Ogg Vorbis

[swayinOtis]

I was looking at an Ogg Vorbis website after I seeing it mentioned here a few times. The website said that it would eventually replace MP3 by popular demand, and that MP3 will go the way of the dinosaurs.

Is that just hype or what? Many apps can rip .ogg files, and Win Amp has an Ogg plugin for playback, so why hasn't Ogg taken off yet?

And is it really better than MP3?

Thanks, and don't yell at me.

 

[glen]

Will it play in my car cd-mp3 player?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Its not finished yet.

 

[MrBond]

It might be better, but it's going to take a whole lot of work for Joe Consumer to switch to OGG. It's like HDTV. Sure, its better, but look what it takes to make everyone switch over to it. Regular MP3's are too much of a fixture to stop their progress now.

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< It might be better, but it's going to take a whole lot of work for Joe Consumer to switch to OGG. It's like HDTV. Sure, its better, but look what it takes to make everyone switch over to it. Regular MP3's are too much of a fixture to stop their progress now. >>



But HDTVs are expensive. Just like MP3. Ogg Vorbis is Open Sourced and free of any stupid licensing issues.

 

[Martin]

<< But HDTVs are expensive. Just like MP3. Ogg Vorbis is Open Sourced and free of any stupid licensing issues. >>




True, but MP3s aren't really bothered by licensing issues now. I mean, when was the last time you had trouble ripping a CD and playing it back? You can also take them to mp3 player, something you can't do with Ogg (although a few players have firmware, no company has made it possible for their player to play ogg AFAIK).

Point is, as long as mp3s are free and umbiguious, ogg will never take off.

 

[n0cmonkey]

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<< But HDTVs are expensive. Just like MP3. Ogg Vorbis is Open Sourced and free of any stupid licensing issues. >>




True, but MP3s aren't really bothered by licensing issues now. I mean, when was the last time you had trouble ripping a CD and playing it back? You can also take them to mp3 player, something you can't do with Ogg (although a few players have firmware, no company has made it possible for their player to play ogg AFAIK).

Point is, as long as mp3s are free and umbiguious, ogg will never take off. >>



Many of the non-free encoders pay licensing fees (as well as players I believe). When ogg is at a 1.0 release we may see more from it. Until then I dont see a point in trying to push it.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

mp3 is ubiquitous.

 

[n0cmonkey]

<< mp3 is ubiquitous. >>



It is also hindered by patents.

 

[swayinOtis]

I have been playing around with it and CDex. At the default settings it ripped at close to 160kbps and the filesize was 5.5 MB. Some of the sample .ogg files I listened to on the net were much lower bitrate so I wasn't sure if the bitrate should be higher or lower. I lowered the bitrate to about 64kbs. The filesize was 2.1 MB. I ripped the same file using LAME @224kps CBR. The filesize was 7.5 MB. The higher bitrate obviously sounded much better than the lower bitrate file.

I'm not sure if the .ogg files sound better than the .mp3 files. I haven't listened to it enough, yet.