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Wreckem

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Originally posted by: thereds
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
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real classy move by ou leaving their starters in for 4th quarter when they're up 50 points.

If you don't understand football please stay out of football threads. With 3 teams tied for the lead in the Big 12 South the BCS standings are key, the standings are driven by polls and the polls are greatly influenced by margin of victory. A 50 point win is worth far more than a 20 point win and might mean the difference between a national title shot and a lesser bowl.

i guarantee i know more about football than you. you'll see it today. brad edwards' projected bcs standings has texas #2.

as far as the "3 way tie" in the big 12 south, it's not a 3 way tie. it's between ou and texas. the determining factor is will voters vote for who won the red river rivalry or who is the "hot" team.

btw, anyone hear mike leach's quote after the game? he actually had the audacity to say no one has ever had to play a tougher 3 game stretch, LOLOLOLOL. i guess he forgot when texas played a harder 4 game stretch and didn't have a bye week separating games.

Its not a three way tie until OU beats Okie State. If Okie state beats OU(they are playing in stillwater), it'll be UT to the NCG and Tech to the Big 12 title game.

UT doesnt have to worry about the polls. Tech is still beating OU in several of the computers.

As for me, well, its obvious the Tech defense that played last night played no where near what they had been playing. Even if they played like the did against UT and Okie State we probably would have lost, but that was classic Tech D from several years ago. I've seen seen less missed tackles in a Jr Highschool football game. Tech isnt as bad as that game made them appear, they just had a horrible game in Norman. It was often the 5 or 6th guy to touch a guy that actually ended up tackling.

I was waiting for Carter to body slam on OU player. The only two Tech players to play with emotion were Elf and Carter.

It's called playing against the No. 1 scoring offense in the country.

No it was more than that. There are no excuses for the lack of tackling. That doesnt have to do with how good the offense is.
 

thereds

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: thereds
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: hdeck
real classy move by ou leaving their starters in for 4th quarter when they're up 50 points.

If you don't understand football please stay out of football threads. With 3 teams tied for the lead in the Big 12 South the BCS standings are key, the standings are driven by polls and the polls are greatly influenced by margin of victory. A 50 point win is worth far more than a 20 point win and might mean the difference between a national title shot and a lesser bowl.

i guarantee i know more about football than you. you'll see it today. brad edwards' projected bcs standings has texas #2.

as far as the "3 way tie" in the big 12 south, it's not a 3 way tie. it's between ou and texas. the determining factor is will voters vote for who won the red river rivalry or who is the "hot" team.

btw, anyone hear mike leach's quote after the game? he actually had the audacity to say no one has ever had to play a tougher 3 game stretch, LOLOLOLOL. i guess he forgot when texas played a harder 4 game stretch and didn't have a bye week separating games.

Its not a three way tie until OU beats Okie State. If Okie state beats OU(they are playing in stillwater), it'll be UT to the NCG and Tech to the Big 12 title game.

UT doesnt have to worry about the polls. Tech is still beating OU in several of the computers.

As for me, well, its obvious the Tech defense that played last night played no where near what they had been playing. Even if they played like the did against UT and Okie State we probably would have lost, but that was classic Tech D from several years ago. I've seen seen less missed tackles in a Jr Highschool football game. Tech isnt as bad as that game made them appear, they just had a horrible game in Norman. It was often the 5 or 6th guy to touch a guy that actually ended up tackling.

I was waiting for Carter to body slam on OU player. The only two Tech players to play with emotion were Elf and Carter.

It's called playing against the No. 1 scoring offense in the country.

No it was more than that. There are no excuses for the lack of tackling. That doesnt have to do with how good the offense is.

Ok my bad. Guess Tech would have won had they tackled.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
sagarin rankings are the only ones out:

1 Texas 3
2 Texas Tech 1
3 Alabama 2
4 Oklahoma 6
5 Utah 4
6 Oklahoma State 8
7 Florida 5
8 Penn State 10
9 Georgia 7
10 USC 9

Sagarin is the only 1 out, but two other ones usually fall in line with Sagarin. The rest never come out until the BCS comes out.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: thereds
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: thereds
Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: hdeck
real classy move by ou leaving their starters in for 4th quarter when they're up 50 points.

