Oh my DEAR LORD! Im gonna cry....

aphex

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I just downloaded Foobar2000 and turned on Kernel Streaming (not sure if that has much effect on non-digital speakers though).... Paired with my new M-Audio Revolution and Klipsch v2-400's....

Absolutely freakin AMAZING!

I didnt think the vocal clarity and seperation would be this apparent but holy SHITE!

If you have any Klipschmonsters and you LOVE your music, GET THIS CARD! :D :D :D
 

aphex

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Originally posted by: edro13
Will my ~1995 Altec Lansing mono speakers do it? :)

haha, not so sure bout that one ;)
 

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Originally posted by: aphex
I just downloaded Foobar2000 and turned on Kernal Streaming (not sure if that has much effect on non-digital speakers though).... Paired with my new M-Audio Revolution and Klipsch v2-400's....

Absolutely freakin AMAZING!

I didnt think the vocal clarity and seperation would be this apparent but holy SHITE!

If you have any Klipschmonsters and you LOVE your music, GET THIS CARD! :D :D :D

I've been pounding the podium about foobar's greatness for months. Glad some of you are catching on. And kernel streaming will improve your sound regardless of analog/digital hookups. Actually you should probably be using the analog output with the M-Audio card regardless of speakers.
 

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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
What is Foobar2000 and Kernal Streaming?

foobar is an audio player designed by the guy who writes sll the plugins for Winamp. Kernal streaming is an output mode that is superior to wave out or directsound in that it bypasses Windows awful kmixer.

Link
 

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WHAT is kernel streaming?

Kernel Streaming (KS) is a broad term for the services that support kernel-mode processing of streamed data. KS enables efficient real-time streaming for multimedia devices such as sound cards and TV tuner cards. The Microsoft kernel streaming model is used in Microsoft® Windows® 2000 and later operating systems, and in Windows Me.

http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/tech/stream/csa1.asp

WHY do I need kernel streaming?

Kernel streaming is one method of avoiding the MS Windows kmixer which has the unfortune "feature" of resampling all sound. The resampling introduces errors that most people believe are audible. The resampling introduces the most errors when it results in changing the output rate from its native input rate. This is the case when the native audio source is at a higher rate than 48khz and is resampled down to 48khz or 44.1khz CD/MP3 music is resampled to 48khz to match a sound card device or driver that cannot support 44.1khz playback. ASIO is also a driver model that allows one to bypass the kmixer (among other features). Playback of DTS CD's or DD or DTS encoded wav files require that the bit stream be passed without resampling or "bit perfect" for proper playback by a DTS/DD decoder.

HOW do I use kernel streaming?

You need a sound card with a driver that supports it (the REVO!), a soundcard that supports multiple sampling rates (44.1 and 48khz the most common), an application that supports it and windows 2000, XP or ME. Currently, the foobar2000 player and winamp 2.x (NOT winamp 3.x) with the out_ks.dll kernel streaming plugin supports it.
 

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Also if you have a 24bit/96kHz card foobar's software resampler will output to this depth/freq and bypass the substandard hardware resampling on most cards. This does NOT apply to an Audigy 1, whose 24/96 claims are lies.
 

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Wow, that sounds awesome. Is there a list of cards that support kernal streaming (if not, can the SB Live! do it)? And where would i get the drivers (or is it included with Foobar)?
 

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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: aphex
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile What is the "M-Audio Revolution?"
A Beautiful Sound Card :D
So only the M-Audio supports this? Live! and Santa Cruz doesn't?

Well, I just tried it on my SB Live! and it works, so give it a try.