped it would since I have owned it for over a year...

But I guess that makes me a nvidiot, or whatever the hell everyone is saying, but realize this, the ti4200 was a great card, so was the 8500, and the 9500 and 9700 are awesome too, see, i consider value not just raw performance, most of us have real life issues that we cant just blow $400 on a vid card, and people are just not doing that now, but every friggen 6 months, and im an idiot?

Personally, I dont care, nvidia is solid, and so is ati, next card I likely get will be ati, and hey, they are based in canada so more power to them, goooo canada, but still, everyone needs to grow up, I dont care that your 9600 pro owns nvidia in halflife 2, i just wanna play that game, and so do millions and millions of other people, but hey, maybe you all are just scared that if the rest of us get to play the game that youll have more competition??

Anyway, im out, please only at least half intelligent responses...

 

[Schadenfroh]

Valve has stated that HL2 can scale back to DX6 cards and run on a TNT2, your 4200 will be fine

 

[Lonyo]

It looks as though the ATi 9600 won't be too bad in terms of performance at HL2, so those without $400 cards, and with only $150 should still be able to play the game OK.

Valve said they were trying for fairly low end PC's to be able to play it OK, so I'd guess that, although you'd not have its full beauty, it would still play OK even on a not top-of-the-range PC.

I don't know exactly what you were trying to say, apart from maybe that not everyone can afford $400 video cards, so I hope my response is intelligent enough.

 

[oldfart]

Play the game and enjoy it no matter what your rig is. The 4200 will play the game in DX8 mode. Just adjust settings until you get smooth enough framerates to suite you. You may not have to play around with it very much. The game will detect your HW and adjust settings accordingly.

This game is not to be missed. Don't let not having state of the art HW discourage you from enjoying it! It will play fine.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Valve has stated that HL2 can scale back to DX6 cards and run on a TNT2, your 4200 will be fine

ya they also said that it wouldnt look much better than the orignal hl if you use a tnt2, but i am quite sure that a 4200 run hl2 respectably well and look a lot better than the orignal while doing so.

 

[xSauronx]

im _hoping_ to get a 9600 pro, from the source demo it looks like it will be beautiful with a dx9 card and the gf3 needs an upgrade, christmas here i come

 

[Shagga]

I do

 

[DaveSimmons]

Did you notice the benches include the ti4600? A ti4200 is slower, but 800x600 should be fine. You'll just be using the DX8 visuals instead of DX9.

Of course the fx5900 won't look much better once nV gets done "optimizing" to benchmark better.

Sigh. I really hope nV gets their act together for nv40.

 

[nRollo]

Of course the fx5900 won't look much better once nV gets done "optimizing" to benchmark better.

LOL, as if you actually know anything about it. Why don't you tell us about what DX12 will look like while you're predicting the future?

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Of course the fx5900 won't look much better once nV gets done "optimizing" to benchmark better.

LOL, as if you actually know anything about it. Why don't you tell us about what DX12 will look like while you're predicting the future?

Well, if you've read the description of the current nv3x code path, many shaders have already been degraded to 16-bit instead of 24 (which is 1/256 the potential accuracy) and performance is still poor. Based on how nV has optimzed for 3DMark, UT2K3, etc. there is a fair amount of existing evidence that nV will degrade the IQ further to get the speed up.

(ed) but you're right that I haven't seen the code in question and haven't even written any 3d rendering code since grad school, so I can't say with certainty that nV won't find some major optimizations that don't hurt image quality. Considering that Valve has already spent "5x the time" on the nV code path it doesn't seem too likely though.

 

[nRollo]

My point was we won't know till we see it.
Every day I read here about "superior" R350 IQ, "horrible" nV35 IQ, "piss poor" nV30 AA, "far superior" ATI AF.
I've seen the differences first hand, and in game play the "horrible" nV30 IQ looked great to me. The R350 I replaced it with looks great too, but it's not a difference like running the game with software vs OpenGL. It's little tiny differences that don't really detract from the game experience at all, but you'd think nVidia was owned by Osama bin Laden given the hatred people have for them.

I don't doubt HL2 will look better on ATI. If I'm Valve, and ATI has pumped millions of dollars into my bank account and prepurchased 1000s of games, I'd say drag my bloated butt up on stage and say the game runs better on ATI too. I might even code it to run better on ATI.

Does anyone think it was a coincidence Giants ran better on nVidia?