If you don't understand football please stay out of football threads. With 3 teams tied for the lead in the Big 12 South the BCS standings are key, the standings are driven by polls and the polls are greatly influenced by margin of victory. A 50 point win is worth far more than a 20 point win and might mean the difference between a national title shot and a lesser bowl.

i guarantee i know more about football than you. you'll see it today. brad edwards' projected bcs standings has texas #2.

as far as the "3 way tie" in the big 12 south, it's not a 3 way tie. it's between ou and texas. the determining factor is will voters vote for who won the red river rivalry or who is the "hot" team.

btw, anyone hear mike leach's quote after the game? he actually had the audacity to say no one has ever had to play a tougher 3 game stretch, LOLOLOLOL. i guess he forgot when texas played a harder 4 game stretch and didn't have a bye week separating games.

Its not a three way tie until OU beats Okie State. If Okie state beats OU(they are playing in stillwater), it'll be UT to the NCG and Tech to the Big 12 title game.

UT doesnt have to worry about the polls. Tech is still beating OU in several of the computers.

As for me, well, its obvious the Tech defense that played last night played no where near what they had been playing. Even if they played like the did against UT and Okie State we probably would have lost, but that was classic Tech D from several years ago. I've seen seen less missed tackles in a Jr Highschool football game. Tech isnt as bad as that game made them appear, they just had a horrible game in Norman. It was often the 5 or 6th guy to touch a guy that actually ended up tackling.

I was waiting for Carter to body slam on OU player. The only two Tech players to play with emotion were Elf and Carter.

It's called playing against the No. 1 scoring offense in the country.

No it was more than that. There are no excuses for the lack of tackling. That doesnt have to do with how good the offense is.

Ok my bad. Guess Tech would have won had they tackled.

Not saying that, but it wouldnt have been 65-21. The Tech D played horribly. It wasnt just the OU offense was #1 in the country. That played a part but when it takes the 5th or 6th dude to tackle someone its more to blame on the D than on the O.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: hdeck
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: hdeck
real classy move by ou leaving their starters in for 4th quarter when they're up 50 points.

If you don't understand football please stay out of football threads. With 3 teams tied for the lead in the Big 12 South the BCS standings are key, the standings are driven by polls and the polls are greatly influenced by margin of victory. A 50 point win is worth far more than a 20 point win and might mean the difference between a national title shot and a lesser bowl.

i guarantee i know more about football than you. you'll see it today. brad edwards' projected bcs standings has texas #2.

as far as the "3 way tie" in the big 12 south, it's not a 3 way tie. it's between ou and texas. the determining factor is will voters vote for who won the red river rivalry or who is the "hot" team.

btw, anyone hear mike leach's quote after the game? he actually had the audacity to say no one has ever had to play a tougher 3 game stretch, LOLOLOLOL. i guess he forgot when texas played a harder 4 game stretch and didn't have a bye week separating games.

See Zippy, here is where you failed: Anyone can *say* they know about football, the internet is full of ignorant poseurs. When you simultaneously make statements about running up the score without accepting the reality that in this case the polls will determine which team gets the title shot you prove that you don't in fact understand anything at all. With a loss to Texas head-to-head Oklahoma's only chance was to dominate TT, crush them, humiliate them. Everyone on earth understood that. Everyone except you that is. You can blather about your self-bestowed credentials as a football expert all you want, but your true colors are on display here.
 

bignateyk

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
sagarin rankings are the only ones out:

1 Texas 3
2 Texas Tech 1
3 Alabama 2
4 Oklahoma 6
5 Utah 4
6 Oklahoma State 8
7 Florida 5
8 Penn State 10
9 Georgia 7
10 USC 9

Is that a fucking joke? Four big12 teams in the top 6? It's obvious from the play last night and all season that none of those teams have a defense, and that at best, they are inconsistent teams.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: ElFenix
sagarin rankings are the only ones out:

1 Texas 3
2 Texas Tech 1
3 Alabama 2
4 Oklahoma 6
5 Utah 4
6 Oklahoma State 8
7 Florida 5
8 Penn State 10
9 Georgia 7
10 USC 9

Is that a fucking joke? Four big12 teams in the top 6? It's obvious from the play last night and all season that none of those teams have a defense, and that at best, they are inconsistent teams.

Texas is 1-1 against top 10 teams and 3-1 against top 30. OU is 2-1 against top 10 teams, and 4-1 against top 30. Tech is 1-1 agaianst top 10 teams, and 3-1 against top 30.

Okie State shouldnt be that high, Ill give you that.

