OFFICIAL ***BOSTON RED SOX vs. OAKLAND A'S*** Division Series Trash Talking Thread

Led Zeppelin

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Might as well start it up now.
Come Wednesday, Sox will begin the domination to the World Series!
 

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Even though I am an A's fan I have to concede that the Sox match up well against this years A's team with their Powerful Offense and their Pitching..well until Duk Fuk Kim comes in and starts serving up pitchs right over the middle of the plate. Frankly if I was Little I would leave that bastard off of the Post Season Roster. Anyway, this years A's team isn't playing as well as last years so the Bosox have a pretty good chance to move on. I think the Series to watch is the Twinkies and the Yanks. If the Twinkies can get past the Yanks they could go all the way to the WS.


If the A's don't take it I will be rooting for the Bosox to take it all just so I can enjoy the party of the century here in Boston!
 

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Haha, I agree, Kim serves up meatballs right down the middle, even Stevie Wonder would be able to hit those, BUT they're paying him way to much not to have him in the roster. Who knows, maybe he's overcome his fear of the NYY's (oh hell who am I kidding?). I hope to God if the Yanks and Sox end up in the ALCS, and it comes down to a save situation, bottom of the 9th, Little goes with Williamson or someone else BESIDES Kim.

 

SP33Demon

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Eh, I may as well move my response from the Pedro thread to this one!:

"A's pitchers are very good? LMAO... the only reason Zito won the Cy Young last year was b/c Pedro was ROBBED (I have posted this in numerous other threads) and you could even argue Lowe was better than Zito. The only reason Zito won was b/c the A's strung that 17 or 18 game winning streak at the end of the year. Statistically, the only thing Zito beat Pedro in was wins, which we all know is a very poor way to judge someone...

What has Zito done this year? Sht! Hudsen? lol, if you're going to be "very good", shouldn't you at least be in the top 10 in fantasy pitchers? Funny, I don't see ANY A's pitchers there. Pedro made it with less than 200 innings pitched at #7 which is amazing. Mulder, he's out for the season if you want to talk injuries. When any of the A's pitchers lead the league in K's on less than 200 innings pitched and lead the league in ERA, then come talk to me.

The latest issue of Sporting News predicts Boston/San Fran WS... they made a good point that good starting pitchers during the regular season don't mean Sht in the postseason unless you're a power pitcher, like Randy and Curt. Recent World Series have been good indicators that good starting pitching will not beat great hitting, only power pitchers can do that (your real superstars). This is why the A's don't scare me at all, Boston's hitting should smother them b/c they don't have any good power pitchers. The Cubs and Marlins, on the other hand, are scary if they get in (Wood and Prior can shut down any offense in baseball, anywhere/anytime)."

Oh yeah, and Sox will sweep, Pedro won't even have to pitch game 4!!!
 

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I dont think Williamson is the answer. That was a horrible trade. His ERA is 7.00 since coming to the Sox. The Red Sox bullpen is a mess. Well and if you take out Pedro ( which the A's hit well) the roation isnt so hot either.

It will be a good series, but I think the ine player who will hurt the Red Sox the most isnt on either roster... the Bambino.

:evil:



Go A's
 

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Eh, I may as well move my response from the Pedro thread to this one!:

"A's pitchers are very good? LMAO... the only reason Zito won the Cy Young last year was b/c Pedro was ROBBED (I have posted this in numerous other threads) and you could even argue Lowe was better than Zito. The only reason Zito won was b/c the A's strung that 17 or 18 game winning streak at the end of the year. Statistically, the only thing Zito beat Pedro in was wins, which we all know is a very poor way to judge someone...

What has Zito done this year? Sht! Hudsen? lol, if you're going to be "very good", shouldn't you at least be in the top 10 in fantasy pitchers? Funny, I don't see ANY A's pitchers there. Pedro made it with less than 200 innings pitched at #7 which is amazing. Mulder, he's out for the season if you want to talk injuries. When any of the A's pitchers lead the league in K's on less than 200 innings pitched and lead the league in ERA, then come talk to me.

The latest issue of Sporting News predicts Boston/San Fran WS... they made a good point that good starting pitchers during the regular season don't mean Sht in the postseason unless you're a power pitcher, like Randy and Curt. Recent World Series have been good indicators that good starting pitching will not beat great hitting, only power pitchers can do that (your real superstars). This is why the A's don't scare me at all, Boston's hitting should smother them b/c they don't have any good power pitchers. The Cubs and Marlins, on the other hand, are scary if they get in (Wood and Prior can shut down any offense in baseball, anywhere/anytime)."

