Official OSU vs. UM thread: 35-21 UM; Game over, UM wins

[Mookow]

1.) Who do think will win?
2.) What do you predict the score will be?
3.) Who will score more points for OSU, their offense (not including FGs), defense, special teams, or Nugent (OSU's kicker)?

My thoughts
1.) OSU wins
2.) the score: 16-10
3.) Nugent. He is just clutch.

My hedging of the above: Rivalry games are the hardest to predict, since the players are playing with more emotion (and adrenaline) than normally is the case. If OSU's D can not make fatal mistakes (which they usually dont), and force UM's offense into making mistakes (Navarre by himself has averaged 3.5 turnovers/game vs OSU), I think OSU can get together enough points to win. Of course OSU's offense has to manage something, even if it is only not turning the ball over and staying on the field long enough to give the defensive guys some rest.

EDIT #1: Please people, dont quote a dozen posts. Take the time to remove unnecessary quotes, it makes it easier to get your point AND doesnt clutter up the screen as much. Thank you.

Regarding this thread: rather than see a lot of theads about the game tomorrow, and then the post game "haha, team X lost!" threads, I thought I'd make one ahead of time as a pregame thread, and then edit the title and body of my post to reflect the score, winner, etc as it happens. Feel free to make your own, I just prefer having one thread about any given football game, rather than 12 threads. The only exception to that, IMHO, is when something in the game happens that while not tied directly to the outcome, is significant/controversial in its own right, ie Willis McGhee (sic?) getting his knee blown out, Kellen Winslow talking about how he is a soldier at war, the Reynolds/Sorgi choking incident, etc.

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

I predict Michigan will win. Michigan destroyed Purdue and the Purdue-OSU game was close.

 

[imported_Tomato]

U OF M... GO BLUE!!!!!!!

 

[EvilYoda]

I scared a woman earlier when I was walking out of the store because she was wearing a UM sweatshirt, so I said, rather loudly, GO BLUE!

hehe.

 

[gogeeta13]

Osu will win

The key to the game for us will be to score early. We NEED to get some points before the 2nd half. The little cardiac kids act wont get by UM like they did the other teams.

But then again, we play michigan harder than we play anyone else.

 

[halik]

go blue beyotches!

...hehe coming from u of m dept of epidemiology (my work)

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
I predict Michigan will win. Michigan destroyed Purdue and the Purdue-OSU game was close.

Iowa beat Michigan, OSU beat Iowa... AC, BC comparisons just dont work in college football

 

[minendo]

UofM will crush Ohio State.

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: Dezign
U OF M... GO BLUE!!!!!!!

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: minendo
UofM will crush Ohio State.

I dont know... Trev Alberts picked UM to win

 

[dullard]

Isn't this the 3rd or 4th official OSU vs UM thread this week? Ok some others were joke threads...

I feel UM is a better team and should win. However I think OSU will win due to stupid plays by UM. OSU by 3 in the second overtime (like I've said in other posts).

For those who follow my weekly computer posts, my optimizations for the best predictor of the winner says OSU will win by 0.1 points on a neutral field. However it isn't a neutral field, so it gives UM the slight win. The optimization for the best prediction of the score difference says UM will score 2.9 more points (plus a few for a home field advantage).

I really wish OSU wins though - and wins the National Championship. Not because I like OSU, but because so many of my friends think it is impossible to win back to back championships and I want them to see that it happens frequently - nearly every decade a team does it or comes damn close.

 

[kalster]

27-10 UM

 

[edro]

Official Prediction: OSU 2, Michigan 0

 

[MikeMike]

i like edro's prediction

but its gunna be close, and ac bd ab predictions dont work like above.

im sayin 10-6. OSU-UM

by the way, how many freshman michigan football players does it take to screw in a lightbulb??

none, is a sophmore class.

MIKE

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: dullard
Isn't this the 3rd or 4th official OSU vs UM thread this week? Ok some others were joke threads...

I searched for "official" over the last ten days, none of the results were for the OSU/UM game.

Really, I think this game comes down to one basic thing: OSU's defense. If they can stuff UM's offense and make UM play "Tresselball", OSU wins. If they cant, OSU is screwed unless a lot of offensive players step forward bigtime. Remember last year, UM moved the ball a lot better than the Buckeyes, but UM couldnt move the ball once in the red zone, kicked 3 FGs, and never made a TD. OSU's offense played like cr@p, wasnt getting many first downs, etc, yet got it together enough to score two TDs and win.