 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: bignateyk

Is that a fucking joke? Four big12 teams in the top 6? It's obvious from the play last night and all season that none of those teams have a defense, and that at best, they are inconsistent teams.

there was plenty of defense in the apple cup yesterday. doesn't mean those teams weren't 0-for against D1A this year.
 

skim milk

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Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: ElFenix
sagarin rankings are the only ones out:

1 Texas 3
2 Texas Tech 1
3 Alabama 2
4 Oklahoma 6
5 Utah 4
6 Oklahoma State 8
7 Florida 5
8 Penn State 10
9 Georgia 7
10 USC 9

Is that a fucking joke? Four big12 teams in the top 6? It's obvious from the play last night and all season that none of those teams have a defense, and that at best, they are inconsistent teams.

That ranking is a fucking joke, WTF
 

bignateyk

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Originally posted by: fritolays
Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: ElFenix
sagarin rankings are the only ones out:

1 Texas 3
2 Texas Tech 1
3 Alabama 2
4 Oklahoma 6
5 Utah 4
6 Oklahoma State 8
7 Florida 5
8 Penn State 10
9 Georgia 7
10 USC 9

Is that a fucking joke? Four big12 teams in the top 6? It's obvious from the play last night and all season that none of those teams have a defense, and that at best, they are inconsistent teams.

That ranking is a fucking joke, WTF

If the computers arent going to look at margin of victory, they might as well stop looking at strength of schedule too. What a joke. How a team gets blown out and utterly embarrassed in every facet of the game and still ends up in second place is unbelievable. But who gives a shit? The computers just think they lost by 1 point to a top 5 team :roll:
 

slsmnaz

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
sagarin rankings are the only ones out:

1 Texas 3
2 Texas Tech 1
3 Alabama 2
4 Oklahoma 6
5 Utah 4
6 Oklahoma State 8
7 Florida 5
8 Penn State 10
9 Georgia 7
10 USC 9

Florida at #7 is just stupid. Won't matter after they take care of bama in a couple weeks though

 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: fritolays
Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: ElFenix
sagarin rankings are the only ones out:

1 Texas 3
2 Texas Tech 1
3 Alabama 2
4 Oklahoma 6
5 Utah 4
6 Oklahoma State 8
7 Florida 5
8 Penn State 10
9 Georgia 7
10 USC 9

Is that a fucking joke? Four big12 teams in the top 6? It's obvious from the play last night and all season that none of those teams have a defense, and that at best, they are inconsistent teams.

That ranking is a fucking joke, WTF

If the computers arent going to look at margin of victory, they might as well stop looking at strength of schedule too. What a joke. How a team gets blown out and utterly embarrassed in every facet of the game and still ends up in second place is unbelievable. But who gives a shit? The computers just think they lost by 1 point to a top 5 team :roll:

Add in Margin of Victory and USC would be #1 in every computer poll because of its cupcake conference. USC, Florida, Penn State, all lost to unranked teams. Texas, Texas Tech, OU, and Okie State all lost to top 10 teams.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Originally posted by: ElFenix
sagarin rankings are the only ones out:

1 Texas 3
2 Texas Tech 1
3 Alabama 2
4 Oklahoma 6
5 Utah 4
6 Oklahoma State 8
7 Florida 5
8 Penn State 10
9 Georgia 7
10 USC 9

Florida at #7 is just stupid. Won't matter after they take care of bama in a couple weeks though

Florida is 0-0 against top 10 and 2-1 against top 30.

 

bignateyk

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: fritolays
Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: ElFenix
sagarin rankings are the only ones out:

1 Texas 3
2 Texas Tech 1
3 Alabama 2
4 Oklahoma 6
5 Utah 4
6 Oklahoma State 8
7 Florida 5
8 Penn State 10
9 Georgia 7
10 USC 9

Is that a fucking joke? Four big12 teams in the top 6? It's obvious from the play last night and all season that none of those teams have a defense, and that at best, they are inconsistent teams.

That ranking is a fucking joke, WTF

If the computers arent going to look at margin of victory, they might as well stop looking at strength of schedule too. What a joke. How a team gets blown out and utterly embarrassed in every facet of the game and still ends up in second place is unbelievable. But who gives a shit? The computers just think they lost by 1 point to a top 5 team :roll:

Add in Margin of Victory and USC would be #1 in every computer poll because of its cupcake conference. USC, Florida, Penn State, all lost to unranked teams. Texas, Texas Tech, OU, and Okie State all lost to top 10 teams.