Oh yeah, and Sox will sweep, Pedro won't even have to pitch game 4!!!
LOL!!! Might as well cancel the series as it's already been determined that the Bosox are going to win it all. Of course funny things happen along the way. Remember Buckner?

 

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Eh, I may as well move my response from the Pedro thread to this one!:

"A's pitchers are very good? LMAO... the only reason Zito won the Cy Young last year was b/c Pedro was ROBBED (I have posted this in numerous other threads) and you could even argue Lowe was better than Zito. The only reason Zito won was b/c the A's strung that 17 or 18 game winning streak at the end of the year. Statistically, the only thing Zito beat Pedro in was wins, which we all know is a very poor way to judge someone...

What has Zito done this year? Sht! Hudsen? lol, if you're going to be "very good", shouldn't you at least be in the top 10 in fantasy pitchers? Funny, I don't see ANY A's pitchers there. Pedro made it with less than 200 innings pitched at #7 which is amazing. Mulder, he's out for the season if you want to talk injuries. When any of the A's pitchers lead the league in K's on less than 200 innings pitched and lead the league in ERA, then come talk to me.

The latest issue of Sporting News predicts Boston/San Fran WS... they made a good point that good starting pitchers during the regular season don't mean Sht in the postseason unless you're a power pitcher, like Randy and Curt. Recent World Series have been good indicators that good starting pitching will not beat great hitting, only power pitchers can do that (your real superstars). This is why the A's don't scare me at all, Boston's hitting should smother them b/c they don't have any good power pitchers. The Cubs and Marlins, on the other hand, are scary if they get in (Wood and Prior can shut down any offense in baseball, anywhere/anytime)."

Oh yeah, and Sox will sweep, Pedro won't even have to pitch game 4!!!

God i hate agreeing with you but you are right on almost every point.

power pitchers win playoffs not finesse pitcher, you only have to look as far as smoltz vs glavine and maddux in the playoffs to know that.

pitching over hitting? angels proved you can win it with hitting and semi decent pitching, we'll see.

wins vs era, OBVIOUSLY wins is a bad stat to judge pitchers on.

Pedro is the best pitcher of his generation.
 

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Unfortunately, I remember Buckner. Fvcking idiot. Stanley too. My heart has been with the Sox ever since I started following baseball at 5 years old, so I'm biased here. I saw the Pats win the Super Bowl two years ago, now it's the Sox turn. I need to see them win the Series before I die. That too much to ask?

 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Eh, I may as well move my response from the Pedro thread to this one!:

"A's pitchers are very good? LMAO... the only reason Zito won the Cy Young last year was b/c Pedro was ROBBED (I have posted this in numerous other threads) and you could even argue Lowe was better than Zito. The only reason Zito won was b/c the A's strung that 17 or 18 game winning streak at the end of the year. Statistically, the only thing Zito beat Pedro in was wins, which we all know is a very poor way to judge someone...

What has Zito done this year? Sht! Hudsen? lol, if you're going to be "very good", shouldn't you at least be in the top 10 in fantasy pitchers? Funny, I don't see ANY A's pitchers there. Pedro made it with less than 200 innings pitched at #7 which is amazing. Mulder, he's out for the season if you want to talk injuries. When any of the A's pitchers lead the league in K's on less than 200 innings pitched and lead the league in ERA, then come talk to me.

The latest issue of Sporting News predicts Boston/San Fran WS... they made a good point that good starting pitchers during the regular season don't mean Sht in the postseason unless you're a power pitcher, like Randy and Curt. Recent World Series have been good indicators that good starting pitching will not beat great hitting, only power pitchers can do that (your real superstars). This is why the A's don't scare me at all, Boston's hitting should smother them b/c they don't have any good power pitchers. The Cubs and Marlins, on the other hand, are scary if they get in (Wood and Prior can shut down any offense in baseball, anywhere/anytime)."

Oh yeah, and Sox will sweep, Pedro won't even have to pitch game 4!!!

God i hate agreeing with you but you are right on almost every point.

power pitchers win playoffs not finesse pitcher, you only have to look as far as smoltz vs glavine and maddux in the playoffs to know that.

pitching over hitting? angels proved you can win it with hitting and semi decent pitching, we'll see.

wins vs era, OBVIOUSLY wins is a bad stat to judge pitchers on.

