Official Improvements of Piledriver Cores.

[frozentundra123456]

Not to sound abundantly silly, but a 1.1% increase in server market share is significant... You did read server share right? I think total market share did increase by ~1%, a trend I expect to continue. In a theoretical vacuum bulldozer is a good processor, it just didn't live up to expectations, or perform well price/performance depending on the workload.

I expect that trinity/piledriver will improve greatly on the platform, but in recognition of the general enthusiast attitude, if it doesn't bake you a cake and win your video games it will be a "failure."

What do you mean by "in a theoretical vacuum"? Do you mean "if Intel didn't make a processor that performs better in almost every instance at lower power to boot?"

 

[ctsoth]

What do you mean by "in a theoretical vacuum"? Do you mean "if Intel didn't make a processor that performs better in almost every instance at lower power to boot?"

You did read my post right? Like the part where I said that it doesn't perform well price/performance? Cause I'm pretty sure its there. With over 1k posts I'm sure you've had the time to discover the meaning of statements such as 'theoretical vacuum' and 'price to performance.'

 

[ShadowVVL]

did some looking around and found trinity will launch on may 15th which is about 12 days.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Can't wait, Bulldozer is getting played out we need new material from AMD.

 

[frozentundra123456]

You did read my post right? Like the part where I said that it doesn't perform well price/performance? Cause I'm pretty sure its there. With over 1k posts I'm sure you've had the time to discover the meaning of statements such as 'theoretical vacuum' and 'price to performance.'

Well you just seem to be saying BD would be a good chip if there wasn't something better. Not sure what is the point of just stating the obvious. Yes, it will do the job in most cases, but there is a better alternative.

 

[Chiropteran]

did some looking around and found trinity will launch on may 15th which is about 12 days.

Hmm... Diablo 3 launches on May 15th also. I see some cross-product marketing opportunities here.

 

[ctsoth]

I hope they do a tie in with D3. Llano runs D3 at max settings already.....

 

[ShintaiDK]

How many FM2 mobos have you people seen? If it releases the 15th, its gonna be a paper.

I heard it releases in august.

 

[blckgrffn]

How many FM2 mobos have you people seen? If it releases the 15th, its gonna be a paper.

I heard it releases in august.

Sigh.

Either that, or every Trinity GloFo can make is going into (spoken for) laptops.

I hope for AMD's balance sheet, it is the latter.

 

[Ajay]

Bulldozer at 6Ghz would be interesting

Yes it would be - if it was pulling <= 300W @ that clock rate.

 

[Kalessian]

Remember according to amd both trinity and brazos2 are already shipping http://www.dailytech.com/AMDs+Brazos+20+Trinity+Storm+Onto+the+Market/article24506.htm

 

[ShintaiDK]

Remember according to amd both trinity and brazos2 are already shipping http://www.dailytech.com/AMDs+Brazos+20+Trinity+Storm+Onto+the+Market/article24506.htm

So they have been shipping since Q1 to OEMs and partners. And we still havent seen mobos, chips or leaks.

How many did they ship? 5?

 

[blckgrffn]

So they have been shipping since Q1 to OEMs and partners. And we still havent seen mobos, chips or leaks.

How many did they ship? 5?

I heard six.

 

[ShintaiDK]

http://en.ocworkbench.com/tech/sock...ed-in-august-2012-together-with-the-new-apus/

Another site that thinks august.

 

[blckgrffn]

http://en.ocworkbench.com/tech/sock...ed-in-august-2012-together-with-the-new-apus/

Another site that thinks august.

That's dumb reasoning on AMD's part, though (IMHO) and wouldn't really describe why laptop parts won't be available, I was under the (possibly wrong!) impression that mobile Llano sold briskly.

The reason desktop FM1 didn't sell (again, IMHO) well was that the boards got bad reputations, were expensive and most of all were competing against 960t/AM3 type setups that were cheaper and offered a lot more head room.

