Official Toyota FT-86 pics revealed in japan

[Soccerman06]

You can argue this all you want. Good luck.

pfft might as well not even have a freakin back seat, I dont even think a midget could fit back there.

 

[SparkyJJO]

LOL what the heck is even the point of a back seat when there is zero space for your legs and feet? And I thought the back seat of my Camaro was bad! Wow.

 

[exdeath]

Too bad a lot of people will just see.. OMG 200hp weaksauce. Although FT-86 is also much cheaper than the more powerful 350z, so no one is expecting it to be as powerful when they're shopping for the 86. It's nice to have the option of a good handling sexy sports car at that pricepoint.
Sports car is defined by the platform rather than the power. Just look at the miata .

No car has any business looking that sporty and aggressive and pretentious if it can't even dust an automatic Camry. :biggrin:

 

[NutBucket]

LOL! There's more rear leg room in a 911! I think my CR-Z has about the same rear leg room...the reason why the US spec car doesn't have a back seat! My only guess is that they're selling it as a 2+2 is for insurance purposes.

I believe that a 2 seater would, on average, be more expensive to insure than a 4 seater.

 

[Throckmorton]

No car has any business looking that sporty and aggressive and pretentious if it can't even dust an automatic Camry. :biggrin:

For once I have to agree with you. Sports cars should be faster than family sedans. Somehow they are getting left behind in the horsepower wars.

 

[Throckmorton]

LOL! There's more rear leg room in a 911! I think my CR-Z has about the same rear leg room...the reason why the US spec car doesn't have a back seat! My only guess is that they're selling it as a 2+2 is for insurance purposes.

I believe that a 2 seater would, on average, be more expensive to insure than a 4 seater.

In other countries the CRZ has back seats?

 

[KentState]

I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers, a 2012 V6 mustang has a curb weight of 3750 lb and produces 305 hp (from ford's website here).
3750lb/305hp = 12.3 lb/hp.

That number is way off considering a GT500 weighs that much. From everything I saw, the V6 is around 3450lbs, a GT is 36000lbs and the GT500 is almost 3800lbs.

 

[stag3]

yea from concept excitement, to a meh scion.
needs more turbo

 

[NutBucket]

In other countries the CRZ has back seats?

Yes. I don't understand how anyone can sit back there unless the front seat occupants crumple up their legs too. I guess if everyone was like 5'8" and under it might work....

 

[Dman8777]

The back seat is so small so the ricers can rip it out and fit 2000 watts of techno-pumping power!

It may not come to the Toyota version but something like this is bound to see a turbo from Subaru sooner or later. They listen to their customers (see 2008 vs 2009 WRX). I just hope the economy doesn't kill this before they get the chance...

 

[Anubis]

LOL what the heck is even the point of a back seat when there is zero space for your legs and feet? And I thought the back seat of my Camaro was bad! Wow.

reminds me of the back seat in a 911

 

[soccerballtux]

Needs a 2GR-FTE

that's a good idea

 

[Throckmorton]

The BRZ looks better IMO. But I don't understand why the styling is almost identical... Seems like a pretty dumb move for both Toyota and Subaru.

http://jalopnik.com/5863247/subaru-brz-this-is-it

 

[Throckmorton]

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1112_2013_subaru_brz_prototype_first_drive/

According to that article, the platform was designed to allow a convertible model, and it can be stretched... a 4 door compact sport sedan would be great.

 

[Pocatello]

I like it, but there isn't much room in the back.

 

[exar333]

The back seat is so small so the ricers can rip it out and fit 2000 watts of techno-pumping power!

It may not come to the Toyota version but something like this is bound to see a turbo from Subaru sooner or later. They listen to their customers (see 2008 vs 2009 WRX). I just hope the economy doesn't kill this before they get the chance...

We will see. They have been pretty adamant this will be N/A only, and if you want turbo/more power you need to go the WRX or STi route.

200hp is pretty weak-sauce though...this will be slower than many family cars (as exdeath stated). Throw the 2.5T from Subaru in here and it would be awesome...

 

[Dman8777]

200 hp may be a life-saving measure. A cheap, RWD, 2700 lb car with the kind of torque available from Subaru's 2.5T would certainly end a few lives prematurely. Anyone else see the corvette drag-race post here the last few days?

 

[ElFenix]

Well it's the first RWD compact 2+2 since the 240sx left America. You aren't excited about that?

911 is compact and rwd and 2+2



so are the G37 and mustang

 

[MotF Bane]

911 is compact and rwd and 2+2



so are the G37 and mustang

And the Genesis coupe?

 

[ElFenix]

And the Genesis coupe?

oh how could i forget that hotness


though the new one is fuggo.

 

[exar333]

The Gas pedal is a life-saving measure. A cheap, RWD, 2700 lb car with the kind of torque available from Subaru's 2.5T would certainly end a few lives prematurely. Anyone else see the corvette drag-race post here the last few days?

Fixed that for you...

 

[Throckmorton]

Check out these leaked brochure pictures
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2131

They call it "front midship" but the centerline of the engine seems to be ahead of the front axle line... Why not place it further back?

 

[jlee]

Where do they call it front midship? I see FR.

Heh, trunk was designed to be able to fit four tires. That's fantastic. :awe:

 

[Throckmorton]

On the 2nd page shown on that forum, it says front midship

 

[jlee]

On the 2nd page shown on that forum, it says front midship

The engine is pretty much in the middle of the front axles. As far as I can see, they're not calling the car mid-engined. It says "FR" everywhere.