Pedro is the best pitcher of his generation.

Yup, that's why they want him pitching games 1 and 4! From the Boston Herald today: "The Red Sox [stats, schedule] are also toying with a setup that would have Pedro Martinez [stats, news] pitching in Games 1 and 4, Derek Lowe [stats, news] in Games 2 and 5, and Tim Wakefield [stats, news] pitching Game 3, according to a club source yesterday.

Such a setup would require both Martinez and Lowe to pitch on three days' rest, which in Martinez' case would be especially notable, considering how carefully his stamina and starts have been monitored the last couple of years."

I don't know, D.Lowe has only like a 6-5 record on the road with a high ERA, and is 11-2 at home with a 2 something ERA. If game 2 is played away (which I've heard it is), wouldn't Sox want Wakefield instead?
 

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(if) You've got lots of confidence in the Sox. You must not have been a fan for very long. ;)

Kim in 2003 <> Buckner in 1986?

I think so.

If it gets to a point where he decides if we move on or not, he needs to NOT be an option.

 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
LOL!!! Might as well cancel the series as it's already been determined that the Bosox are going to win it all. Of course funny things happen along the way. Remember Buckner?

Yup, on the Orioles station last night they replayed the Buckner mishap and the Bucky Dent homerun. Hmmm maybe the O's announcers were compensating for something?

They were discussing Buckner and said that he was actually an EXCEPTIONAL fielder that year, but he was hampered by an ankle injury. The only reason McNamara had him out there was so that he would be on the field with the team to celebrate the win, he usually put in someone else for defense during the regular season. Also, the ball did hit a divot or something in the ground that pushed it right, something that Bill could not have foreseen. Nevertheless, it was slow enough where he should have had his glove down lol... sux ass, but what are u gonna do. I think we could safely say that the Mets were not the better team that year statistically and they won it on luck.
 

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Eh, I may as well move my response from the Pedro thread to this one!:

"A's pitchers are very good? LMAO... the only reason Zito won the Cy Young last year was b/c Pedro was ROBBED (I have posted this in numerous other threads) and you could even argue Lowe was better than Zito. The only reason Zito won was b/c the A's strung that 17 or 18 game winning streak at the end of the year. Statistically, the only thing Zito beat Pedro in was wins, which we all know is a very poor way to judge someone...

What has Zito done this year? Sht! Hudsen? lol, if you're going to be "very good", shouldn't you at least be in the top 10 in fantasy pitchers? Funny, I don't see ANY A's pitchers there. Pedro made it with less than 200 innings pitched at #7 which is amazing. Mulder, he's out for the season if you want to talk injuries. When any of the A's pitchers lead the league in K's on less than 200 innings pitched and lead the league in ERA, then come talk to me.

The latest issue of Sporting News predicts Boston/San Fran WS... they made a good point that good starting pitchers during the regular season don't mean Sht in the postseason unless you're a power pitcher, like Randy and Curt. Recent World Series have been good indicators that good starting pitching will not beat great hitting, only power pitchers can do that (your real superstars). This is why the A's don't scare me at all, Boston's hitting should smother them b/c they don't have any good power pitchers. The Cubs and Marlins, on the other hand, are scary if they get in (Wood and Prior can shut down any offense in baseball, anywhere/anytime)."

Oh yeah, and Sox will sweep, Pedro won't even have to pitch game 4!!!

Sure, Pedro is better than any Oakland starter but he's only one pitcher. Oakland has 3, if not 4 pretty consistent/good starters. Hudson, Zito, Mulder, Lilly, and even rookie Harden. Who do the red sox have besides Pedro? Not one pitcher who has been holding his own. Derek Lowe? HA! He's good, I agree, but he's really stinking it up this year. Wakefield? Suppan? Burkett? None of them even compare with the Oakland pithcers. And Oakland's closer, although I hate him because he has 4 or 5 blown saves of Tim Hudson's this year, he's still a great closer. If Foulke hadn't blown those 4 or 5 saves that Hudson was pitching Hudson would be a 20 game winner right now.

So the bottom line is that Boston has 1 better starter, while A's have 4. Although I could care less, I'm rooting for the A's.
 

