Specop 007
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- Jan 31, 2005
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I would have never in a million years guessed that one. Its actually so confusing to me I dont even know where to start Mr. Tough Guy.
JohnOfSheffield
Lifer
- Jun 26, 2007
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I expect nothing but ridicule of our efforts in Afghanistan/Pakistan from the likes of you. And i really don't care.
Cheerio revolutionary twat.
ProfJohn
Lifer
- Jul 28, 2006
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A better option would be for both sides to work together and craft a much smaller bill that is very direct and starts the spending as soon as possible.
Bush's deficit spending for his WHOLE first term amounted to $946 billion. Obama is going to pass that amount with ONE bill.
Specop 007
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- Jan 31, 2005
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Making shit up again Mr. Badass? Please point out anywhere, on any forum, I have done what you said. Shit I can even give you a list of some other forums I frequent. I use the same user name everywhere.
Or you can keep on making shit up. Its actually amusing to me.
JohnOfSheffield
Lifer
- Jun 26, 2007
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Well, i don't think it will go that far, in fact i think the paranoia you are portraying isn't really what you think will happen.
So are we going to discuss a fairy tale scenario that you don't believe in or the real world?
Besides, i'm a Brit so you might be able to fill me in on some of the real world politics on this instead of just acting like you are daft. (i know you are not)
dbk
Lifer
- Apr 23, 2004
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No reason for the Democrats to offer up a hand to the Republicans in this - They have uber majority.
You heard the President tonight blaming the Bush admin for the mess in a partisan manner. Nothing wrong with that.
Republicans held the reins for a while - time for the Dems to get a shot. Standard politicking as usual.
I didn't listen to any of it, since everything he says now is just reiterating almost everything in his campaign. I would have been pissed if part of Heroes or 24 was pre-empted. Maybe he does know when to STFU.
Good question. Sounds like it would save the tax payers 100K per job as well. Truth be told this wasnt a stimulus package anyways. Just an expansion of govt package under the fear of a depression. So the cost of an actual job is irrelevant. They(the democrats) got a power grab. I cant even lay complete blame at Obama's feet on this one. The democrats went wild in congress. Spoils of winning the war I guess.
I think a better suggestion would the be re-establishment of a work program that you qualify for after layoffs for 75% of your previous salary up to 50k. You are retrained and work on infrastructure, or if you have the skill set in the management of infrastructure programs. Let people stay on it a max 2 years and give them 5 hours a week to job search on the governments dime. Keeps funds flowing through the economy, keeps the infrastructure up and you are helping people help themselves. None of this "here lil business, take this money and play good" shit. Probably cost a hell of a lot less than the government program ideas as well.
JohnOfSheffield
Lifer
- Jun 26, 2007
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Son, when you grow up, would you like to be:
Like Boberfett: a hatefilled twat who hates everything in every society.
or
Like Jpeyton: pretty much the same.
He is the most careful speaker of all time when it comes to foreign policy. This..... is........ myyyyyyyyyyyy answer...... to...... youuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr question.... now... I .... finally.... decided.....this.....wooooooord....iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis ok to... use.
JohnOfSheffield
Lifer
- Jun 26, 2007
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And that was better than when he tried to say something. Hell Ronnie was a better speaker than that when he didn't even know where he was, who he was or why there was no palm trees there (this is a joke only a few will get)
idiotekniQues
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- Jan 4, 2007
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people trying to say old boss=same boss aka bush=obama
you are all bonkers.
everyone else that says this is all fear? a bunch of mental recessionists.
phil gramm called - he is hiring pool boys.
you are all bonkers.
everyone else that says this is all fear? a bunch of mental recessionists.
phil gramm called - he is hiring pool boys.
So is the world coming to and end if we dont pass a trillion dollary spending bill today?
Or do we actually have some time to debate it?
Employment is a lagging indicator and so far we are still not as bad off as the 1980 recession, employment wise. This recession we cant get out of if we dont do something soon(depression) just needs to stop.
if you were going to piss money, isn't that how you would want to do it? that way it blows back at you.
umbrella39
Lifer
- Jun 11, 2004
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No it isn't supposed to happen! We are far better off just letting the decider make the tough decisions and follow along blindly with our noses pressed up against his asshole for 8 solid years.
Jaskalas
Lifer
- Jun 23, 2004
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He made it very clear that we're either with him on spending trillions, and we can negotiate on how to spend it, or we're against him. The idea of not spending trillions is unacceptable to him, and he will not negotiate on that.
Obama is on the economy as Bush was to Iraq.
Red Dawn
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- Jun 4, 2001
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Great Job all around, something we aren't use to from our President after the last 8 years. I think he did a great job selling and defending the bill and answering the questions intelligently. Will it convince the Wingnuts? Hell no, even if they agreed they'd still not be honest enough to admit it.
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