**Official McCain 2008 Thread**

glen

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It is only a matter of time till these two are running against each other.
 

kyparrish

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wrong for......

Wait, I'll just let someone else say it for me.




edit: This HAS to be an accident. You couldn't have possible meant to post this in OT and not in P&N, could you?
 

glen

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Originally posted by: kyparrish
wrong for......

Wait, I'll just let someone else say it for me.




edit: This HAS to be an accident. You couldn't have possible meant to post this in OT and not in P&N, could you?

Well, since it is just speculation, that makes it more OT than PN.
 
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As Sudheer Anne cannily pointed out in ATPN, it seems unlikely the Republicans would run a moderate Republican like McCain unless things really go south (no pun intended) in a second Bush term. If things go reasonably well over the next four years, another neoconservative with a conservative social agenda will be all but unbeatable.
 

glen

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Originally posted by: DonVito
As Sudheer Anne cannily pointed out in ATPN, it seems unlikely the Republicans would run a moderate Republican like McCain unless things really go south (no pun intended) in a second Bush term. If things go reasonably well over the next four years, another neoconservative with a conservative social agenda will be all but unbeatable.

Personality > Policy
so, who else is there?
Right now, you have Guliani and McCain and that is it unless the Speaker does something amazing in the next 3 years.
 

MithShrike

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I wish McCain had won the 2000 Republican primary. McCain has skills. Voted for him on Tuesday.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: Mith
I wish McCain had won the 2000 Republican primary. McCain has skills. Voted for him on Tuesday.

McCain is a maniac. Did you miss his speaches in 2000? He's an absolute nut. Not to mention he's not loyal to his party. There's no way the Republicans will nominate him.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Mith
I wish McCain had won the 2000 Republican primary. McCain has skills. Voted for him on Tuesday.

McCain is a maniac. Did you miss his speaches in 2000? He's an absolute nut. Not to mention he's not loyal to his party. There's no way the Republicans will nominate him.

:|
 

Falloutboy

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I really don't think jeb will be 2008 he's more of a Dumb asss than bush.... I am really hopping mcain will be healthy enough to run in 08
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: Adn4n
Not loyal to his party? He's got my vote.

Not unless the democrats let him run. The Republican party won't allow him to run under their ticket again. He's proven himself to be a volatile, unpredictable man who votes the way he feels instead of with the party. That's unacceptable behavior.
 

Nebor

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Oh, and let's not forget that he wanted to nuke Vietnam at the time of the war. And that he still uses racial slurs to refer to Asians.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: Nik
2008 will be Hillary Clinton versus Rudy Guliani. Clinton will win.

I think Guliani would have a shot against Hillary. American isn't ready for a woman president.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Nik
2008 will be Hillary Clinton versus Rudy Guliani. Clinton will win.

I think Guliani would have a shot against Hillary. American isn't ready for a woman president.

There was some woman who ran recently, but she didn't make it very far. I forget her name... I'm not sure whether we're ready for a woman president, but I do know that I don't give a crap what sex the president is as long as they get the job done.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Nik
2008 will be Hillary Clinton versus Rudy Guliani. Clinton will win.

I think Guliani would have a shot against Hillary. American isn't ready for a woman president.

There was some woman who ran recently, but she didn't make it very far. I forget her name... I'm not sure whether we're ready for a woman president, but I do know that I don't give a crap what sex the president is as long as they get the job done.

I've reached a point where I really don't care. My life would be the same in 4 years with Bush or Kerry as president. They're so similar. All politicians are. Anyone can do the job, but it's a major business having elections and getting someone elected. Lots of money to be made there.
 

bobbybe01

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Oh, and let's not forget that he wanted to nuke Vietnam at the time of the war. And that he still uses racial slurs to refer to Asians.

Oh, freak...I know he had a nice visit in their POW camps for a couple of years....:confused:
 

bobbybe01

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Clinton may have a chance, but I think she would need some Southern Democrat that leans more to the moderate side. Isn't Guliani's health not in top shape?
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: bobbybe01
Clinton may have a chance, but I think she would need some Southern Democrat that leans more to the moderate side. Isn't Guliani's health not in top shape?

That was a mistake reported to the press after an independant lab somehow contaminated his blood sample with supposedly 'fat-free yogurt.'
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: bobbybe01
Clinton may have a chance, but I think she would need some Southern Democrat that leans more to the moderate side. Isn't Guliani's health not in top shape?

Hilary is going to have a really hard time in the south. The south is steadily becoming more and more Republican. Over the last 40 years, they've gone from 20 dems and ~9 repubs to 22 rebubs and ~8 dems this year. If Kerry couldn't swing the south (especially deep south and no way in hell will a dem ever get Texas), there's no way someone even MORE liberal, like Clinton, will ever have a chance. On the other hand, I think she'll easily take the coasts and quite possibly many of the northern midwest.
 

erikistired

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Nik
2008 will be Hillary Clinton versus Rudy Guliani. Clinton will win.

I think Guliani would have a shot against Hillary. American isn't ready for a woman president.

There was some woman who ran recently, but she didn't make it very far. I forget her name... I'm not sure whether we're ready for a woman president, but I do know that I don't give a crap what sex the president is as long as they get the job done.

I've reached a point where I really don't care. My life would be the same in 4 years with Bush or Kerry as president. They're so similar. All politicians are. Anyone can do the job, but it's a major business having elections and getting someone elected. Lots of money to be made there.

kerry had the terrorist vote with a personal endorsement by bin laden, that was kinda disturbing to me. ;)
 

joshw10

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: bobbybe01
Clinton may have a chance, but I think she would need some Southern Democrat that leans more to the moderate side. Isn't Guliani's health not in top shape?

Hilary is going to have a really hard time in the south. The south is steadily becoming more and more Republican. Over the last 40 years, they've gone from 20 dems and ~9 repubs to 22 rebubs and ~8 dems this year. If Kerry couldn't swing the south (especially deep south and no way in hell will a dem ever get Texas), there's no way someone even MORE liberal, like Clinton, will ever have a chance. On the other hand, I think she'll easily take the coasts and quite possibly many of the northern midwest.

As the past 2 elections have shown, you dont need any of the south, or midwest. Just get Ohio or Florida (not really a southern state), and you're in.