 

[Mani]

Michigan 24
OSU 9 (3 FGs)

GO BLUE

The only way I see Michigan losing is one of two ways - turnovers or special teams breakdowns. OSU has a hyped up defense but noone is paying attention to the fact that Michigan's is right behind them in national rank. And the fact that a 3rd string Wisconsin back put up 130+ yards on that "legendary" run D. And the only reason Michigan's run D is behind is because we played Minnesota with the #1 rushing attack in the nation (and OSU didn't).

And there's no comparison on offense - OSU has no running game and an anemic passing game at best. Michigan has one of the most balanced offenses in the nation with arguably the best recieving corps in the country, a hot QB, one of the best O-lines in the nation, and a heisman candidate RB.

I know that OSU "finds ways to win" but I don't see it happening this time.

 

[LS20]

i pick whoever the betting line favors

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Mookow
I searched for "official" over the last ten days, none of the results were for the OSU/UM game.

So the rule is that unless the other threads say "official", then it is ok to repost? (Just giving you a hard time.)

Other OSU vs UM threads from this week:
Link 1
Link 2
Link 3
Link 4
Link 5
Plus the general football threads which have all turned into OSU vs UM threads.

 

[isildur]

Originally posted by: Mani
Michigan 24
OSU 9 (3 FGs)

GO BLUE

The only way I see Michigan losing is one of two ways - turnovers or special teams breakdowns. OSU has a hyped up defense but noone is paying attention to the fact that Michigan's is right behind them in national rank. And the fact that a 3rd string Wisconsin back put up 130+ yards on that "legendary" run D. And the only reason Michigan's run D is behind is because we played Minnesota with the #1 rushing attack in the nation (and OSU didn't).

And there's no comparison on offense - OSU has no running game and an anemic passing game at best. Michigan has one of the most balanced offenses in the nation with arguably the best recieving corps in the country, a hot QB, one of the best O-lines in the nation, and a heisman candidate RB.

I know that OSU "finds ways to win" but I don't see it happening this time.

You make a strange argument above, comparing defense to defense. Its irrelavent: UM doesn't have to have as good a D as OSU to hold us to low scoring, while OSU does have to have a high powered D to counter UM's offense. And they do.

Then you do the same thing, comparing offense to offense - again, its irrelavent. OSU's offense has been better lately, but still not "high octane" by any stretch. UM can score points, Perry can run, and Navarre can throw, but the originator here makes a good point: in games vs OSU Navarre averages 3.5 turnovers a game HIMSELF. That is why UM has lost the last two as much as anything.

For OSU to win, the D has to play as well as it has been (shut down Perry, hit Navarre) and the O has to play BETTER than it has been. If they give up a couple of early touchdowns to Navarre, its probably over. If it turns into a slug-fest, you always lean toward the better D/kicker & OSU wins.

 

[mpitts]

Michigan 27 - OSU 12

I say the OSU special teams score a touchdown and Nugent kicks 2 field goals.

It is going to be a great game, I just don't think OSU can do to Michigan what they did to a bunch of average teams. I know a lot of OSU fans will remind me about how everyone underestimated them last year against Miami, etc. This isn't last year. OSU has sucked on the road and Michigan has been awesome at home.

Watch out for Steve Breaston and Jason Avant. I am hoping OSU tries to double team Edwards, and leave Avant in single coverage. If Navarre has time (a BIG key), Avant should have a big day. Also, OSU is going to have a hard time playing the field position game with Michigan because of Breaston returning punts. The guy has returned three for TDs and had two TDs called back on punt returns this year.

GO BLUE!

 

[Metalloid]

1)Michigan
2)28-17
3)Defense might get a pick off of Navarre. Michigans defense is far too good for OSU's offense to put together a full drive on their own.

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: isildur

Originally posted by: Mani
Michigan 24
OSU 9 (3 FGs)

GO BLUE

The only way I see Michigan losing is one of two ways - turnovers or special teams breakdowns. OSU has a hyped up defense but noone is paying attention to the fact that Michigan's is right behind them in national rank. And the fact that a 3rd string Wisconsin back put up 130+ yards on that "legendary" run D. And the only reason Michigan's run D is behind is because we played Minnesota with the #1 rushing attack in the nation (and OSU didn't).

And there's no comparison on offense - OSU has no running game and an anemic passing game at best. Michigan has one of the most balanced offenses in the nation with arguably the best recieving corps in the country, a hot QB, one of the best O-lines in the nation, and a heisman candidate RB.

