Why am I not surprised :roll:
Perkins said that in Ohio alone a network led by hundreds of ministers helped increase turnout among Christian conservatives.
Perkins said that group included African-American ministers who helped Bush get a share of the black vote that historically goes overwhelmingly for Democrats.
That was a decisive factor in giving Bush a 118,000-vote margin in a state he had to win to remain in the White House
And? Are churches not allowed to get out the vote? Are Christians not allowed to vote, or is it just anyone who disagrees with you that should be disallowed? Do you have a point?
Try slowing down and comprehending.
1) The P&N Elitists in here swear that Ohio was not won by African Americans that normally vote Democratic.
2) They also swear that the Christians had nothing to do with the vote in Ohio.
There is the Christian Leader himself saying that both 1 and 2 are the case.
Now back to what I said, let's see the P&N Elitists refute what their own Leader has said.
Todays ruling will not sit well with loud "roaring" posters on here.
1-24-2005Supreme Court says States have to offer Abortion Rights Tags in Addition to Anti-Abortion Tags
WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court declined Monday to consider whether states may offer license plates with anti-abortion messages, leaving lower courts divided over whether the programs in a dozen states unconstitutionally restrict dissenting views.
The high court's move means that South Carolina will either have to eliminate the specialty plates or begin offering plates with abortion-rights views.
That ruling is at odds, however, with a prior decision by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, which essentially allowed the plates because it said abortion rights advocates didn't have standing to bring a lawsuit in the case.
Abortion rights advocates cheered the Supreme Court's move Monday.
"Free speech does not mean muzzling opposing points of view," said Gloria Feldt, president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America. "America's pro-choice majority deserves a fair chance to be heard in any venue."
1-24-2005Supreme Court says States have to offer Abortion Rights Tags in Addition to Anti-Abortion Tags
WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court declined Monday to consider whether states may offer license plates with anti-abortion messages, leaving lower courts divided over whether the programs in a dozen states unconstitutionally restrict dissenting views.
The high court's move means that South Carolina will either have to eliminate the specialty plates or begin offering plates with abortion-rights views.
That ruling is at odds, however, with a prior decision by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, which essentially allowed the plates because it said abortion rights advocates didn't have standing to bring a lawsuit in the case.
Abortion rights advocates cheered the Supreme Court's move Monday.
"Free speech does not mean muzzling opposing points of view," said Gloria Feldt, president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America. "America's pro-choice majority deserves a fair chance to be heard in any venue."
I've never heard either of your two claims in this forum. In fact, I have absolutely no problem with either blacks or Christians voting for Bush, nor do I see why anyone would, nor do I see why it's even relevant. He won the vote - why does it matter how?
Bush phones it in to Abortion Protestors
I guess he's so passionate about his "culture of life" that he can't walk out his front door and go speak with the pro lifers in person? Or is he embarrassed to be seen with them? Or does he recognize them as the fundamentalist extremists they really are?
Wow, could he try any harder? Or perhaps he's simply realized that Roe v Wade won't be overturned anytime soon. You'd think the bible warriors would get the hint. Nah.
I guess he's so passionate about his "culture of life" that he can't walk out his front door and go speak with the pro lifers in person? Or is he embarrassed to be seen with them? Or does he recognize them as the fundamentalist extremists they really are?
Wow, could he try any harder? Or perhaps he's simply realized that Roe v Wade won't be overturned anytime soon. You'd think the bible warriors would get the hint. Nah.
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Couple of points on this. First of all, I can't see why someone would go through all the trouble of actually bringing a lawsuit on this issue. While I disagree for the most part with the anti-abortion crowd, this has got to be one of the lamest premises for a USSC case I've ever seen. While I think affinity license plates are dumb in general and plates that say "choose life" or similar to be over the top stupid, it certainly doesn't make me say "hey, if only they had a pro-choice license plate...." Isn't that what bumper stickers are for? And since one of the main purposes of these affinity plates is to generate a bit of extra cash for the state, I'd think that if there were a market for "pro-life" plates they'd already be producing them.
Secondly, I'm kinda curious on what grounds this became a Constitutional question that the USSC needed to decide. I don't remember the First Amendment having an "Fairness Doctrine" clause mandating that both points of view on a subject have to be aired when it comes to political speech (such as it is when the "speech" involved is a license plate). They offer "animal lover" plates here in VA with a picture of a cat and dog on them, does that mean I should be able to sue to force production of an "animal hater" plate with a picture of some roadkill on it?
1-26-2005 Abortion Ban in Georgia Proposed by Republican Lawmaker
ATLANTA - A sweeping bill to make abortion illegal in Georgia was proposed Tuesday by a Republican state lawmaker, a far-right measure suggested many times by the most conservative lawmakers.
But there's something different this time around -- GOP control of the Legislature.
There would be no exceptions for cases of rape or incest, and any doctor caught performing an abortion would be guilty of a felony.
The Republican has floated the abortion ban before -- and last term even dropped a bill requiring a judge to sign a death warrant for a fetus before it could be aborted.
Franklin said his abortion ban stands a better chance in a Republican House this year, even if it's not a sure bet.
"If you don't have hope, you don't have any business being up here," he said.
ATLANTA - A sweeping bill to make abortion illegal in Georgia was proposed Tuesday by a Republican state lawmaker, a far-right measure suggested many times by the most conservative lawmakers.
But there's something different this time around -- GOP control of the Legislature.
There would be no exceptions for cases of rape or incest, and any doctor caught performing an abortion would be guilty of a felony.
The Republican has floated the abortion ban before -- and last term even dropped a bill requiring a judge to sign a death warrant for a fetus before it could be aborted.
Franklin said his abortion ban stands a better chance in a Republican House this year, even if it's not a sure bet.
"If you don't have hope, you don't have any business being up here," he said.
1-26-2005 Georgia Republican Lawmaker Introduces Baby's Right to Know Act
Representative Ben Bridges -- a Republican from Cleveland -- introduced the so-called Baby's Right to Know Act yesterday. It would require hospitals to ask women: Who's the father?
State records show that in Georgia nearly
53-thousand babies were born to unmarried women in 2003. That's 37 percent of all babies born that year.
Representative Ben Bridges -- a Republican from Cleveland -- introduced the so-called Baby's Right to Know Act yesterday. It would require hospitals to ask women: Who's the father?
State records show that in Georgia nearly
53-thousand babies were born to unmarried women in 2003. That's 37 percent of all babies born that year.
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