The onboard GPU is cool and all, but when you can buy a board, CPU and graphics card for what it cost to get an ATX FM1 and an A8 (AMD branded, no less!)... not too mention Intel being surprisingly competitive in the value market, that's just a recipe for slow sales. Had A8 offered better performance than a Deneb/Thuban (~3.6 Ghz clock speeds or higher) it might have been a different story.

But low clock speeds and GloFo? Is this a recurring theme, or what?

 

[pelov]

Sigh.

Either that, or every Trinity GloFo can make is going into (spoken for) laptops.

I hope for AMD's balance sheet, it is the latter.

I think that's the case. I can't find the link but apparently some have already made it to HP's site in Asian and are up for sale. AMD made no secret that Trinity was a laptop/OEM chip first and foremost. so it's apparently a paper launch with laptop availability soon after. I'd imagine desktop would be after that -- maybe a month?

The fact that motherboards haven't been released doesn't worry me at all as it's FM2 and not FM1 backwards compatible, so releasing them the same week as the chips would make sense, because who the hell wants to release a useless motherboard when there's no CPU for it?

 

[Subyman]

Can't wait, Bulldozer is getting played out we need new material from AMD.

Bulldozer was played out on launch. I don't know anyone with a Bulldozer CPU. They are certainly an anomaly even on tech sites.

 

[Chiropteran]

Bulldozer was played out on launch. I don't know anyone with a Bulldozer CPU. They are certainly an anomaly even on tech sites.

I have two.

They are great budget CPU, if you need ECC, multiple cores, and can take advantage of a microcenter deal. The super low idle power usage is a plus for machines that don't need much CPU (bitcoin miners).

 

[Phynaz]

Hmm... Diablo 3 launches on May 15th also. I see some cross-product marketing opportunities here.

"Play our second rate game on second rate hardware!"

No.

 

[blckgrffn]

"Play our second rate game on second rate hardware!"

No.

Haha, is it sad I am more excited about Torchlight 2?

And I bought D2 on launch day and played the crap out of it solo, FWIW. Had the "good" graphics, too with my Voodoo2. Played D1 plenty. I remember seeing it on a Mac on a PBS show some Saturday morning and thinking "I have to play that game." A couple years later, boy did I ever...

Torchlight will run fine on a Llano or Trinity too, I am sure

 

[ctsoth]

"Play our second rate game on second rate hardware!"

No.

DIII is way better than DII.

It was my impression that mobile trinity will make it to market first, desktop trinity to follow end of q2->q3.

I find it so silly how emotional people are about hardware. As long as you select the product that best suits your needs, there is nothing to bitch about. Llano, Sandy, Ivy, Conroe who cares. Whatever fills your needs the most efficiently. The only reason I upgraded from my C2D is I fried it after several years of a 100% overclock.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Remember according to amd both trinity and brazos2 are already shipping http://www.dailytech.com/AMDs+Brazos+20+Trinity+Storm+Onto+the+Market/article24506.htm

I'm looking forward to Brazos 2.0 netbooks and mini-ITX mobos. Should be a hit! (Hoping that they increased the clockspeeds and overall CPU power on the desktop models. Enough to run Netflix HD at least.)

 

[sequoia464]

Bulldozer was played out on launch. I don't know anyone with a Bulldozer CPU. They are certainly an anomaly even on tech sites.

Depends on the site you go to. BD is actually discussed for what it is on some sites - on others it is condemned as the spawn of Satan. I have a 6100 and it was fine for most things that I did. Wound up replacing it with a Thuban.

 

[happysmiles]

Less than a week to go and barely any leaks. even on their Facebook page there isn't a count down or a build up or anything

 

[IntelUser2000]

So they have been shipping since Q1 to OEMs and partners. And we still havent seen mobos, chips or leaks.

How many did they ship? 5?

That was same with Llano. They announced that the parts started shipping in April and Laptops based on it came in June.

I think the 35/45W parts(if the 45W parts are even there) will come first with the 17W chips and desktop ones later.