I know that OSU "finds ways to win" but I don't see it happening this time.

You make a strange argument above, comparing defense to defense. Its irrelavent: UM doesn't have to have as good a D as OSU to hold us to low scoring, while OSU does have to have a high powered D to counter UM's offense. And they do.

Then you do the same thing, comparing offense to offense - again, its irrelavent. OSU's offense has been better lately, but still not "high octane" by any stretch. UM can score points, Perry can run, and Navarre can throw, but the originator here makes a good point: in games vs OSU Navarre averages 3.5 turnovers a game HIMSELF. That is why UM has lost the last two as much as anything.

For OSU to win, the D has to play as well as it has been (shut down Perry, hit Navarre) and the O has to play BETTER than it has been. If they give up a couple of early touchdowns to Navarre, its probably over. If it turns into a slug-fest, you always lean toward the better D/kicker & OSU wins.

Uhm, Michigan's D is WAY better than Purdue's and OSU couldn't score a single TD on offense against them. Don't forget that UM's D is the 2nd best in the conference to OSU and that OSU does a good enough job holding themselves back on offense.

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: isildur

Originally posted by: Mani
Michigan 24
OSU 9 (3 FGs)

GO BLUE

The only way I see Michigan losing is one of two ways - turnovers or special teams breakdowns. OSU has a hyped up defense but noone is paying attention to the fact that Michigan's is right behind them in national rank. And the fact that a 3rd string Wisconsin back put up 130+ yards on that "legendary" run D. And the only reason Michigan's run D is behind is because we played Minnesota with the #1 rushing attack in the nation (and OSU didn't).

And there's no comparison on offense - OSU has no running game and an anemic passing game at best. Michigan has one of the most balanced offenses in the nation with arguably the best recieving corps in the country, a hot QB, one of the best O-lines in the nation, and a heisman candidate RB.

I know that OSU "finds ways to win" but I don't see it happening this time.

You make a strange argument above, comparing defense to defense. Its irrelavent: UM doesn't have to have as good a D as OSU to hold us to low scoring, while OSU does have to have a high powered D to counter UM's offense. And they do.

Then you do the same thing, comparing offense to offense - again, its irrelavent. OSU's offense has been better lately, but still not "high octane" by any stretch. UM can score points, Perry can run, and Navarre can throw, but the originator here makes a good point: in games vs OSU Navarre averages 3.5 turnovers a game HIMSELF. That is why UM has lost the last two as much as anything.

For OSU to win, the D has to play as well as it has been (shut down Perry, hit Navarre) and the O has to play BETTER than it has been. If they give up a couple of early touchdowns to Navarre, its probably over. If it turns into a slug-fest, you always lean toward the better D/kicker & OSU wins.

I'm comparing apples to apples. The reason I brought up both offenses is because the defenses of the two teams are very comparable. Minus the minnesota game, michigan's rush D stats are almost identical to OSU's, and M's pass D is better. Michigan plays against that D every time they practice.

If anything, saying Navarre has turned the ball over in previous matchups is irrelevant. In the first matchup, Navarre was nothing even resembling the QB he is today. And in the second matchup, he was playing on the road against a better defense than he will be tomorrow.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Mookow
I searched for "official" over the last ten days, none of the results were for the OSU/UM game.

So the rule is that unless the other threads say "official", then it is ok to repost? (Just giving you a hard time.)

Other OSU vs UM threads from this week:
Link 1
Link 2
Link 3
Link 4
Link 5
Plus the general football threads which have all turned into OSU vs UM threads.

Read the last paragraph in my original post:

Regarding this thread: rather than see a lot of theads about the game tomorrow, and then the post game "haha, team X lost!" threads, I thought I'd make one ahead of time as a pregame thread, and then edit the title and body of my post to reflect the score, winner, etc as it happens. Feel free to make your own, I just prefer having one thread about any given football game, rather than 12 threads. The only exception to that, IMHO, is when something in the game happens that while not tied directly to the outcome, is significant/controversial in its own right, ie Willis McGhee (sic?) getting his knee blown out, Kellen Winslow talking about how he is a soldier at war, the Reynolds/Sorgi choking incident, etc.

 

[kalster]

wow,

everyone is picking UM (including me) to win , i hope they dont get complacent on the big stage and really play with their full potential and give OSU a whopping (they deserve)