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Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: MetalMat
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: JujuFish
(5:57) (Shotgun) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete deep right to 19-J.McCareins. PENALTY on BAL-55-T.Suggs, Roughing the Passer, 15 yards, enforced at TEN 20 - No Play. Penalty on TEN-71-M.Roos, False Start, superseded.

If there's a false start, isn't the play supposed to be blown dead? It doesn't seem to me that the penalty on Suggs should even have happened (which didn't even look like a penalty to me).

False Start / Offsides does not stop a play. It's considered a free play. The problem is the fouls were not off-setting. They were not equal infractions.

False starts are supposed to be blown dead immediately.

Yeah roughing the passer will be called even on a false start

What I'm saying is, if the play was blown dead immediately, Suggs never would have had a chance to rough the passer, which he didn't seem to do anyway.

By rule he did rough the passer. The rule blows but it is what it is. If anyone watched the game they know the Titans were due to finally have a drive helped along by some BS penalties just like the ravens on their TD drive.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: Nitemare
lol, as I type this he gets a fluke pass off to Moss.

What a DUMBASS! You can't win by just throwing bombs to Moss and hope he catches them. Another INT!

Cassel under threw it, and Moss was doubled covered. Get it together Cassel!! I need more points!:disgust:

Moss was ahead of both of those defenders. Cassel's fault.
 

LikeLinus

Lifer
Jul 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: MetalMat
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: JujuFish
(5:57) (Shotgun) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete deep right to 19-J.McCareins. PENALTY on BAL-55-T.Suggs, Roughing the Passer, 15 yards, enforced at TEN 20 - No Play. Penalty on TEN-71-M.Roos, False Start, superseded.

If there's a false start, isn't the play supposed to be blown dead? It doesn't seem to me that the penalty on Suggs should even have happened (which didn't even look like a penalty to me).

False Start / Offsides does not stop a play. It's considered a free play. The problem is the fouls were not off-setting. They were not equal infractions.

False starts are supposed to be blown dead immediately.

Yeah roughing the passer will be called even on a false start

What I'm saying is, if the play was blown dead immediately, Suggs never would have had a chance to rough the passer, which he didn't seem to do anyway.

I dunno, It was clear he hit Kerry Collins in the head with his arm. He may have been swiping at the ball, but he hit Kerry none the less. It's a foul.
 

Gibson486

Lifer
Aug 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: Nitemare
lol, as I type this he gets a fluke pass off to Moss.

What a DUMBASS! You can't win by just throwing bombs to Moss and hope he catches them. Another INT!

Cassel under threw it, and Moss was doubled covered. Get it together Cassel!! I need more points!:disgust:

Cassel blows....we all know that. He really needs to learn how to just get rif of teh ball instead of being sacked.
 

rise

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Dec 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Baked
Originally posted by: Nitemare
lol, as I type this he gets a fluke pass off to Moss.

What a DUMBASS! You can't win by just throwing bombs to Moss and hope he catches them. Another INT!

Cassel under threw it, and Moss was doubled covered. Get it together Cassel!! I need more points!:disgust:

Cassel blows....we all know that. He really needs to learn how to just get rif of teh ball instead of being sacked.
well, obviously belichick sees something in him. i was surprised he didn't get cut after his exhibition season. he was outplayed by guiterezz and o'donnell imo.

but whatever, coach must see something.

now if maroney dould stay healthy....
 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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Down by 10 at the half, Bills D has had no success stopping Kurt Warner. 24-14 Arizona.
Here's hoping for some big halftime adjustments.
 

rise

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Dec 13, 2004
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pats, TD!!!

btw, buffalo willbe exposed at some point, hopefully today. they're not deserving of a 4-0 record.
 

Pocatello

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Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Down by 10 at the half, Bills D has had no success stopping Kurt Warner. 24-14 Arizona.
Here's hoping for some big halftime adjustments.

