OFFICIAL NFL week 16 thread

[IndyColtsFan]

Bwahahahaha....

I wouldn't count on it. The Jags are pretty piss poor too. :awe:

I wouldn't count on it either and if the Colts do beat the Jags, they drop to the 3rd pick.

Oh well, at least Manning is throwing again and has looked decent.

 

[ElFenix]

Bwahahahaha....



I wouldn't count on it. The Jags are pretty piss poor too. :awe:

they could just decide they don't want luck in their division

 

[SSSnail]

I'd LAUGH MY ASS OFF if the Jags throw the next week's game to fuck the stupid Colts over for being a bunch of stupids.

As evident, Colts consist of a bunch of aging stars, and that nobody on that stupid team has the foresight to look to the future. Well, guess what? Colts' future from here on out is gonna be crap. Manning may have a year or two in him, but that's it.

Stupid Colts.

 

[a123456]

Uh, so, now who gets the first pick? Indy, Vikes, or Rams?

Saw this: http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/32118/can-the-colts-lose-the-top-pick

Basically, if they all end with 2 wins, it depends on strength of schedule, which is highly dependent on results in the next 2 games. But the Colts are "ahead" if the season ended today.

 

[satyajitmenon]

Tell you what though. Orlovsky's got some big balls.

Gabbert in the same situation would fold into the fetal position.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I'd LAUGH MY ASS OFF if the Jags throw the next week's game to fuck the stupid Colts over for being a bunch of stupids.

As evident, Colts consist of a bunch of aging stars, and that nobody on that stupid team has the foresight to look to the future. Well, guess what? Colts' future from here on out is gonna be crap. Manning may have a year or two in him, but that's it.

Stupid Colts.

Even more shocking is Houston's stupidity losing to the Colts. That's being overlooked. They had MUCH more to play for and a bigger reason to win.

 

[MotF Bane]

It's official, the Colts are now also on my enemy list (or any NFL teams that relates to horses for that matter). Cost me a fucking game. Stupid bunch of horse manure.

I bet the fucking refs are in on the bets, a bunch of fucking stupid fucking non-calls at the end.

On the plus side, the Patriots just got helped out by the Texans losing.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Saw this: http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/32118/can-the-colts-lose-the-top-pick

Basically, if they all end with 2 wins, it depends on strength of schedule, which is highly dependent on results in the next 2 games. But the Colts are "ahead" if the season ended today.

Yep. I saw the remaining schedules of all 3 (Colts, Vikings, and Rams) the other day and the Colts have, by far, the easiest schedule. There is no way the Rams will win one of their remaining two, the Vikings have a shot in maybe one of them, and the Colts have already won one and finish with the Jags. The Colts are about to screw themselves.

 

[SSSnail]

Even more shocking is Houston's stupidity losing to the Colts. That's being overlooked. They had MUCH more to play for and a bigger reason to win.

I don't know what's more important - the future of your franchise, or schedule of the playoff? Yes, I know Houston has good reasons to win this game, but I think they underestimated the stupidity of the Colts.

I've never seen a more confused look on the players' faces on a winning team. Should we cheer that we won, or should we cry?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I don't know what's more important - the future of your franchise, or schedule of the playoff? Yes, I know Houston has good reasons to win this game, but I think they underestimated the stupidity of the Colts.

The Colts can't go out and intentionally lose -- or at least, they have to make it look like they are giving some effort. These last two weeks almost make me believe that Goodell had a chat with Irsay due to all the screams of people saying the Colts were intentionally losing.

Of course, I guarantee that had they kept Painter in, the Colts would finish 0-16.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

New FB status:

"Note to Caldwell and Polian: Start Painter next week, you idiots!"

 

[davmat787]

I don't know what's more important - the future of your franchise, or schedule of the playoff? Yes, I know Houston has good reasons to win this game, but I think they underestimated the stupidity of the Colts.

I've never seen a more confused look on the players' faces on a winning team. Should we cheer that we won, or should we cry?

What do you mean by the bolded above? The players and coaches are all playing for jobs next year, its not like as a team the players and coaches will willingly tank a game so they can draft some rookie. I just don't buy that. This ain't the NBA.

 

[SSSnail]

What do you mean by the bolded above? The players and coaches are all playing for jobs next year, its not like as a team the players and coaches will willingly tank a game so they can draft some rookie. I just don't buy that. This ain't the NBA.

If you want to play for your job next year, you should have started at the BEGINNING of the fucking season, not when it comes down to a meaningless stupid win that will cost you the 1st round draft pick of a superstar that comes along once in a Manning.

I take it you're not a football fan.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

What do you mean by the bolded above? The players and coaches are all playing for jobs next year, its not like as a team the players and coaches will willingly tank a game so they can draft some rookie. I just don't buy that. This ain't the NBA.

That's exactly right. Regardless of what happens against the Jags, the Colts are going to have major changes next year and many of these guys are playing for jobs. I think it is safe to say that Orlovsky is going to be back and that Painter will be flipping burgers somewhere.

The only thing people really had on the Colts when they were screaming that the Colts were losing on purpose was the fact that Caldwell refused to bench Painter, and people saw that as a conspiracy since it was so inexplicably stupid to keep playing him. Had they gone with Painter until the end, I guarantee they would have finished 0-16.

 

[a123456]

What do you mean by the bolded above? The players and coaches are all playing for jobs next year, its not like as a team the players and coaches will willingly tank a game so they can draft some rookie. I just don't buy that. This ain't the NBA.