They all lost to each other. How can you accurately rank teams within the same conference when they don't play anyone out of it? It's just as likely that they all suck. Strength of schedule is completely biased and has proven to be completely inaccurate. I think USC would slaughter any one of those top 4 big12 teams.
 

KLin

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Bump for new AP Poll

1. Alabama (63) 11-0 1,622
2. Florida (2) 10-1 1,512
3. Oklahoma 10-1 1,486
4. Texas 10-1 1,482
5. USC 9-1 1,352
6. Penn State 11-1 1,238
7. Texas Tech 10-1 1,212
8. Utah 12-0 1,206
9. Boise State 11-0 1,064
10. Ohio State 10-2 1,043
11. Oklahoma State 9-2 997
12. Missouri 9-2 917
13. Georgia 9-2 874
14. TCU 10-2 750
15. Ball State 11-0 731
16. Cincinnati 9-2 640
17. Oregon State 8-3 604
18. Georgia Tech 8-3 339
19. Oregon 8-3 320
20. Boston College 8-3 309
20. Brigham Young 10-2 309
22. Michigan State 9-3 274
23. Florida State 8-3 214
24. Northwestern 9-3 145
25. OLE MISS 0-0 127
 

KLin

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So we have a difference of opinion on who the #2 and #3 teams are eh? I can't wait for 12/4. Big matchup between Florida and Alabama. :D
 

KLin

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If Oregon State loses to Oregon next week, will that increase the chances of Boise State grabbing an At-Large bid if they Beat Fresno State on Friday night?
 

her209

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Originally posted by: KLin
If Oregon State loses to Oregon next week, will that increase the chances of Boise State grabbing an At-Large bid if they Beat Fresno State on Friday night?
From: link

3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:

A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.

No more than one such team from Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, and the Western Athletic Conference shall earn an automatic berth in any year. (Note: a second team may be eligible for at-large eligibility as noted below.) If two or more teams from those conferences satisfy the provisions for an automatic berth, then the team with the highest finish in the final BCS Standings will receive the automatic berth, and the remaining team or teams will be considered for at-large selection if it meets the criteria.

4. Notre Dame will have an automatic berth if it is in the top eight of the final BCS Standings.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: KLin
If Oregon State loses to Oregon next week, will that increase the chances of Boise State grabbing an At-Large bid if they Beat Fresno State on Friday night?

Probably. If Oregon state loses USC gets the one and only bid from the Pac 10. If OSU wins and gets the Rose Bowl spot USC would surely claim an at-large bid meaning there would be one less to spare.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: bignateyk

If the computers arent going to look at margin of victory, they might as well stop looking at strength of schedule too. What a joke. How a team gets blown out and utterly embarrassed in every facet of the game and still ends up in second place is unbelievable. But who gives a shit? The computers just think they lost by 1 point to a top 5 team :roll:
this margin of victory poll was in the BCS until 2002

1. Oklahoma
2. Texas
3. Texas Tech
4. Florida
5. Oklahoma State


sagarin's MoV poll has:
1. USC
2. Florida
3. Penn State
4. Texas
5. Oklahoma
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: KLin
If Oregon State loses to Oregon next week, will that increase the chances of Boise State grabbing an At-Large bid if they Beat Fresno State on Friday night?
From: link

3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:

A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.

No more than one such team from Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, and the Western Athletic Conference shall earn an automatic berth in any year. (Note: a second team may be eligible for at-large eligibility as noted below.) If two or more teams from those conferences satisfy the provisions for an automatic berth, then the team with the highest finish in the final BCS Standings will receive the automatic berth, and the remaining team or teams will be considered for at-large selection if it meets the criteria.

4. Notre Dame will have an automatic berth if it is in the top eight of the final BCS Standings.

The automatic berth is going to Utah.
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: KLin
If Oregon State loses to Oregon next week, will that increase the chances of Boise State grabbing an At-Large bid if they Beat Fresno State on Friday night?

Probably. If Oregon state loses USC gets the one and only bid from the Pac 10. If OSU wins and gets the Rose Bowl spot USC would surely claim an at-large bid meaning there would be one less to spare.

That's what I was wondering also. Boise's chances of getting an at-large can still be hurt if they only squeak out a win by Fresno State. It's probably going to be a blowout Friday night though. :(