Official Dodge Challenger Interior

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Ktulu

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Arkaign
$40k? I'll take a 1-year-old Vette, thanksforplaying.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/...ice=40000&cardist=1233

1900 Miles, Mint Condition, and kicks the ever-living sh*t out of the Challenger.

Read : 0-60 low 4s, Quarter in the 12s, 16/26mpg, ~70mph slalom, ~190mph top speed.

The Z06 is even better
The ZR1 is simply madness

except the challenger isnt targeted at the sports car crowd.

it's for people who remember and lived in the muscle car era. and it holds 4-5 people, as opposed to 2 in the vette.

And if we are talking used cars, you may as well go with an 89 Civic with an LS6 stuffed into it for half the cost. It'll smoke both of them.

lol true. But I just don't think people will buy a Challenger because it's 'practical'. I see this being a repeat of the Ford Thunderbird revival : overpriced, with questionable styling, middling performance, and a short lifespan.

Dude, you hit it on the nose. The only buyers this will attract are the nostalgic crowd.
 

zerocool84

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Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Arkaign
$40k? I'll take a 1-year-old Vette, thanksforplaying.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/...ice=40000&cardist=1233

1900 Miles, Mint Condition, and kicks the ever-living sh*t out of the Challenger.

Read : 0-60 low 4s, Quarter in the 12s, 16/26mpg, ~70mph slalom, ~190mph top speed.

The Z06 is even better
The ZR1 is simply madness

except the challenger isnt targeted at the sports car crowd.

it's for people who remember and lived in the muscle car era. and it holds 4-5 people, as opposed to 2 in the vette.

And if we are talking used cars, you may as well go with an 89 Civic with an LS6 stuffed into it for half the cost. It'll smoke both of them.

lol true. But I just don't think people will buy a Challenger because it's 'practical'. I see this being a repeat of the Ford Thunderbird revival : overpriced, with questionable styling, middling performance, and a short lifespan.

Dude, you hit it on the nose. The only buyers this will attract are the nostalgic crowd.

LOL of course that's why the auctions for the GT500/Challenger have gone for HUGE prices and is pretty much why they named the cars the way they did instead of calling them something else. It helps sell.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: Arkaign
$40k? I'll take a 1-year-old Vette, thanksforplaying.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/...ice=40000&cardist=1233

1900 Miles, Mint Condition, and kicks the ever-living sh*t out of the Challenger.

Read : 0-60 low 4s, Quarter in the 12s, 16/26mpg, ~70mph slalom, ~190mph top speed.

The Z06 is even better
The ZR1 is simply madness

except the challenger isnt targeted at the sports car crowd.

it's for people who remember and lived in the muscle car era. and it holds 4-5 people, as opposed to 2 in the vette.

And if we are talking used cars, you may as well go with an 89 Civic with an LS6 stuffed into it for half the cost. It'll smoke both of them.

lol true. But I just don't think people will buy a Challenger because it's 'practical'. I see this being a repeat of the Ford Thunderbird revival : overpriced, with questionable styling, middling performance, and a short lifespan.

Dude, you hit it on the nose. The only buyers this will attract are the nostalgic crowd.

LOL of course that's why the auctions for the GT500/Challenger have gone for HUGE prices and is pretty much why they named the cars the way they did instead of calling them something else. It helps sell.

Well, that's just a tactic you can use if your market is very small, such as in the case of the Challenger/Thunderbird/etc.

If you have an overpriced car that will only be really desired by a small group of older people that have both enough money and the desire to blow it on a retro-styled muscle car, then it's best to keep production small so that demand can exceed the tiny supply. It's good P.R., but will never have an impact like the Mustang/Camaro.

So in short, it sounds like Dodge just wasn't very ambitious with this idea. In theory, if they got their shit together, they could have made a $30k Mustang-GT/Z28 competitor and sold boatloads of them. But no, they're making another underwhelming, overpriced, shoddy-looking, low-production heavy piece of crap, and that's as high as their aspirations seem to be.

Thank god for the Viper and their Ram series. Today's Chrysler is so incompetent I doubt they'd even go ahead with the Viper project if it didn't already exist in fine form. One need only look at the fact that they took a decent pocket-rocket (Neon SRT-4), and made it 1000x worse (Caliber SRT-4). WHY?
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
lol true. But I just don't think people will buy a Challenger because it's 'practical'. I see this being a repeat of the Ford Thunderbird revival : overpriced, with questionable styling, middling performance, and a short lifespan.

except the 6.1L hemi is a great engine (look at the gt500 - 500hp and it only does 0-60 in 4.3)
the styling is great (at least, to the target market)
and save for price gouging by stealerships, it's not too bad considering that the 300SRT8 and charger SRT8 were around 40k (300SRT was 42k base, charger was 36kbase)

the thunderbird was positively hideous and failed with good reasoning. people actually like the challenger though.
 

thedarkwolf

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Arkaign how many times have I told you this is the top of the line SRT version of the car and thats why its $40k? Its the Cobra fighter of the challenger line. The plain old R/T version will go up against the GT in performance and price and there will be a v6 version that will go up against the v6 mustang. They will probably be a couple grand more at each performance level and its a huge fat pig but get over the $40k price for the SRT already.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Arkaign how many times have I told you this is the top of the line SRT version of the car and thats why its $40k? Its the Cobra fighter of the challenger line. The plain old R/T version will go up against the GT in performance and price and there will be a v6 version that will go up against the v6 mustang. They will probably be a couple grand more at each performance level and its a huge fat pig but get over the $40k price for the SRT already.

lol ok calm down :D I'll try to bolt that into my head somehow.

I still don't think this will fly with anyone outside of the relative few who even remember the original Challenger.

The Charger was infamous because of the Dukes of Hazzard, not to mention the new one is a somewhat practical vehicle. The new Challenger is pure craziness. 2 Doors, terrible fuel economy, heavy as sin, highly expensive, and cheap looking. This is going to be as big a hit as the last Mercury Cougar!
 

ElFenix

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i hate those gauges. i don't like pods at all and that is about the cheapest, ugliest pod setup ever. and indiglo is for cheap watches. and why does the navigation system look like a cheap aftermarket install?

this car looks like it suffers from the same problem the mustang does: it is simultaneously the second cheapest and also the most expensive car on the dealer's lot. and not much is done to differentiate the two inside. (ok, the better mustangs get something, but it's the same dashboard top and console, etc.)