Offshore Oil Drilling Ban Will Be Restored ?By Any Means Necessary,? Democratic Congressman Says

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(CNSNews.com) - The ban on offshore oil drilling that expired last September will be restored by ?any means necessary,? Rep. Jay Inslee (D-Wash.), who serves on both the House Committee on Natural Resources and the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, told CNSNews.com on Friday.

Inslee, who participated in a conference entitled "Planning for a Secure Energy Future? sponsored by the Washington Post, also recommended a ban on future drilling in the arctic, where he says there is a ?gold rush? for oil uncovered by melting ice caps.

But Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.), who serves on the House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming and also attended the conference, told CNSNews.com that offshore oil drilling should provide an integral part of American energy and recommended the Interior Department begin distributing offshore oil drilling leases.

Back in June, President George W. Bush lifted an 18-year-old executive order banning new offshore drilling that had been put in place by his father, President George H.W. Bush, and extended by President Bill Clinton.

At the end of September 2008, Congress ? then in the midst of crafting a $700-billion financial bailout and facing nationwide pressure to lower gas prices and remove the ban ? allowed a 26-year-old moratorium of offshore oil drilling that had been annually attached to the Interior Department funding bill, to expire.

Since then, the Bureau of Land Management has allowed bidding on leases for oil exploration. But some Democratic members of congress have indicated they would like to see the ban restored.

The moratorium on offshore oil drilling ?will be reinstated,? Inslee told CNSNews.com, but he did not specify whether he meant the executive branch moratorium or the one from the Interior Department.

?One way or the other, it will be reinstated,? said Inslee. ?One way or the other, by any means necessary.

?We are off the Pacific coast, and there would be a civil war,? said Inslee. ?There would be something like a secessionist movement if there was a serious attempt to [permanently] remove the moratorium.?

But Walden, whose state is also on the Pacific coast, told CNSNews.com that offshore oil drilling should contribute an important part of the country?s energy supply while greener technologies are being developed.

?Yes,? the Interior Department should begin distributing leases for offshore oil and gas exploration, Walden told CNSNews.com.

?We have to have natural gas,? he said. ?We have to have U.S. oil production. There may be as much as 75 percent of our proven reserves that are on federal lands or in the ocean combined. It?s a huge opportunity for this country to become energy independent.?

Walden added that he thinks the process of offshore oil drilling could also provide an excellent stimulus to the U.S. economy.

?This is the timeline, when the economy is down, that we should be doing exploration,? said Walden. ?Now is the time we should invest. There is a huge investment you must make to go out and do all the environmental work to make sure this is a good area for drilling.?

?I think you have to have the whole mix as we work towards less carbon and less fossil fuel, but we are not going to get there overnight, so in between I don?t want to go back to $5 gas and diesel,? said Walden.

Inslee also said the federal government should consider a new ban on drilling in Arctic regions of the world.

?When we talk about drilling, the new thing we have to think about is the Arctic,? said Inslee. ?There is a dangerous irony occurring. We are drilling, burning oil, sending CO2 up into the atmosphere, creating global warming ? and it?s melting the Arctic making it possible for people to drill.?

?Now there is this gold rush to start punching oil wells in a place we just desecrated because of global warming,? said Inslee. ?That?s one place we have to get a new moratorium where there hasn?t been one before, because there has always been ice there before.?



Not only is his policy radical, foolish, and increasing the deficit, he's willing to go through with his policy with radical means.

This would be a real stimulus package that would create jobs and bring in tax revenue. Of course, it makes so much sense the lefties opposite it.
 

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Screw a domestic supply. I would rather fund radical leftist countries in South America, and radical Islamic countries in the ME/North Africa.
 

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Screw a domestic supply. I would rather fund radical leftist countries in South America, and radical Islamic countries in the ME/North Africa.

Yep, and screw the budget deficit. I'd rather leave a trillion dollars in the ground.
 

CrackRabbit

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Normally I wouldn't agree with winnar, but that guy from Washington is a moron. Civil war... hahahahhaha.
:thumbsup: to the Oregon rep with a level head.
 

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No matter what side of the aisle you are on, we need oil. Oil is not going anywhere. The race for fossil fuel reserves is already on. If it takes ~10 years to explore/drill/bring to market an oil field, we need to start now.