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Originally posted by: cmdavid
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Eh, I may as well move my response from the Pedro thread to this one!:

"A's pitchers are very good? LMAO... the only reason Zito won the Cy Young last year was b/c Pedro was ROBBED (I have posted this in numerous other threads) and you could even argue Lowe was better than Zito. The only reason Zito won was b/c the A's strung that 17 or 18 game winning streak at the end of the year. Statistically, the only thing Zito beat Pedro in was wins, which we all know is a very poor way to judge someone...

What has Zito done this year? Sht! Hudsen? lol, if you're going to be "very good", shouldn't you at least be in the top 10 in fantasy pitchers? Funny, I don't see ANY A's pitchers there. Pedro made it with less than 200 innings pitched at #7 which is amazing. Mulder, he's out for the season if you want to talk injuries. When any of the A's pitchers lead the league in K's on less than 200 innings pitched and lead the league in ERA, then come talk to me.

The latest issue of Sporting News predicts Boston/San Fran WS... they made a good point that good starting pitchers during the regular season don't mean Sht in the postseason unless you're a power pitcher, like Randy and Curt. Recent World Series have been good indicators that good starting pitching will not beat great hitting, only power pitchers can do that (your real superstars). This is why the A's don't scare me at all, Boston's hitting should smother them b/c they don't have any good power pitchers. The Cubs and Marlins, on the other hand, are scary if they get in (Wood and Prior can shut down any offense in baseball, anywhere/anytime)."

Oh yeah, and Sox will sweep, Pedro won't even have to pitch game 4!!!

Sure, Pedro is better than any Oakland starter but he's only one pitcher. Oakland has 3, if not 4 pretty consistent/good starters. Hudson, Zito, Mulder, Lilly, and even rookie Harden. Who do the red sox have besides Pedro? Not one pitcher who has been holding his own. Derek Lowe? HA! He's good, I agree, but he's really stinking it up this year. Wakefield? Suppan? Burkett? None of them even compare with the Oakland pithcers. And Oakland's closer, although I hate him because he has 4 or 5 blown saves of Tim Hudson's this year, he's still a great closer. If Foulke hadn't blown those 4 or 5 saves that Hudson was pitching Hudson would be a 20 game winner right now.

So the bottom line is that Boston has 1 better starter, while A's have 4. Although I could care less, I'm rooting for the A's.

some would say that the difference in starting pitching is easily balanced out by boston's superior Offense.

 

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: cmdavid
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Eh, I may as well move my response from the Pedro thread to this one!:

"A's pitchers are very good? LMAO... the only reason Zito won the Cy Young last year was b/c Pedro was ROBBED (I have posted this in numerous other threads) and you could even argue Lowe was better than Zito. The only reason Zito won was b/c the A's strung that 17 or 18 game winning streak at the end of the year. Statistically, the only thing Zito beat Pedro in was wins, which we all know is a very poor way to judge someone...

What has Zito done this year? Sht! Hudsen? lol, if you're going to be "very good", shouldn't you at least be in the top 10 in fantasy pitchers? Funny, I don't see ANY A's pitchers there. Pedro made it with less than 200 innings pitched at #7 which is amazing. Mulder, he's out for the season if you want to talk injuries. When any of the A's pitchers lead the league in K's on less than 200 innings pitched and lead the league in ERA, then come talk to me.

The latest issue of Sporting News predicts Boston/San Fran WS... they made a good point that good starting pitchers during the regular season don't mean Sht in the postseason unless you're a power pitcher, like Randy and Curt. Recent World Series have been good indicators that good starting pitching will not beat great hitting, only power pitchers can do that (your real superstars). This is why the A's don't scare me at all, Boston's hitting should smother them b/c they don't have any good power pitchers. The Cubs and Marlins, on the other hand, are scary if they get in (Wood and Prior can shut down any offense in baseball, anywhere/anytime)."

Oh yeah, and Sox will sweep, Pedro won't even have to pitch game 4!!!

Sure, Pedro is better than any Oakland starter but he's only one pitcher. Oakland has 3, if not 4 pretty consistent/good starters. Hudson, Zito, Mulder, Lilly, and even rookie Harden. Who do the red sox have besides Pedro? Not one pitcher who has been holding his own. Derek Lowe? HA! He's good, I agree, but he's really stinking it up this year. Wakefield? Suppan? Burkett? None of them even compare with the Oakland pithcers. And Oakland's closer, although I hate him because he has 4 or 5 blown saves of Tim Hudson's this year, he's still a great closer. If Foulke hadn't blown those 4 or 5 saves that Hudson was pitching Hudson would be a 20 game winner right now.

So the bottom line is that Boston has 1 better starter, while A's have 4. Although I could care less, I'm rooting for the A's.

some would say that the difference in starting pitching is easily balanced out by boston's superior Offense.
What was Bostons record against the A's this year?
 

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Originally posted by: cmdavid
Originally posted by: SP33DemonSo the bottom line is that Boston has 1 better starter, while A's have 4. Although I could care less, I'm rooting for the A's.

5 Game series, Besides Pedro... Lowe you discount too quickly. That's a good chance at 2 games (about equal to the A's I'd say). Wakefield is often discounted, but, has pitched quite a few good games this season. Anyway, I think the A's have better pitching, but it could go either way. All we need is 3.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: cmdavid
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Eh, I may as well move my response from the Pedro thread to this one!:

"A's pitchers are very good? LMAO... the only reason Zito won the Cy Young last year was b/c Pedro was ROBBED (I have posted this in numerous other threads) and you could even argue Lowe was better than Zito. The only reason Zito won was b/c the A's strung that 17 or 18 game winning streak at the end of the year. Statistically, the only thing Zito beat Pedro in was wins, which we all know is a very poor way to judge someone...

What has Zito done this year? Sht! Hudsen? lol, if you're going to be "very good", shouldn't you at least be in the top 10 in fantasy pitchers? Funny, I don't see ANY A's pitchers there. Pedro made it with less than 200 innings pitched at #7 which is amazing. Mulder, he's out for the season if you want to talk injuries. When any of the A's pitchers lead the league in K's on less than 200 innings pitched and lead the league in ERA, then come talk to me.

The latest issue of Sporting News predicts Boston/San Fran WS... they made a good point that good starting pitchers during the regular season don't mean Sht in the postseason unless you're a power pitcher, like Randy and Curt. Recent World Series have been good indicators that good starting pitching will not beat great hitting, only power pitchers can do that (your real superstars). This is why the A's don't scare me at all, Boston's hitting should smother them b/c they don't have any good power pitchers. The Cubs and Marlins, on the other hand, are scary if they get in (Wood and Prior can shut down any offense in baseball, anywhere/anytime)."

Oh yeah, and Sox will sweep, Pedro won't even have to pitch game 4!!!

Sure, Pedro is better than any Oakland starter but he's only one pitcher. Oakland has 3, if not 4 pretty consistent/good starters. Hudson, Zito, Mulder, Lilly, and even rookie Harden. Who do the red sox have besides Pedro? Not one pitcher who has been holding his own. Derek Lowe? HA! He's good, I agree, but he's really stinking it up this year. Wakefield? Suppan? Burkett? None of them even compare with the Oakland pithcers. And Oakland's closer, although I hate him because he has 4 or 5 blown saves of Tim Hudson's this year, he's still a great closer. If Foulke hadn't blown those 4 or 5 saves that Hudson was pitching Hudson would be a 20 game winner right now.

So the bottom line is that Boston has 1 better starter, while A's have 4. Although I could care less, I'm rooting for the A's.

some would say that the difference in starting pitching is easily balanced out by boston's superior Offense.

Yup, 5 more doubles and they have the major league season record. They already have extra base hits and total bases record, and last I heard they were a couple of percentage points ahead of the 1927 Yankees(Ruth60HRs, Gehrig, Muesel, Lazzeri - WS champions)- in SLG%. This team is going to Cowboy Up on the A's pitching in a big way! Pedro will shut em down for 2 games, so that's 2 wins right there ;)
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: cmdavid
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Eh, I may as well move my response from the Pedro thread to this one!:

"A's pitchers are very good? LMAO... the only reason Zito won the Cy Young last year was b/c Pedro was ROBBED (I have posted this in numerous other threads) and you could even argue Lowe was better than Zito. The only reason Zito won was b/c the A's strung that 17 or 18 game winning streak at the end of the year. Statistically, the only thing Zito beat Pedro in was wins, which we all know is a very poor way to judge someone...

What has Zito done this year? Sht! Hudsen? lol, if you're going to be "very good", shouldn't you at least be in the top 10 in fantasy pitchers? Funny, I don't see ANY A's pitchers there. Pedro made it with less than 200 innings pitched at #7 which is amazing. Mulder, he's out for the season if you want to talk injuries. When any of the A's pitchers lead the league in K's on less than 200 innings pitched and lead the league in ERA, then come talk to me.

The latest issue of Sporting News predicts Boston/San Fran WS... they made a good point that good starting pitchers during the regular season don't mean Sht in the postseason unless you're a power pitcher, like Randy and Curt. Recent World Series have been good indicators that good starting pitching will not beat great hitting, only power pitchers can do that (your real superstars). This is why the A's don't scare me at all, Boston's hitting should smother them b/c they don't have any good power pitchers. The Cubs and Marlins, on the other hand, are scary if they get in (Wood and Prior can shut down any offense in baseball, anywhere/anytime)."

Oh yeah, and Sox will sweep, Pedro won't even have to pitch game 4!!!

Sure, Pedro is better than any Oakland starter but he's only one pitcher. Oakland has 3, if not 4 pretty consistent/good starters. Hudson, Zito, Mulder, Lilly, and even rookie Harden. Who do the red sox have besides Pedro? Not one pitcher who has been holding his own. Derek Lowe? HA! He's good, I agree, but he's really stinking it up this year. Wakefield? Suppan? Burkett? None of them even compare with the Oakland pithcers. And Oakland's closer, although I hate him because he has 4 or 5 blown saves of Tim Hudson's this year, he's still a great closer. If Foulke hadn't blown those 4 or 5 saves that Hudson was pitching Hudson would be a 20 game winner right now.

So the bottom line is that Boston has 1 better starter, while A's have 4. Although I could care less, I'm rooting for the A's.

some would say that the difference in starting pitching is easily balanced out by boston's superior Offense.
What was Bostons record against the A's this year?


A's are up on the Sox for the series, 4-3, ironically, it was 2-2 in oakland and 2-1 in boston.
 

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Oakland A's are the master of choking in the first round when it comes to the postseason. Don't get your hopes up.

Red Sox, brand new team this year, brand new GM, manager, roster and an offensive not to be messed with.

GO RED SOX!

 

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: cmdavid
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Eh, I may as well move my response from the Pedro thread to this one!:

"A's pitchers are very good? LMAO... the only reason Zito won the Cy Young last year was b/c Pedro was ROBBED (I have posted this in numerous other threads) and you could even argue Lowe was better than Zito. The only reason Zito won was b/c the A's strung that 17 or 18 game winning streak at the end of the year. Statistically, the only thing Zito beat Pedro in was wins, which we all know is a very poor way to judge someone...

What has Zito done this year? Sht! Hudsen? lol, if you're going to be "very good", shouldn't you at least be in the top 10 in fantasy pitchers? Funny, I don't see ANY A's pitchers there. Pedro made it with less than 200 innings pitched at #7 which is amazing. Mulder, he's out for the season if you want to talk injuries. When any of the A's pitchers lead the league in K's on less than 200 innings pitched and lead the league in ERA, then come talk to me.

The latest issue of Sporting News predicts Boston/San Fran WS... they made a good point that good starting pitchers during the regular season don't mean Sht in the postseason unless you're a power pitcher, like Randy and Curt. Recent World Series have been good indicators that good starting pitching will not beat great hitting, only power pitchers can do that (your real superstars). This is why the A's don't scare me at all, Boston's hitting should smother them b/c they don't have any good power pitchers. The Cubs and Marlins, on the other hand, are scary if they get in (Wood and Prior can shut down any offense in baseball, anywhere/anytime)."

Oh yeah, and Sox will sweep, Pedro won't even have to pitch game 4!!!

Sure, Pedro is better than any Oakland starter but he's only one pitcher. Oakland has 3, if not 4 pretty consistent/good starters. Hudson, Zito, Mulder, Lilly, and even rookie Harden. Who do the red sox have besides Pedro? Not one pitcher who has been holding his own. Derek Lowe? HA! He's good, I agree, but he's really stinking it up this year. Wakefield? Suppan? Burkett? None of them even compare with the Oakland pithcers. And Oakland's closer, although I hate him because he has 4 or 5 blown saves of Tim Hudson's this year, he's still a great closer. If Foulke hadn't blown those 4 or 5 saves that Hudson was pitching Hudson would be a 20 game winner right now.

So the bottom line is that Boston has 1 better starter, while A's have 4. Although I could care less, I'm rooting for the A's.

some would say that the difference in starting pitching is easily balanced out by boston's superior Offense.

Yup, 5 more doubles and they have the major league season record. They already have extra base hits and total bases record, and last I heard they were a couple of percentage points ahead of the 1927 Yankees(Ruth60HRs, Gehrig, Muesel, Lazzeri - WS champions)- in SLG%. This team is going to Cowboy Up on the A's pitching in a big way! Pedro will shut em down for 2 games, so that's 2 wins right there ;)
You think Pedro can Pitch two complete games against them? Because once he is out I'd say the pitching advantage goes to the A's. You better hope there is no Virus going around. If I were the Red Sox Management I would seal Pedro in a clean room until it's his turn to pitch (Hey the author of this thread did invite trash talking didn't he?)

That said, being an A's fan from the time they first moved to the Bay Area I know what it's like to have a favorite team win a WS (4!!) Maybe this is your year Bosox Fans (you better hope)
 

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: cmdavid
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Eh, I may as well move my response from the Pedro thread to this one!:

"A's pitchers are very good? LMAO... the only reason Zito won the Cy Young last year was b/c Pedro was ROBBED (I have posted this in numerous other threads) and you could even argue Lowe was better than Zito. The only reason Zito won was b/c the A's strung that 17 or 18 game winning streak at the end of the year. Statistically, the only thing Zito beat Pedro in was wins, which we all know is a very poor way to judge someone...

What has Zito done this year? Sht! Hudsen? lol, if you're going to be "very good", shouldn't you at least be in the top 10 in fantasy pitchers? Funny, I don't see ANY A's pitchers there. Pedro made it with less than 200 innings pitched at #7 which is amazing. Mulder, he's out for the season if you want to talk injuries. When any of the A's pitchers lead the league in K's on less than 200 innings pitched and lead the league in ERA, then come talk to me.

The latest issue of Sporting News predicts Boston/San Fran WS... they made a good point that good starting pitchers during the regular season don't mean Sht in the postseason unless you're a power pitcher, like Randy and Curt. Recent World Series have been good indicators that good starting pitching will not beat great hitting, only power pitchers can do that (your real superstars). This is why the A's don't scare me at all, Boston's hitting should smother them b/c they don't have any good power pitchers. The Cubs and Marlins, on the other hand, are scary if they get in (Wood and Prior can shut down any offense in baseball, anywhere/anytime)."

Oh yeah, and Sox will sweep, Pedro won't even have to pitch game 4!!!

Sure, Pedro is better than any Oakland starter but he's only one pitcher. Oakland has 3, if not 4 pretty consistent/good starters. Hudson, Zito, Mulder, Lilly, and even rookie Harden. Who do the red sox have besides Pedro? Not one pitcher who has been holding his own. Derek Lowe? HA! He's good, I agree, but he's really stinking it up this year. Wakefield? Suppan? Burkett? None of them even compare with the Oakland pithcers. And Oakland's closer, although I hate him because he has 4 or 5 blown saves of Tim Hudson's this year, he's still a great closer. If Foulke hadn't blown those 4 or 5 saves that Hudson was pitching Hudson would be a 20 game winner right now.

So the bottom line is that Boston has 1 better starter, while A's have 4. Although I could care less, I'm rooting for the A's.

some would say that the difference in starting pitching is easily balanced out by boston's superior Offense.
What was Bostons record against the A's this year?


A's are up on the Sox for the series, 4-3, ironically, it was 2-2 in oakland and 2-1 in boston.
Ruh Roh!!!!

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: lager
Oakland A's are the master of choking in the first round when it comes to the postseason. Don't get your hopes up.

Red Sox, brand new team this year, brand new GM, manager, roster and an offensive not to be messed with.

GO RED SOX!
How many Post Season Series have the Bosox Won in the last 30 years? Talk about your Chokers!
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
What was Bostons record against the A's this year?

It was 4-3, Oakland. Pedro was beaten by Hudsen 4-0 (gave up 2 ER), but was on a pitchcount and came out in the 5th. Manny and Nomar were the only ones to get hits on Hudsen... The rematch of this will be game 1!!! The surging Sox vs the faltering Hudsen (his record that game was 11-4/2.51ERA, since then he has gone 5-3/2.70ERA)... it will be a great game for revenge... Sox will eat up finesse pitchers alive in the playoffs is my prediction...