Well, yeah. Guys like Reggie Wayne are playing for their next contract so they're going to go all out 100%. Vets especially don't care about the #1 pick because they gain no benefit for Luck.

It's more a management thing as the only people who care. They could have just stayed with Painter and no one would have really noticed.

I don't think the they were intentionally tanking at the start. They just had some mental issues and changes from not having Manning on the field like they were used to. Painter was just that bad.

 

[davmat787]

If you want to play for your job next year, you should have started at the BEGINNING of the fucking season, now when it comes down to a meaningless stupid win that will cost you the 1st round draft pick of a superstar that comes along once in a Manning.

I take it you're not a football fan.

I'm very much the football fan. What I am referring to is intentionally tanking a game, whether it be the coaches or players. When I asked what you meant by the "stupidity of the Colts", I assumed you meant they were stupid for trying to win. IMO, big difference between playing crappy enough to lose yet still trying and playing hard, vs. intentionally taking plays off or whatever to lose. If the latter happens, it will be glaringly obvious and good luck ever playing for another team.

I take it you're not a football fan?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Well, yeah. Guys like Reggie Wayne are playing for their next contract so they're going to go all out 100%. Vets especially don't care about the #1 pick because they gain no benefit for Luck.

It's more a management thing as the only people who care. They could have just stayed with Painter and no one would have really noticed.

I don't think the they were intentionally tanking at the start. They just had some mental issues and changes from not having Manning on the field like they were used to. Painter was just that bad.

I don't think they were intentionally tanking at any point either, but I did start to wonder (as did many Indy fans) when Caldwell refused to bench Painter. Let's face it, the two catalysts for their recent play (decent game against the Pats and the last two wins) were 1) Firing Coyer 2) Benching Painter.

 

[SSSnail]

Yes, stupid enough to try to win. Even the announcers thought so in their voice and inflections, they even said they don't know if the fans that were cheering in the stadium know what it means when the Colts won.

It also helped by the officiating crew calling bogus penalties, really appreciate it.

 

[Slew Foot]

LOLts

 

[davmat787]

BTW IndyColtsFan, *told you so that Barkley would stay at USC for one more year.



* in one of the weekly NFL threads a month or so ago I believe.

 

[a123456]

The players/coaches aren't stupid to try to win. Probably half of them or more would prefer to not get Luck since that means Manning will be the QB next season. Especially a guy like Wayne if they re sign him and Wayne has maybe a 2 year window left. Luck is useless to him. Manning gives them a better shot to win over the next 2-3 years. Beyond that, probably 80% of the guys won't be around by the time Luck develops because turnover is so high in the NFL so what do they care if Luck wins 5 years down the line.

If they tank and scouts see it, they may lose out on millions of dollars personally (sort of like Desean Jackson) and money is 1000x more important than seeing your team win after you're gone from the team.

 

[SSSnail]

The players/coaches aren't stupid to try to win. Probably half of them or more would prefer to not get Luck since that means Manning will be the QB next season. Especially a guy like Wayne if they re sign him and Wayne has maybe a 2 year window left. Luck is useless to him. Manning gives them a better shot to win over the next 2-3 years. Beyond that, probably 80% of the guys won't be around by the time Luck develops because turnover is so high in the NFL so what do they care if Luck wins 5 years down the line.

If they tank and scouts see it, they may lose out on millions of dollars personally (sort of like Desean Jackson) and money is 1000x more important than seeing your team win after you're gone from the team.

Again, VERY short sighted, if they get Luck, Luck will still be throwing behind Manning. Kinda like how Rogers was throwing behind Favre? A QB needs time to develop, and the few years that Manning has left, will be needed to develop that next franchise QB.

 

[davmat787]

Again, VERY short sighted, if they get Luck, Luck will still be throwing behind Manning. Kinda like how Rogers was throwing behind Favre? A QB needs time to develop, and the few years that Manning has left, will be needed to develop that next franchise QB.

So just to be clear, you are saying that the Colts are stupid and/or short sighted for not intentionally losing the game? A QB drafted #1 basically has a 50/50 chance of making it BTW if you go back and look at the draft history.

I do agree Manning and Luck could have coexisted ala Farve/Rodgers, never understood the rhetoric from the media and fans that if Luck were to end up a Colt, Manning would have to go. Been meaning to ask IndyColtsFan about that.

 

[SSSnail]

So just to be clear, you are saying that the Colts are stupid and/or short sighted for not intentionally losing the game? A QB drafted #1 basically has a 50/50 chance of making it BTW if you go back and look at the draft history.

Still a lot better than whatever chance they're gonna get now if they don't get the 1st round draft pick. Seriously, all of a sudden you decide to try and win the last three games of the season?

Yes, don't talk about first round draft pick (See Alex Smith), but I don't think that was largely his fault but the coaching. Had A. Smith had Harbaugh from the beginning, the 49ers dynasty would have came back a long time ago.

 

[davmat787]

Still a lot better than whatever chance they're gonna get now if they don't get the 1st round draft pick. Seriously, all of a sudden you decide to try and win the last three games of the season?

Yes, don't talk about first round draft pick (See Alex Smith), but I don't think that was largely his fault but the coaching. Had A. Smith had Harbaugh from the beginning, the 49ers dynasty would have came back a long time ago.

I will take that as a yes then, and scratch my head that you question the fitness of my football fandom!

I think you are making a mistake assuming they were NOT trying to win the first 13 games of the season. Sure they are playing very differently now, but as IndyColtsFan points out, major changes have been made in coaching and at QB. I think they were trying to win every game this year.