We dont want to be stuck holding our dick when the world oil supply dwindles and hits $300+/bl (paging Dave).

Alternative energy is a great thought, but we have to be prepared for an extended reliance on fossil fuels as well. Anything else is irresponsible.

If some guy/corp/government finally manages to come up with a way to not use FF, then great, we can leave the oil in the ground. Until then, get your head out of the sand.
 

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Thank god to our rep here from oregon who isn't such a moron lol. I normally never agree with winnar in a thread but no kidding, no shit, all this domestic resources and they want to BAN us from using them? environmental impact? Wtf... sure, lets get our oil from countries with no environmental oversight vs. getting it here where we'll have some!
 

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No one from Washington would revolt or secede. They'd just take time off from their "jobs" to protest downtown. That's all they ever do. There are way too many goddamn hippies in this state.
 

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Screw a domestic supply. I would rather fund radical leftist countries in South America, and radical Islamic countries in the ME/North Africa.

You sir may be a Democrat!

Also dont forget endless deployment of our military to ensure we get those supplies from despot regimes.
 

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Screw a domestic supply. I would rather fund radical leftist countries in South America, and radical Islamic countries in the ME/North Africa.

You don't understand how oil works.

Any project that is started now is at least 7 years from producing any oil and another 10 years from being maximally drained. On top of that, ANWR is projected to only supply ~500,000 barrels of oil a day. In contrast, we import more than 10 million barrels of oil a day. The US produces ~8 million barrels of oil a day already, we used to be the #1 producer in the world in the 60s, with almost 12 million barrels of oil a day, and even then, we used to import ~3 million barrels a day.

I agree we should be drilling, but there's no way the US can independent from other oil producing countries.
 

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Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Screw a domestic supply. I would rather fund radical leftist countries in South America, and radical Islamic countries in the ME/North Africa.

You don't understand how oil works.

Any project that is started now is at least 7 years from producing any oil and another 10 years from being maximally drained. On top of that, ANWR is projected to only supply ~500,000 barrels of oil a day. In contrast, we import more than 10 million barrels of oil a day. The US produces ~8 million barrels of oil a day already, we used to be the #1 producer in the world in the 60s, with almost 12 million barrels of oil a day, and even then, we used to import ~3 million barrels a day.

I agree we should be drilling, but there's no way the US can independent from other oil producing countries.

So why bother develop anything because it takes too long or will produce to little. That is just nonsense.
 

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I know that Obama wants to emulate Lincoln but this is going too far.
 

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
If it takes ~10 years to explore/drill/bring to market an oil field, we need to start now.


Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot


You don't understand how oil works.

Any project that is started now is at least 7 years from producing any oil and another 10 years from being maximally drained...*snip*


:confused:



I do know how oil works. I am not calling for 100% independance. I am talking about having enough to keep essentials moving if things really do get bad. I know we have our Strategic Reserve, but that is to fuel tanks and planes and supply them incase we go to war and get cut off.

I only have a problem funding a couple of the top 15 oil import countries. The Saudis are friendly right now (and in fact, are a big reason that OPEC isnt cutting production even more), but you cant count on that forever.


(Barrels Per Day in Thousands in 12-08)

CANADA 2,033
SAUDI ARABIA 1,394
MEXICO 1,126
VENEZUELA 1,028
NIGERIA 869
ANGOLA 553
IRAQ 519
ECUADOR 252
ALGERIA 235
BRAZIL 208
KUWAIT 194
COLOMBIA 148
CHAD 105
CONGO (BRAZZAVILLE) 95
AZERBAIJAN 78


The "10 year" argument is bullshit. The enviro-nuts were saying that 10 years ago. We could have had that oil on the market right now.

There is no telling how much oil can be found off-shore and in ANWAR. People only make educated guesses. There is only 1 way to find out for sure.

Collapsing HugeEgo's government would be a nice side-effect, seeing as how it is already hurting so bad from low oil prices that he is grasping at straws.
 

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Bush 1 signed the offshore ban into existence, remember?

In 10 years, if we haven't drastically lowered our consumption of oil for transportation methods, then shame on us all
 

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Originally posted by: NeoV
Bush 1 signed the offshore ban into existence, remember?

