Official - Canadian Dollar is now worth more than the American Dollar

episodic

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http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070723/dollar_gold.html?.v=6

This does not bode well for the American economy. Has there ever been a time the Canadian dollar was worth more? In a country that produces nothing (of consequence vs. what we import) - how will we ever keep our currency at a stable value?

Last night while watching the movie "Letters from Iwo Jima", the Japanese general was in awe of the American manufacturing might. He knew personally that war with the US was futile - just for the reason alone that we built over 6 millons cars a month at the time - yet, they could not get parts for a tank.

It just made me think, it sure is sad that we have lost our manufacturing might.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: episodic
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070723/dollar_gold.html?.v=6

This does not bode well for the American economy. Has there ever been a time the Canadian dollar was worth more? In a country that produces nothing (of consequence vs. what we import) - how will we ever keep our currency at a stable value?

Last night while watching the movie "Letters from Iwo Jima", the Japanese general was in awe of the American manufacturing might. He knew personally that war with the US was futile - just for the reason alone that we built over 6 millons cars a month at the time - yet, they could not get parts for a tank.

It just made me think, it sure is sad that we have lost our manufacturing might.

Welcome to P&N

According to the Republican supporters in here we don't need manufacturing.
 

Vic

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And in related news, it now costs Ford more to build a truck in Ontario than in Kansas City.
 

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Originally posted by: episodic
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070723/dollar_gold.html?.v=6

This does not bode well for the American economy. Has there ever been a time the Canadian dollar was worth more? In a country that produces nothing (of consequence vs. what we import) - how will we ever keep our currency at a stable value?

Last night while watching the movie "Letters from Iwo Jima", the Japanese general was in awe of the American manufacturing might. He knew personally that war with the US was futile - just for the reason alone that we built over 6 millons cars a month at the time - yet, they could not get parts for a tank.

It just made me think, it sure is sad that we have lost our manufacturing might.

The Canadian dollar is NOT worth more than the USD.

1.04 Canadian for 1.00 US.

Compare this with a stronger currency such as the Euro (1.38USD for 1.00 Euro) or the GBP (2.06 USD for 1.00 GBP).
 

jpeyton

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Repost.

And as someone else mentioned, the Canadian dollar has not surpassed the US dollar...yet. Read the article.
 

RedChief

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Of course, a low valued American Dollar makes investing in the US by foreigners even that much cheaper.
 

2Xtreme21

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As I said before, it's GREAT for big business, but rapes the consumer up the ass.
 

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Originally posted by: RedChief
Of course, a low valued American Dollar makes investing in the US by foreigners even that much cheaper.

And then Micheal Moore will complain when the Saudis own so much stuff!

This will help us compete with and eventually bury China!!!
 

GrGr

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
First "It's Bush's false war's fault" comment woohoo

Clearly the war has a huge impact on US debt and the dying dollar.

Goldman Sachs guru warns of war-debt failure

Is America becoming a global credit risk? How to get back on track
By Paul B. Farrell, MarketWatch
Last Update: 7:02 PM ET Jul 23, 2007


ARROYO GRANDE, Calif. (MarketWatch) -- Subprimes downgraded. Will Moody's downgrade America's debt next? Actually, that's already happening; our credit rating is collapsing with the dollar.

Foreign banks are dumping dollar reserves,
while we gorge on cheap toys and bad pet food. Actually, our biggest "terrorist" threat is internal: Distorted values are downgrading our nation's "creditworthiness." We're like out-of-control kids with stolen credit cards, spending our future with no plans to repay.

Recently Robert Hormats, vice chairman of Goldman Sachs (International), appeared before the U.S. House Budget Committee to "discuss an issue of great economic, financial and national security importance to our country -- the growing dependence of the United States on foreign capital." Currently we import $1 trillion new debt annually, with no repayment plans. That's a historic break from over two centuries of American policy.

Hormats was in Washington with warnings from his brilliant new book, "The Price of Liberty: Paying for America's Wars." He traces the history of American wartime financing from the Revolution through the War of 1812, the Civil War, the two World Wars and the

Cold War to the present.

Conclusion: "One central, constant theme emerges: sound national finances have proved to be indispensable to the country's military strength" and long-term national security.
1776 to Iraq, national security demands fiscal responsibility.