 

What about Giants?
I actually just installed it again.

GM

 

[Brackus]

yeah, and how od you think it will be on the xbox, i am kinda worried about that and doom3 for the xbox, halflife is pure pc... but maybe xbox for doom3 as well, think thatll work well?

 

[Alkali]

Don't worry one day we will all have ATi Radeon 9999's

 

[Rogodin2]

I can't recomend nvidia to anyone based simply on the catagorical imperitive.

If all companies were run the way nvidia was run then law of supply and demand would be invalid.

I've run my brothers 5900nonU on my system with a fresh reformat on xp and the difference in IQ was glaring.

More jaggies with the 5900 (4xAA on both cards, other was a 9800PRO128mb)
AF was worse (runways and hallways in FB, SC, RVS, UT2003 blurrier)on the 5900.

Games that ran signifacantly slower on the 5900 (I use 4xAA and 8xAF all the time) with a res of 1280x960@32bit (sometimes reverting to 1024x768 for specific games)

Rallysport challenge
Splinter Cell
Ghost Recon
Ground Control
Nascar 2003
Homeworld 2 demo

Rogo

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: Rogodin2
I can't recomend nvidia to anyone based simply on the catagorical imperitive.

Rogo

You might want to check your spelling, I think you meant to type this: categorical imperative. If you're going to use big important sounding words try to spell them correctly.

 

[Corporate Thug]

looks like u understand what he is saying so why the need for a spelling nazi

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: shady06
looks like u understand what he is saying so why the need for a spelling nazi

I'm not normally a spelling nazi but his "higher than thou" attitude made it a categorical imperative that I check his spelling for him.

 

[Rogodin2]

Thanks for correcting the "a" megatomic-must have taken a quick google search

Might want to learn what the meaning is and where it comes from.

I'll help you out, it's from Kant and it is the cornerstone of his work on ethics.

"Act only on that maxim that can be willed as a universal law."

I don't type these with a care for misspellings in these forums-it's for fun.

Rogo

 

[Rogodin2]

I'm not posting in a pedantic manner-I am posting the way I write.

If "Big Words" make you feel small then you should study or re-evaluate your world view-maybe try to "bracket" your experience with forum posters and find the truth.

rogo

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: Brackus
Okay,

Anyway, I just wanna know if I can run this game PLAYABLY with most cool settings at 800x600 since it seems like 1024x768 is outta the question... If the game looks sick, and is actually a cool game, then hey, my ti4200 will have earned what I hoped it would since I have owned it for over a year...

Here's my one line answer: wait for the game to be released, because nobody here really knows better than another how it will really run, and any "how will it run on my rig" question is just begging for a long debate.

Here's my extended answer: I don't want to be crass, but I will anyways. Your smug, sarcastic post is contradictory and you fall short of making yourself look brilliant. As a matter of fact, this is nothing short of spam-bait.

You bitch and moan about not having a 9800, making reference to many of the silly arguments going on here at AT and ask for performance on your 1200 Athlon with a GeForce 4. How the hell should we know? We're all a bunch of argumentative dorks (myself included) who piss and moan about video card performance all day, about a game that has not been released yet. And you want to know how it will run on your machine with "most cool effects" on. How subjective is this question? How many effects is this, exactly? With so few benchmarks out there (and most run on uber-machines that are not comparable to anything but absoloute top of the line), how do any of us know how well this game will run?

Here's some more responses (pick the one you like the best, since nobody except Valve beta testers know how this game really runs):
-it will run AMAZINGLY SMOOTH
-it will be fast, crank up the effects
-it will run ok
-it will run a bit slowly
-it will run like ass

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: Rogodin2
Thanks for correcting the "a" megatomic-must have taken a quick google search

No, a college education taught me to spell correctly.

Originally posted by: Rogodin2
I'm not posting in a pedantic manner-I am posting the way I write.

If "Big Words" make you feel small then you should study or re-evaluate your world view-maybe try to "bracket" your experience with forum posters and find the truth.

rogo

Right... You have no idea what you're talking about. But this is all off-topic, including my original post. So, back on-topic it is! Yay for HL2.

 

[sodcha0s]

Wow, I learned how to spell correctly in grammar school...

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: sodcha0s
Wow, I learned how to spell correctly in grammar school...

Now just imagine what'd you'd have learned if you'd gone further with your education! :beer:

 

[sodcha0s]

:beer: is what I learned in high school...