In 10 years, if we haven't drastically lowered our consumption of oil for transportation methods, then shame on us all

OK, we are all shamed at that point. Then what?
 

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: NeoV
Bush 1 signed the offshore ban into existence, remember?

In 10 years, if we haven't drastically lowered our consumption of oil for transportation methods, then shame on us all

OK, we are all shamed at that point. Then what?

Then we blame Bush.. This is patently absurd. We've heard the argument that it will take 5-10 years to develop domestic oil for the past 30 years. If we would have done it THEN, we wouldn't be talking about it NOW.

The sad thing is - This is the position of the majority, mainstream democrat party.. The assholes are only concerned about what they can tax, and how they can put us another trillion or 10 into debt.
 

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: NeoV
Bush 1 signed the offshore ban into existence, remember?

In 10 years, if we haven't drastically lowered our consumption of oil for transportation methods, then shame on us all

OK, we are all shamed at that point. Then what?

You know, maybe we should get rid of all this oil now, before Obama does his Dumbledore routine and gets us off oil in 3 years.
 

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Screw a domestic supply. I would rather fund radical leftist countries in South America, and radical Islamic countries in the ME/North Africa.

You don't understand how oil works.

Any project that is started now is at least 7 years from producing any oil and another 10 years from being maximally drained. On top of that, ANWR is projected to only supply ~500,000 barrels of oil a day. In contrast, we import more than 10 million barrels of oil a day. The US produces ~8 million barrels of oil a day already, we used to be the #1 producer in the world in the 60s, with almost 12 million barrels of oil a day, and even then, we used to import ~3 million barrels a day.

I agree we should be drilling, but there's no way the US can independent from other oil producing countries.

So why bother develop anything because it takes too long or will produce to little. That is just nonsense.


Reading comprehension for the loss. This is why you are a joke Winnar. Where in my post does it say I'm against drilling? In fact, you can see it right there, last sentence "I agree we should be drilling".

There is no telling how much oil can be found off-shore and in ANWAR. People only make educated guesses. There is only 1 way to find out for sure.

Actually, geologists do have a very good idea of how much oil is in ANWR. It's only a few billion barrels, spread out over 50 or so years. It'll only affect the price of oil by a few quarters. We should absolutely tap this resource, but US production has been declining about 4% every year, while US demand has crept up about 2-2.5% every year, barring this recession. That's basically 6% more we have to import every year to offset the differences. We are more dependent on foreign oil than ever before.

Have no illusions, we are beholden to foreign interests with respect to energy. ANWR will not alleviate much nor will any other domestic oil field.
 

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Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Screw a domestic supply. I would rather fund radical leftist countries in South America, and radical Islamic countries in the ME/North Africa.

You don't understand how oil works.

Any project that is started now is at least 7 years from producing any oil and another 10 years from being maximally drained. On top of that, ANWR is projected to only supply ~500,000 barrels of oil a day. In contrast, we import more than 10 million barrels of oil a day. The US produces ~8 million barrels of oil a day already, we used to be the #1 producer in the world in the 60s, with almost 12 million barrels of oil a day, and even then, we used to import ~3 million barrels a day.

I agree we should be drilling, but there's no way the US can independent from other oil producing countries.

So why bother develop anything because it takes too long or will produce to little. That is just nonsense.


Reading comprehension for the loss. This is why you are a joke Winnar. Where in my post does it say I'm against drilling? In fact, you can see it right there, last sentence "I agree we should be drilling".

I aint winner, so that is worth a pretty good laugh.

But you have basically said it is not worth while since there is not much there.


There is no telling how much oil can be found off-shore and in ANWAR. People only make educated guesses. There is only 1 way to find out for sure.


Actually, geologists do have a very good idea of how much oil is in ANWR. It's only a few billion barrels, spread out over 50 or so years. It'll only affect the price of oil by a few quarters. We should absolutely tap this resource, but US production has been declining about 4% every year, while US demand has crept up about 2-2.5% every year, barring this recession. That's basically 6% more we have to import every year to offset the differences. We are more dependent on foreign oil than ever before.

Have no illusions, we are beholden to foreign interests with respect to energy. ANWR will not alleviate much nor will any other domestic oil field.

Actually with high prices US oil production climbed slightly last year. With production in anwr and OCS it would not be unreasonable to see US production increase a non trivial amount.