America's long tradition of war financing began with Alexander Hamilton: "In January 1790, Hamilton, by then the country's Treasury secretary, confronted the American people with a stark fact: the nation had run up a huge debt fighting the Revolutionary War. This debt, he wrote, was the 'price of liberty,' and the new government had to repay it. The future creditworthiness of the United States, and ultimately the security and ability to finance future wars, would depend on how successfully and faithfully this was done."
Hamilton's principles have kept America's credit strong through every war since the Revolution ... until the Iraq War. Since then, "although U.S. leaders have warned that the war against terrorism could last for decades, the country lacks a multidecade financial strategy to address the challenge."

Iraq tossed the lessons of history out the window. Hormats says that despite the oft-repeated remark that 9/11 "changed everything, in the area of fiscal policy, however, it changed nothing. The country is pursuing a pre-9/11 fiscal policy in a post-9/11 world." That assessment comes from someone who worked inside Washington for over a decade before joining Goldman Sachs in the 1980s.

Unsustainable debt is weakening national security

America's new faith-based guns-and-butter policy is hurting both guns and butter.
The war is costing us $12 billion a month. Hormats examined the Congressional Budget Office's projections for domestic costs: "In 2006, spending on Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and interest on the federal debt amounted to just under 60% of government revenues" and "if they continue on their current path, they will account for two-thirds by 2015."

Social security from $550 billion to $960 billion
Medicare from $372 billion to over $900 billion
Medicaid from $181 billion to $390 billion

Worse yet, these commitments will continue skyrocketing in later decades. The CBO projects the federal debt rising from 40% of GDP to 100% in the next 25 years: "Continuing on this unsustainable path will gradually erode, if not suddenly damage, our economy, our standard of living, and ultimately our national security."

Hormats warns of the risks of this gross departure from Hamilton's principles: "Of late, the precedents and experiences of past generations have been cast aside. The 9/11 attacks were seen by many legislators as a license to spend more money on nonsecurity programs, and Americans have not been called to make sacrifices. Tax cuts and spending increased on politically popular security-irrelevant domestic programs have been enacted as if there were no expensive defense programs to be funded."

etc.

Very simply under this uber economy the US is going broke. No money no weapons. No weapons no military.

 

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Originally posted by: GrGr
Originally posted by: blackangst1
First "It's Bush's false war's fault" comment woohoo

Clearly the war has a huge impact on US debt and the dying dollar.
Clearly, but you can't expect our soldiers to learn the details of the war's economic impact.

Their job is to shoot first, ask questions never.
 

GrGr

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: GrGr
Originally posted by: blackangst1
First "It's Bush's false war's fault" comment woohoo

Clearly the war has a huge impact on US debt and the dying dollar.
Clearly, but you can't expect our soldiers to learn the details of the war's economic impact.

Their job is to shoot first, ask questions never.



The military is a tool of the state.

The war is supposed to fix the economic woes of the US. A large part of US debt is from energy imports. If the US can incorporate the energy in the ME (Iraq, Iran, the Caspian basin etc) into the economic loop of the US (instead of seeing the oil going to competitors like China) the energy debt could become manageable again.

The US is using 25 % of the worlds resources. When the US can no longer pay for it, what happens then? The Bush administrations answer is to pre-empt this question and simply grab this energy and make it part of the US empire and it's sphere of interest.

This is why the US is so desperate to stay (and to hammer thru the oil laws in Iraq, see the new strategy put forward by Crocker and Petreus - it is basically a plan to give the Iraqi government time to implement the oil law). So far the natives of Iraq are proving recalcitrant to the idea of subsiding the US empire.



 

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Originally posted by: GrGr
So far the natives of Iraq are proving recalcitrant to the idea of subsiding the US empire.
As they should. If we want oil, we have to pay up like everyone else.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: episodic
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070723/dollar_gold.html?.v=6

This does not bode well for the American economy. Has there ever been a time the Canadian dollar was worth more? In a country that produces nothing (of consequence vs. what we import) - how will we ever keep our currency at a stable value?

Last night while watching the movie "Letters from Iwo Jima", the Japanese general was in awe of the American manufacturing might. He knew personally that war with the US was futile - just for the reason alone that we built over 6 millons cars a month at the time - yet, they could not get parts for a tank.

It just made me think, it sure is sad that we have lost our manufacturing might.

The $CDN was worth more during a period in the 60's and 70's.
 

