Oh Come on Russia its getting too obvious

[Fanatical Meat]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ia-wants-monitors-in-us/ar-AAjc4xJ?li=BBnbcA1

In an apparent move to embarrass the United States over Donald Trump's claims of a "rigged" presidential election, Russia sought to send monitors to U.S. polling stations for the Nov. 8 vote, Russian media revealed Thursday.

The bid was sharply rebuffed by the State Department, and one state election official threatened criminal action if Russian monitors showed up, according to state-controlled Izvestia daily and broadcaster RT.

 

[agent00f]

You gotta admit it's pretty comically ironic though that some foreign power is trying to influence our elections. At this point they're just mocking us.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

You gotta admit it's pretty comically ironic though that some foreign power is trying to influence our elections. At this point they're just mocking us.

Sadly I have to agree

 

[Zorba]

Look at the dates of the letters from the various states, apparently these requests were made a couple of months ago, before Trumps current rigging talk. To me that makes it much more interesting.

 

[Sonikku]

You gotta admit it's pretty comically ironic though that some foreign power is trying to influence our elections. At this point they're just mocking us.

I think they probably try to influence a lot of things, chiefly through the passage of misinformation. Modern day Russia has likely mastered social media and the internet to the point of being a more effective propaganda machine than Nazi Germany ever was.

 

[glenn1]

Look at the dates of the letters from the various states, apparently these requests were made a couple of months ago, before Trumps current rigging talk. To me that makes it much more interesting.

Russia pretty much offers to send "monitors" for every U.S. presidential election and is rebuffed each time, this isn't news or unique to Trump running or any of the supposed shenanigans with "rigged" elections.

 

[Jaskalas]

Are we afraid those monitors would be agents used to tamper with election results?

 

[glenn1]

Are we afraid those monitors would be agents used to tamper with election results?

Probably not since we already have international election observers coming. There's nothing inherently wrong with Russian observers but it obviously has PR overtones that someone from say Costa Rica does not.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...b0646e-8666-11e6-ac72-a29979381495_story.html

 

[fskimospy]

Are we afraid those monitors would be agents used to tamper with election results?

Maybe you can tell me what value would be brought to the US by having a hostile power that has already deliberately tried to influence our election monitor that same election? This is doubly true considering that Putin's regime has been actually rigging the elections in Russia for some time now. I mean at this point how would Russia even know what a free and fair election looked like?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Are we afraid those monitors would be agents used to tamper with election results?

No they're not needed and we don't need "observers" with a different agenda than free elections stirring shit up.

 

[agent00f]

No they're not needed and we don't need "observers" with a different agenda than free elections stirring shit up.

Are you telling me we don't need Trump fans monitoring elections in "certain areas", you know what I'm talking about.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Are you telling me we don't need Trump fans monitoring elections in "certain areas", you know what I'm talking about.

Well they're just looking for "Riggers" in those areas.
How have we devolved so much since the internet became common.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Are you telling me we don't need Trump fans monitoring elections in "certain areas", you know what I'm talking about.

Why not? It's not like the Trump campaign are doing any training or education on the difference from observation and intimidation so they can easily get thousands without effort. What can go wrong with a bunch of zealots showing up to monitor?

 

[JSt0rm]

The gop is in the pocket of the communist Russian oligarchy. This is the world we live in and its wonderful.

 

[momeNt]

Considering the US election is extremely important to the global political climate. Having some oversight, not saying Russian oversight, but possibly UN oversight, should probably be welcomed. Being a global player means that we owe not just our country, but the world, a fair election.

 

[JSt0rm]

Considering the US election is extremely important to the global political climate. Having some oversight, not saying Russian oversight, but possibly UN oversight, should probably be welcomed. Being a global player means that we owe not just our country, but the world, a fair election.

and you dont think we have fair elections?

 

[sdifox]

Ask Putin if he is sending the people that eliminated his detractors.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Considering the US election is extremely important to the global political climate. Having some oversight, not saying Russian oversight, but possibly UN oversight, should probably be welcomed. Being a global player means that we owe not just our country, but the world, a fair election.

Are you insane? Your proposal sounds fair but in the real world the observers aren't needed and we'll get observers from NK. Just like how Iran once headed the UN Human Rights Commission.

 

[momeNt]

and you dont think we have fair elections?

I don't have the resources that the UN has in confirming the fairness of the elections. For me to say one way or the other, would require an enormous amount of faith.

I think maybe just instituting maybe election audits maybe every 4 cycles? Wouldn't hurt anything.

By asking that question, would you think it would be better if maybe everybody EXCEPT the US has UN election oversight? Because we should believe we have fair elections?

 

[PokerGuy]

Considering the US election is extremely important to the global political climate. Having some oversight, not saying Russian oversight, but possibly UN oversight, should probably be welcomed. Being a global player means that we owe not just our country, but the world, a fair election.

Uh, no. We don't "owe" the world squat. We run our elections the way we see fit, if they don't like it, tough.

 

[momeNt]

Are you insane? Your proposal sounds fair but in the real world the observers aren't needed and we'll get observers from NK. Just like how Iran once headed the UN Human Rights Commission.

Are you insane good sir?! I think an observer group would be comprised of MULTIPLE nations. So even if an NK observer was in there, the findings would be adjusted for any anti-US bias.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Are you insane good sir?! I think an observer group would be comprised of MULTIPLE nations. So even if an NK observer was in there, the findings would be adjusted for any anti-US bias.

Haha keep thinking that.
Here's what would happen even in your rosy scenario.
NK, Russian, Iranian, Syrian, Chinese and a few other oppressive places would find thousands of infractions and that would be all they talk about for 4 years then rise and repeat.

 

[momeNt]

Uh, no. We don't "owe" the world squat. We run our elections the way we see fit, if they don't like it, tough.

What level of UN approvals do you believe are required for the USA to conduct its policy? Considering our policy has global implications I think this this is a fair approach.

 

[tweaker2]

I'd just LOVE to have Russian monitors at our elections IF and ONLY IF we are allowed to scrupulously do the same to theirs.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Uh, no. We don't "owe" the world squat. We run our elections the way we see fit, if they don't like it, tough.

Its not often I agree with Poker Guy.
Simple and well said Sir.