The Bills are good at come back, the Cards are bad at holding on.
 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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Originally posted by: rise
pats, TD!!!

btw, buffalo willbe exposed at some point, hopefully today. they're not deserving of a 4-0 record.

How are they not?
 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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Originally posted by: Pocatello
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Down by 10 at the half, Bills D has had no success stopping Kurt Warner. 24-14 Arizona.
Here's hoping for some big halftime adjustments.

The Bills are good at come back, the Cards are bad at holding on.

The comebacks have been with Trent Edwards at the helm. I don't know of Losman has it in him, and the D has been off all day.
 

rise

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Dec 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: rise
pats, TD!!!

btw, buffalo willbe exposed at some point, hopefully today. they're not deserving of a 4-0 record.

How are they not?

ummmm, they're not that good :confused:
 

rise

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Dec 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: rise
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: rise
pats, TD!!!

btw, buffalo willbe exposed at some point, hopefully today. they're not deserving of a 4-0 record.

How are they not?

ummmm, they're not that good :confused:

By what standard?
lol, the only "decent team they've beaten was jax, which was a good win. i bet the pats go 2-0 against them, and if by chance they meet in the playoffs, 3-0.
 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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Originally posted by: rise
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: rise
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: rise
pats, TD!!!

btw, buffalo willbe exposed at some point, hopefully today. they're not deserving of a 4-0 record.

How are they not?

ummmm, they're not that good :confused:

By what standard?
lol, the only "decent team they've beaten was jax, which was a good win. i bet the pats go 2-0 against them, and if by chance they meet in the playoffs, 3-0.

The Pats will be lucky to win one. Did you see that Miami game? Cassel's already thrown 2 INTs against the Niners. The Bills won't be as forgiving.
 

Gibson486

Lifer
Aug 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: rise
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: rise
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: rise
pats, TD!!!

btw, buffalo willbe exposed at some point, hopefully today. they're not deserving of a 4-0 record.

How are they not?

ummmm, they're not that good :confused:

By what standard?
lol, the only "decent team they've beaten was jax, which was a good win. i bet the pats go 2-0 against them, and if by chance they meet in the playoffs, 3-0.

The Pats will be lucky to win one. Did you see that Miami game? Cassel's already thrown 2 INTs against the Niners. The Bills won't be as forgiving.


Uh....the pats are actually a decent team. The Bills are decent, but not a decent as the pats.

 

rise

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Dec 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: rise
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: rise
Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: rise
pats, TD!!!

btw, buffalo willbe exposed at some point, hopefully today. they're not deserving of a 4-0 record.
How are they not?
ummmm, they're not that good :confused:
By what standard?
lol, the only "decent team they've beaten was jax, which was a good win. i bet the pats go 2-0 against them, and if by chance they meet in the playoffs, 3-0.

The Pats will be lucky to win one. Did you see that Miami game? Cassel's already thrown 2 INTs against the Niners. The Bills won't be as forgiving.

pats are winning, as are the cardinals :laugh:
 

rise

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Dec 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: JujuFish
Originally posted by: rise
pats are winning, as are the cardinals :laugh:
Leave it to a Pats fan to fail at reading comprehension. :laugh:

hmmm, bills getting smoked by the cards. not sure what i didn't read right.

and the pats tack on another 7. weird.
 

rise

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Dec 13, 2004
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wth, the cards doubling up the vaunted bills :confused:

yeah, they're a force alright.
 

rise

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Originally posted by: JujuFish
The Pats will be lucky to win one. Did you see that Miami game? Cassel's already thrown 2 INTs against the Niners. The Bills won't be as forgiving.
so what's the wager?

 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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Originally posted by: rise
Originally posted by: JujuFish
The Pats will be lucky to win one. Did you see that Miami game? Cassel's already thrown 2 INTs against the Niners. The Bills won't be as forgiving.
so what's the wager?

Self imposed ban on AT for the rest of football season? 38-13 :laugh: