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destrekor

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I was looking to get it, but then saw the Premium shit. Not sure if I should just get that or forsake all the expansions. :confused:

Honestly, if you feel like you'll probably be interested in at least one small portion of each DLC/Expansion Pack, I'd just pick up Premium.


Let me be up front about it: I'm not trying to sell you on the concept. BF3/EA have their problems, and each xpack will undoubtedly have things that many view negatively.

But personally, I've enjoyed what I've seen of BF3 thus far. CQ brought something different, but hell, it's almost like a different game.

I can already tell that Armored Kill will bring something different to the table. New weapons (that I may or may not use), new maps, and a new game mode available on those maps? Sure, I might not play on those exclusively for six months, but it's something I'll enjoy playing from time to time.

For me, I've already imagined each DLC will bring something I'll enjoy, be it a majority of the time or even once every 20 matches; the extra variety alone is enough imho.

If you feel the same way, hell, you might as well just pick up Premium.
Are they milking us for more than any of it is worth? Are they trying to get more out of the Battlefield franchise than they truly deserve? Are they giving us content that should have been available at launch?
That's for you to decide. I might answer Yes to some of those questions, but I already figured out that I would be buying each DLC. Four $15 xpacks for $50? It's a nice bit of change, and in the future I won't even feel like I spent anything for it. :D
Plus, you get a few decent perks for it all.

You also might feel like buying all the xpacks is not what you intend. If that is the case, don't buy Premium.

But honestly, if you feel you are even remotely interested in picking up each DLC release, at some point in time, I'd just get Premium. If for nothing else, at least you are screwing EA out of a few more bucks. :p

True, we really don't know what the last two xpacks will contain (Aftermath and Endgame), but I imagine I'll be at least remotely interested in what they offer. There are a few things about CQ I enjoy, and from what I've read/seen regarding Armored Kill, I am very excited.

In the end, it's your money, and I don't think it should be our decision whether you spend it or not.
 
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chucky2

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maybe the mg36?

I will have to try this then. A 5.5x or something would be really nice to have on the Recon rifles, the 6x on the machine guns should be close enough. There are spots on maps where a machine gun with a 6x could reasonably hold objectives by itself (Recon could already do it, by I nor my system are good enough combined to do that - more me).

Chuck
 

Zargon

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I will have to try this then. A 5.5x or something would be really nice to have on the Recon rifles, the 6x on the machine guns should be close enough. There are spots on maps where a machine gun with a 6x could reasonably hold objectives by itself (Recon could already do it, by I nor my system are good enough combined to do that - more me).

Chuck

I've had SOME sucess with the M4 and the 6x with bipod/suppressor on the larger maps like firestorm and kharg setting it at single shot
 

Grooveriding

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Battlefield 3 is monetized out the wazoo and it does suck, but, I had a much easier time paying for Premium than I would even paying to buy a base Call of Duty game (which i haven't since mw2).

If the game is half decent, I'll eat the charge because it's good enough to play. I think the whole Premium/constant DLC crap is bogus myself. Gaming is definitely changing for the worse these days. It's become a much bigger industry with a lot more money involved - cue nickel and diming wherever they can.

But, BF3 is a great game imo and I have 100s and 100s of hours into it, so I felt it was worth it. Even if EA is pillaging most for themselves, at least some is getting to Dice.
 
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Decision to buy Premium is simple.

Do you want to give EA money and justify their decision to nickle and dime consumers for terrible map packs.
 

chucky2

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I've had SOME sucess with the M4 and the 6x with bipod/suppressor on the larger maps like firestorm and kharg setting it at single shot

I wonder also with suppression how much nicer it'd be having the semi-auto plus larger ammo. With the M98B and smooth pull bolt, it's still a pretty long time between shots when say RU is taking the Gas Station on Kharg and no one else is around to stop them. It'd be nice on Hardcore where one doesn't need 3 shots to kill just one person to be able to rip shots off pretty accurately with a 6x scope and take down a whole team rushing the objective. Same for RU on Firestorm and Filling Station (well, harder on Filling Station but still).

Chuck
 

chucky2

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On my late lunch break, I tried Support for the first time (ever). Love having the machine gun and being able to drop ammo for myself. Just tried it on a Hardcore server with only 1 player on it. To me it looked like with the 6x or ACOG (whatever the 4x scope is) from the RU hill overlooking the Filling Station, a Support person could hold that down by theirself really easy. Get someone with Javs up there and it's all over. I think I'm going to have to option up the other types of players. I think I've been leaving a lot left untouched in this game just playing Recon.
 

GullyFoyle

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Battlelog - Battlelog and Server Update 10:00 CET, 9th of August

By: trydling

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Tomorrow we are bringing a server update and a Battlelog update with some minor additions.
This means that Battlelog will remain offline between 10:00 CET to 11:00 CET tomorrow on the 9th of August.
For the correct time in your time zone, follow this link: Time and Date.com

Server update:

- XP2 weapons were unavailable on unranked servers
- scoring was disabled altogether on unranked server

Battlelog:

- You can now accept/reject party invites
- Vote system has been fixed in polls
- Server browser shows the name of the current map
- User can now see if he/she has all unlocks for a vehicle in the Vehicle Stats page in the Unlocks section
 

chucky2

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Man I just played some Grand Bazzar with the machine gun, it was awesome!!! Way more fun than with the sniper rifles. I can't believe I've been missing this the whole time!
 
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GullyFoyle

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Neoseeker - Battlefield 3 loadouts now customizable via Battlelog

Sean Ridgeley - Thursday, August 9, 2012 7:37am (PST)

Rejoice, experimentalists

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While Battlefield 3 has improved quite a bit since its somewhat sorry state at launch, one critical flaw has remained: an awful weapon customization UI. The game has approximately ten bajillion weapon loadouts, but you never use most of them because it's just too much of a pain to navigate through the tedious and inefficient UI. And while PC players will often lay blame on consoles, I've spoken to the peasants and they say the same thing.

Anyway, the situation is finally improved today, though probably not in the way you expect. That is to say, there's a new and improved weapon customization UI, but it's via Battlelog. While in-game would be better, this is a hell of a lot better than nothing, and it's nice either way to be able to swap accessories in and out of game. Besides weapons and scopes and such, you can also choose between camos, specs, and gadgets, and also various vehicle specs.

The new feature isn't perfect: you still can't access drop down menus a la Bad Company 2, for example, but it's still massively efficient compared to what you're used to.

Reddit user "prostynick" praised the feature, and commented next he'd like to see specific setups you can save (e.g. aggressive recon and passive recon), to which DICE replied, "Yes, we're hoping to add more features; this is just the first iteration."

Hit the source and click the new Loadout icon at the top to try it out for yourself.

Neoseeker - DICE "looking at" Battlefield 3 Gunmaster weapon options

Sean Ridgeley - Wednesday, August 8, 2012 7:49am (PST)

Finally, some replay value

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One of the main complaints I levied at the Battlefield 3: Close Quarters DLC in my review was that Gunmaster weapons are set in stone. That is to say, the weapons you swap between in each round are the exact same every time, which gets old real fast.

At least some of the community seems to agree the mode is limited on replay value as a result, which thankfully developer DICE has taken into account; global Battlefield community manager Daniel "zh1nt0" Matros says the studio is today "looking at giving admins more control what weapon list your gunmaster can run".

There is no ETA on when this might happen, but it's good to know it's being looked into. Also unknown: whether lists only will be allowed (e.g. pistols only, shotguns only, etc.), a mix of various weapons only, or both.
 
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Canbacon

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Finally, loadouts in Battlelog was one of the major gripes I had even before BF3 went live.

I wonder why it took so long; it's one of those little things that brings the quality way up.
 

chucky2

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Sweet!!! I don't know how many times as Recon I'd have liked to have say C4 for an enemy tank/AA, or instead of SOFLAM/MAV have ammo reload. Or now maybe have a machine gun and the SOFLAM if I just want to setup somewhere and defend.

I'd still like to have manual laze on the SOFLAM though. Autolock just sux (especially when it's locking onto your own side tank being repaired, or the autospawn jeep in the objective you hold, or the jeep that the other side is whizzing around in that's closer than the helicopter that's tearing up your team at an objective).
 

maevinj

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Sweet!!! I don't know how many times as Recon I'd have liked to have say C4 for an enemy tank/AA, or instead of SOFLAM/MAV have ammo reload. Or now maybe have a machine gun and the SOFLAM if I just want to setup somewhere and defend.

say what/?
 

chucky2

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Nevermind... :( This isn't what I thought it was going to be. :( :(

What I was thinking was that it would allow me to setup say Recon, with a M98B, pistol, (so so far we're normal Recon), but then, instead of taking along the SOFLAM, I could take C4 instead. Or an Ammo reload drop thing.

There are times as Recon if I have a good spot, and am suppressing for my team, I'm wasting a lot of ammo and run dry. Now what? If I could drop an ammo pack instead of having the SOFLAM, I'd be able to replenish myself.

Or, sometimes if I try and play aggressive Recon, I'm hiding and here comes a tank. No one is by me from my team, but I could take it out if I had C4. Would be nice to have that instead of SOFLAM.

That's what I thought this new tool would let us do, but, all this does is what we could always do. Bummer... :(
 

JTsyo

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Nevermind... :( This isn't what I thought it was going to be. :( :(

What I was thinking was that it would allow me to setup say Recon, with a M98B, pistol, (so so far we're normal Recon), but then, instead of taking along the SOFLAM, I could take C4 instead. Or an Ammo reload drop thing.

There are times as Recon if I have a good spot, and am suppressing for my team, I'm wasting a lot of ammo and run dry. Now what? If I could drop an ammo pack instead of having the SOFLAM, I'd be able to replenish myself.

Or, sometimes if I try and play aggressive Recon, I'm hiding and here comes a tank. No one is by me from my team, but I could take it out if I had C4. Would be nice to have that instead of SOFLAM.

That's what I thought this new tool would let us do, but, all this does is what we could always do. Bummer... :(

That would be bad since with omni-soldiers, you can go lone wolf. If there are gaps in the threats you can handle that makes you play with a well rounded squad.
 

chucky2

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Yes, it works great when you have a well rounded squad. When you've got guys just joining a squad to share the squad perks and then doing whatever, it makes it hard to do.

I was setup in a great place SOFLAM'ing the sh1t out of the enemy a few times, asking, pleading, for JAVS. Not one F'ing taker out of 31 other people. I'd at least like the option of C4 instead of SOFLAM. I don't consider that outside the realm of realism.

Chuck