GrGr

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Originally posted by: episodic
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070723/dollar_gold.html?.v=6

This does not bode well for the American economy. Has there ever been a time the Canadian dollar was worth more? In a country that produces nothing (of consequence vs. what we import) - how will we ever keep our currency at a stable value?

Last night while watching the movie "Letters from Iwo Jima", the Japanese general was in awe of the American manufacturing might. He knew personally that war with the US was futile - just for the reason alone that we built over 6 millons cars a month at the time - yet, they could not get parts for a tank.

It just made me think, it sure is sad that we have lost our manufacturing might.

Yep. And that is why China is growing so fast. China is now the workhouse of the world. I'll never forget an interview I saw with a Chinese businessman/manager who basically said he couldn't believe how stupid the west was for sending all their factories to China.

The British pound is also at the strongest it has been against the dollar since the days of raging hyperinflation in the US.

Laughably Paulson, the US Treasury secretary said the other day that the US supports a strong dollar policy.

 

GrGr

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: episodic
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070723/dollar_gold.html?.v=6

This does not bode well for the American economy. Has there ever been a time the Canadian dollar was worth more? In a country that produces nothing (of consequence vs. what we import) - how will we ever keep our currency at a stable value?

Last night while watching the movie "Letters from Iwo Jima", the Japanese general was in awe of the American manufacturing might. He knew personally that war with the US was futile - just for the reason alone that we built over 6 millons cars a month at the time - yet, they could not get parts for a tank.

It just made me think, it sure is sad that we have lost our manufacturing might.

The $CDN was worth more during a period in the 60's and 70's.

You mean during the time of the Vietnam war and the days of hyperinflation in the US.
 

StageLeft

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I'll never forget an interview I saw with a Chinese businessman/manager who basically said he couldn't believe how stupid the west was for sending all their factories to China.
I'll can't believe how little he understands about western business. It's not state run. Businesses are not going to deliberately lose potential profit by keeping something domestic when they can send it overseas.
 

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Originally posted by: GrGr
Yep. And that is why China is growing so fast. China is now the workhouse of the world. I'll never forget an interview I saw with a Chinese businessman/manager who basically said he couldn't believe how stupid the west was for sending all their factories to China.

This statement is so true. What these business people in this country do not understand is, we need to keep a certain percentage of manufacturing jobs in our own country to keep the other countries honest when it comes to negotiations. You wait and see, once China (or Asia all together with some cartel or something) has a strangle hold on manufacturing (getting pretty damn close now) they will then start to dictate terms to us.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: GrGr
Originally posted by: blackangst1
First "It's Bush's false war's fault" comment woohoo

Clearly the war has a huge impact on US debt and the dying dollar.


Their job is to shoot first, ask questions never.


So now your an expert on foreign rules of engagement? :roll:
 

GrGr

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I'll never forget an interview I saw with a Chinese businessman/manager who basically said he couldn't believe how stupid the west was for sending all their factories to China.
I'll can't believe how little he understands about western business. It's not state run. Businesses are not going to deliberately lose potential profit by keeping something domestic when they can send it overseas.

The Chinese understand this perfectly.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: episodic
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070723/dollar_gold.html?.v=6

This does not bode well for the American economy. Has there ever been a time the Canadian dollar was worth more? In a country that produces nothing (of consequence vs. what we import) - how will we ever keep our currency at a stable value?

Last night while watching the movie "Letters from Iwo Jima", the Japanese general was in awe of the American manufacturing might. He knew personally that war with the US was futile - just for the reason alone that we built over 6 millons cars a month at the time - yet, they could not get parts for a tank.

It just made me think, it sure is sad that we have lost our manufacturing might.


According to the Republican supporters in here we don't need manufacturing.


Nice generalization. :thumbsdown:
 

HombrePequeno

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Well seeing as how gas prices are so high and Canada has tons of oil, it's no wonder their currency is strengthening.
 

GrGr

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Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Well seeing as how gas prices are so high and Canada has tons of oil, it's no wonder their currency is strengthening.

ALL major currencies, apart from the Yen, are strengthening against the dollar.

 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: GrGr
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I'll never forget an interview I saw with a Chinese businessman/manager who basically said he couldn't believe how stupid the west was for sending all their factories to China.
I'll can't believe how little he understands about western business. It's not state run. Businesses are not going to deliberately lose potential profit by keeping something domestic when they can send it overseas.

The Chinese understand this perfectly.
The Chinese in general do; that guy clearly does not.