*** OFFICIAL *** Rose Bowl thread... Michigan vs USC

Wingznut

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I'm a huge Wolverines fan, so I will definitely be rooting for them.

But then again... I am very much anti-BCS, so a win for USC can be fun too.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
I'm a huge Wolverines fan, so I will definitely be rooting for them.

But then again... I am very much anti-BCS, so a win for USC can be fun too.

I don't like the BCS, and USC doesn't deserve #1 at all. It's a slap in the face to Oklahoma and LSU.

Here's how I'd do it:

#1-Oklahoma
#2-LSU
#3-Michigan
#4-USC
 

blstriker

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USC has dominated its competition this whole year (except for that cal debacle). The only reason other teams even put up points on the board is because Carroll pulls the starters at the beginning of the 4th quarter. ;)

I'm pulling hard for USC to beat a very talented Mich team. USC simply has too many weapons on both offense (Williams) and defense (Wild Bunch II).

Fight On!

 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: blstriker
USC has dominated its competition this whole year (except for that cal debacle).
Sure, they played a whole, what, 1 top 20 team?

 

sciencewhiz

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Sure, they played a whole, what, 1 top 20 team?

Depends on who's top 20. They dominated Both WSU and Auburn. And of course, WSU beat Texas.

Right now, USC's opponents are 5-1 in bowl games. Oklahoma's opponets are 2-4 and LSU's opponents are 2-0. Michigan's opponents are 1-4.
 

TC2181

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Go MEEEEEEEEESHAGAN! I really want this whole BCS controversy to end right now. I'm tired of hearing people who know nothing about college football talk about it, i'm tired of hearing of sportswriters whipping a dead horse, and i'm tired of USC fans crying about it.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: Wingznut
I'm a huge Wolverines fan, so I will definitely be rooting for them.

But then again... I am very much anti-BCS, so a win for USC can be fun too.

I don't like the BCS, and USC doesn't deserve #1 at all. It's a slap in the face to Oklahoma and LSU.

Here's how I'd do it:

#1-Oklahoma
#2-LSU
#3-Michigan
#4-USC

doesn't Michigan have 2 losses vs USC's 1?? no way you can put Michigan ahead of USC no matter what the SOS was.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
doesn't Michigan have 2 losses vs USC's 1?? no way you can put Michigan ahead of USC no matter what the SOS was.
Michigan or USC can be 3/4, I could see it going either way. We'll see here in a couple of hours.

 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
doesn't Michigan have 2 losses vs USC's 1?? no way you can put Michigan ahead of USC no matter what the SOS was.
Michigan or USC can be 3/4, I could see it going either way. We'll see here in a couple of hours.

:)
 

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Big 10 REPRESENT!

Make up for the losses by Mich State and Wisconsin. We're (Iowa) doing our parts right now against Florida. Need to prove to people that the big 10 ain't some Mickey Mouse conference like everyone plays it off as.
 

mpitts

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
I'm a huge Wolverines fan, so I will definitely be rooting for them.

But then again... I am very much anti-BCS, so a win for USC can be fun too.

My thoughts exactly. I am a huge Michigan fan. I hate to see them lose. But if it means exposing the flawed system that the BCS is, then that is fine.

That being said, GO BLUE!!!
 

mpitts

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Originally posted by: blstriker
USC has dominated its competition this whole year (except for that cal debacle). The only reason other teams even put up points on the board is because Carroll pulls the starters at the beginning of the 4th quarter. ;)

I'm pulling hard for USC to beat a very talented Mich team. USC simply has too many weapons on both offense (Williams) and defense (Wild Bunch II).

Fight On!

Michigan has the 5th-best pass defense in the nation and a trio of wideouts as good as any in the country.
 

MikeMike

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michigan is going to walk over USC like it was a small fly in their way.

USC has some weapons, but its not gunna stop michigan, while michigan has quite the defense.

MIKE
 

EvilYoda

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w're going to fvcking trash USC........much like I am right now. and this is just left over from yesterday :)
 

NeoV

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this should be an excellent matchup....

I hate Michigan, but I have to give them credit, this is a very talented team...I think they use too much 'gimmick' stuff on D though...we'll see how that plays out...


USC, on the other hand, is also very talented....they have a number of NFL prospects on both sides of the ball....everyone talks about their offense, but their D line is very impressive.....

Please don't use the "they only played 1 top 20 team" crap - Wash St is very good, just ask Texas, and Cal, though 8-6 isn't a great record, can play as well, just ask V.Tech - and note that Cal's QB is a future 1st round NFL pick...Auburn is a solid, physical team, and USC shut them out....

bottom line? It's impossible to say with 100% certainty who should be ranked ahead of whom...it just doesn't work without a playoff...

I will say this though - any system that ranks Oklahoma ahead of USC or LSU as of right now, doesn't work right - you can't lose your biggest game of the year 35-14 and be the best team in the country. If you ask me, Oklahoma played the weakest schedule of the top 3 teams, but the strength of schedule ratings are skewed because North Texas, who won 9 games playing no-body's, makes their schedule look tougher than it really was.

If USC loses, then the LSU/Oklahoma winner is the champ, no questions asked.....but if USC wins (I think they will win a close game today), then there is no solution other than a split national champion, and that is what the BCS was supposed to prevent....

 

Squisher

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First of all, Go Blue.

However U of M cannot have any claim to the National Championship with their early season losses.

 

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Originally posted by: Squisher
First of all, Go Blue.

However U of M cannot have any claim to the National Championship with their early season losses.

Heh. Sorry about that :eek: