*** Official 8800GTS 512MB (G92) O/C Thread ***

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: trajan
Anyone got any thoughts on how soon factory-OC'd variants will appear? E.g. whats the general time lag? I'm doing the eVGA stepup to the G92 GTS but am actually losing money on this.. so I wouldn't mind getting a slightly pricier OC version. I've only got 16 days to wait, though!

I have one general worry which maybe someone will know more about. It seems to me that if I were a card maker, I'd be testing all my products prior to boxing to see which have great OC potential, and then stashing those aside to market later as factory OCs.. If that were true, it means the stock cards being sold have already kind of been picked through and the best taken out.

I've bought the vanilla EVGA cards and clocked them myself back to the 5700 series. I've never had a card that wouldn't hit OC's seen on same chip factory overclocked models. Maybe I'm lucky.

In reality, I think factory OC'd cards are 99% marketing. I've searched high and low for proof of a real manufacturer binning process. I've emailed EVGA, BFG, and Gainward and never received repsonses. I've searched the net, and I've posted here. Nothing but theory. I've yet for someone to prove me wrong, but I think there is little or no binning process used.

Am I happy to scoop up the vanilla EVGA 8800 GTS, yes! Would I consider step-up unless it's next gen, no!

 

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
FedEx still says that my card departed City of Industry... Usually by this time, it arrived in Minneapolis... I sure hope the estimated delivery holds true!

Mine's in the same status. Check in the am. Deliveries usually arrive in your local hub in the wee hours..

 

[Spike]

Originally posted by: SteelSix

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
FedEx still says that my card departed City of Industry... Usually by this time, it arrived in Minneapolis... I sure hope the estimated delivery holds true!

Mine's in the same status. Check in the am. Deliveries usually arrive in your local hub in the wee hours..

Mine said the same... until I went to the front porch and found it waiting for me. So mine is in hand but I can't do anything with it The wife took it away to wrap it though she did let me open it and fondle it for a few seconds. Ah well, I have a few days off at new years and that will be the first chance I'll actually have to catch my breath and play with the card.

I have been saving Oblivion, Bioshock and Crysis to play with this card so I can't wait. Hoping to hit a modest 750 on the core, looks like this is a distinct possibility!

 

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: Spike

Originally posted by: SteelSix

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
FedEx still says that my card departed City of Industry... Usually by this time, it arrived in Minneapolis... I sure hope the estimated delivery holds true!

Mine's in the same status. Check in the am. Deliveries usually arrive in your local hub in the wee hours..

Mine said the same... until I went to the front porch and found it waiting for me. So mine is in hand but I can't do anything with it The wife took it away to wrap it though she did let me open it and fondle it for a few seconds. Ah well, I have a few days off at new years and that will be the first chance I'll actually have to catch my breath and play with the card.

I have been saving Oblivion, Bioshock and Crysis to play with this card so I can't wait. Hoping to hit a modest 750 on the core, looks like this is a distinct possibility!

Bad wife! At least she let you fondle it though.

You've been saving Oblivion? You're gonna have a hard time dividing out your free time. You may want to blast through Bioshock and Crysis, then start Oblivion. If and when you upgrade to next gen, play Crysis again. Hope you didn't read any of the Bioshock spoilers. The game takes several interesting turns...

"Would you kindly..."

 

[ArchAngel777]

Originally posted by: Spike

Originally posted by: SteelSix

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
FedEx still says that my card departed City of Industry... Usually by this time, it arrived in Minneapolis... I sure hope the estimated delivery holds true!

Mine's in the same status. Check in the am. Deliveries usually arrive in your local hub in the wee hours..

Mine said the same... until I went to the front porch and found it waiting for me. So mine is in hand but I can't do anything with it The wife took it away to wrap it though she did let me open it and fondle it for a few seconds. Ah well, I have a few days off at new years and that will be the first chance I'll actually have to catch my breath and play with the card.

I have been saving Oblivion, Bioshock and Crysis to play with this card so I can't wait. Hoping to hit a modest 750 on the core, looks like this is a distinct possibility!

Thank goodness that I do not have to wait to fondle mine... Actually, I do because my wife invited one of her friends over and now I will have to be the good husband and spend some time socializing... uhg... That is torture when a brand new computer part is still in its shrink wrap...

 

[Spike]

Originally posted by: SteelSix

Originally posted by: Spike

Originally posted by: SteelSix

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
FedEx still says that my card departed City of Industry... Usually by this time, it arrived in Minneapolis... I sure hope the estimated delivery holds true!

Mine's in the same status. Check in the am. Deliveries usually arrive in your local hub in the wee hours..

Mine said the same... until I went to the front porch and found it waiting for me. So mine is in hand but I can't do anything with it The wife took it away to wrap it though she did let me open it and fondle it for a few seconds. Ah well, I have a few days off at new years and that will be the first chance I'll actually have to catch my breath and play with the card.

I have been saving Oblivion, Bioshock and Crysis to play with this card so I can't wait. Hoping to hit a modest 750 on the core, looks like this is a distinct possibility!

Bad wife! At least she let you fondle it though.

You've been saving Oblivion? You're gonna have a hard time dividing out your free time. You may want to blast through Bioshock and Crysis, then start Oblivion. If and when you upgrade to next gen, play Crysis again. Hope you didn't read any of the Bioshock spoilers. The game takes several interesting turns...

"Would you kindly..."

Well, I did start oblivion but never finished it due to the poor performance and I have been itching to play again. I can't wait to install the texture packs and be able to play it at 1680x1050 smoothly assuming my old opteron can handle the strain.

 

[Hauk]

Out for delivery. Let's see if the contract Fed Ex driver doesn't "suck donkey balls" today...

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: Spike
Mine said the same... until I went to the front porch and found it waiting for me. So mine is in hand but I can't do anything with it The wife took it away to wrap it though she did let me open it and fondle it for a few seconds. Ah well, I have a few days off at new years and that will be the first chance I'll actually have to catch my breath and play with the card.

I have been saving Oblivion, Bioshock and Crysis to play with this card so I can't wait. Hoping to hit a modest 750 on the core, looks like this is a distinct possibility!

New Years? A few years ago, around Christmas time, I was waiting for my X800XT-PE to be delivered. My Wife suggested doing the same thing....to this very day I still miss her.... :heart:

 

[ArchAngel777]

Originally posted by: SteelSix
Out for delivery. Let's see if the contract Fed Ex driver doesn't "suck donkey balls" today...

Mine still says "Departed from City of Industry"... I have a really bad sinking feeling that I am not going to get my card today... :-( SOB!

 

[regpfj]

Originally posted by: SteelSix
I've searched high and low for proof of a real manufacturer binning process. I've emailed EVGA, BFG, and Gainward and never received repsonses. I've searched the net, and I've posted here. Nothing but theory. I've yet for someone to prove me wrong, but I think there is little or no binning process used.

Click the link for one journalist's tour of EVGA Europe's speed bin room. It looks real enough to me. There are some nice geek pr0n pictures too: piles of 8800 GTXs.

EDIT:I apologize for the OT - please continue with the fun GTS 512 OCing madness.

 

[nZone]

I have the 8800GTX, which is the more logical thing to do?

1. buy another 8800GTX to SLI ($450-500)
2. buy 2 8800GTS(512MB) to SLI ($720-800) and retire the 8800GTX
3. Or wait for the next king of the hill by nVidia?

I guess option 1 is a no-brainer because it's cheaper. But I don't know about the performance.
The GTS (512MB) has two known advantages: less power usage and built-in hardware video decoder. Option 3, for how long?

 

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: regpfj

Originally posted by: SteelSix
I've searched high and low for proof of a real manufacturer binning process. I've emailed EVGA, BFG, and Gainward and never received repsonses. I've searched the net, and I've posted here. Nothing but theory. I've yet for someone to prove me wrong, but I think there is little or no binning process used.

Click the link for one journalist's tour of EVGA Europe's speed bin room. It looks real enough to me. There are some nice geek pr0n pictures too: piles of 8800 GTXs.

EDIT:I apologize for the OT - please continue with the fun GTS 512 OCing madness.

I'll check it out! Thanks..

 

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

Originally posted by: SteelSix
Out for delivery. Let's see if the contract Fed Ex driver doesn't "suck donkey balls" today...

Mine still says "Departed from City of Industry"... I have a really bad sinking feeling that I am not going to get my card today... :-( SOB!

Maybe they missed a scan at the local hub. That would suck if it's delayed. Hope you get it. I just got mine. It's installed! Wow that fan is loud when you first boot PC. It's silent as it defaults though. Now to start tweaking...

 

[JustaGeek]

Originally posted by: nZone
I have the 8800GTX, which is the more logical thing to do?

1. buy another 8800GTX to SLI ($450-500)
2. buy 2 8800GTS(512MB) to SLI ($720-800) and retire the 8800GTX
3. Or wait for the next king of the hill by nVidia?

I guess option 1 is a no-brainer because it's cheaper. But I don't know about the performance.
The GTS (512MB) has two known advantages: less power usage and built-in hardware video decoder. Option 3, for how long?

Wait as long as you can.

I upgraded from 7950GT to 8800GT, to double my gaming performance/frame rates.

Do the same - wait for something twice as fast as the GTX.

Otherwise, it is just an UPDATE, not an UPGRADE.

Even in SLI you won't double your rig's performance.

Just wait...

 

[ArchAngel777]

Originally posted by: SteelSix

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777

Originally posted by: SteelSix
Out for delivery. Let's see if the contract Fed Ex driver doesn't "suck donkey balls" today...

Mine still says "Departed from City of Industry"... I have a really bad sinking feeling that I am not going to get my card today... :-( SOB!

Maybe they missed a scan at the local hub. That would suck if it's delayed. Hope you get it. I just got mine. It's installed! Wow that fan is loud when you first boot PC. It's silent as it defaults though. Now to start tweaking...

Gratz! Can't wait to see what what numbers you get... I hope mine comes today, but at this point I will be ok if it does not come. I have waited a few months already, what is a few more? I hope I get it, but it will not ruin my weekend if I do not.

 

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: nZone
I have the 8800GTX, which is the more logical thing to do?

1. buy another 8800GTX to SLI ($450-500)
2. buy 2 8800GTS(512MB) to SLI ($720-800) and retire the 8800GTX
3. Or wait for the next king of the hill by nVidia?

I guess option 1 is a no-brainer because it's cheaper. But I don't know about the performance.
The GTS (512MB) has two known advantages: less power usage and built-in hardware video decoder. Option 3, for how long?

Option 1, power and heat. Option 2, large up front cost, and what to do with the GTX.

Option 3... ask yourself, what game beside Crysis is your GTX not able to handle right now? Yes there are poorly ported DX10 games that choke even on a GTX. Simply avoid them. Your single GTX will run 90-95% of games out there at very playable frame rates.

I think most people would tell you to hold off. Resist the temptation of going SLI just because you can. $375 used GTX's make it very tempting. But you really need to look at the big picture. My vote, be happy with the GTX for now..

 

[Spike]

Originally posted by: JustaGeek

Originally posted by: nZone
I have the 8800GTX, which is the more logical thing to do?

1. buy another 8800GTX to SLI ($450-500)
2. buy 2 8800GTS(512MB) to SLI ($720-800) and retire the 8800GTX
3. Or wait for the next king of the hill by nVidia?

I guess option 1 is a no-brainer because it's cheaper. But I don't know about the performance.
The GTS (512MB) has two known advantages: less power usage and built-in hardware video decoder. Option 3, for how long?

Wait as long as you can.

I upgraded from 7950GT to 8800GT, to double my gaming performance/frame rates.

Do the same - wait for something twice as fast as the GTX.

Otherwise, it is just an UPDATE, not an UPGRADE.

Even in SLI you won't double your rig's performance.

Just wait...

This was my thought, if I had some 8 series then I would have waited but I know I am going to get a huge improvement vs my 7800GT so thats why I jumped.

 

[karioskasra]

Mine's in but I can't get rivatuner to work with 169.25. Once I find a working driver version I'll post some numbers.

Edit1. So apparently 169.25 is the only version that works with this card. Fantastic.

Edit2. Went to the rv forums and found a way around it. If you're running Rivatuner 2.06 and have problems with greyed-out or missing overclock/fan buttons, do this:

To add support for 8800gts 512 to rivatuner 2.06, open rivatuner.cfg and make the following edit to the G92 line under [GPU_10DE] : G92 = 610h-61Fh,600h

Edit3. The temps on this thing are a lot better than my 7800gtx. It tops out at 64C under load, 47C idle. By comparison, my gtx hovers around 75C under load. Fan speed is set at 60% to match the noise level of my case fans.

Edit4. First round of synthetic benchmarks (no games installed) at stock 670core/1674shader/972mem. First number is exact same system with a 7800gtx, second number is with the 8800gts512.
FFXI-3HI: 8002, 9238
3DMARK01: 34716, 44878
3DMARK03: 21456, 40585
3DMARK05: 9341, 20143
3DMARK06: 5444, 13911

Edit5. OVERCLOCKING. (Stability tested via overnight looping of 3dmark06 and atitool)
Core: 826
Shaders: ???
Memory: ???

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: karioskasra
Mine's in but I can't get rivatuner to work with 169.25. Once I find a working driver version I'll post some numbers.

Edit1. So apparently 169.25 is the only version that works with this card. Fantastic.

Make sure you have RT 2.06 or later. 167-series and later changed the way 2d/3d clocks are handled in the driver and broke RT 2.05 and earlier. Otherwise you can use 169.21, which should definitely support the G92 GTS and also works with RT 2.06 as I'm running them now.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: karioskasra
Mine's in but I can't get rivatuner to work with 169.25. Once I find a working driver version I'll post some numbers.

Edit1. So apparently 169.25 is the only version that works with this card. Fantastic.

Was on Rivatuner's Forum this morning. Developer (UnWinder @ Guru3d) said Rivatuner won't fully support the G92 GTS until version 2.07 is released.

You can use Ntune however, not the best overclocking app but it works supposedly.

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName

Originally posted by: karioskasra
Mine's in but I can't get rivatuner to work with 169.25. Once I find a working driver version I'll post some numbers.

Edit1. So apparently 169.25 is the only version that works with this card. Fantastic.

Was on Rivatuner's Forum this morning. Rivatuner won't fully support the G92 GTS until version 2.07 is released regardless of driver used.

Doh, guess it is broken with a GTS. Well, until they update there's always Ntune. It sucks but better than nothing lol.

 

[nZone]

Originally posted by: JustaGeek

Wait as long as you can.

I upgraded from 7950GT to 8800GT, to double my gaming performance/frame rates.

Do the same - wait for something twice as fast as the GTX.

Otherwise, it is just an UPDATE, not an UPGRADE.

Even in SLI you won't double your rig's performance.

Just wait...

Thanks! I'll take your advice. I will wait for the next series card (9). I guess I felt into the trap of the latest offerings.

 

[nZone]

Originally posted by: SteelSix


Option 1, power and heat. Option 2, large up front cost, and what to do with the GTX.

Option 3... ask yourself, what game beside Crysis is your GTX not able to handle right now? Yes there are poorly ported DX10 games that choke even on a GTX. Simply avoid them. Your single GTX will run 90-95% of games out there at very playable frame rates.

I think most people would tell you to hold off. Resist the temptation of going SLI just because you can. $375 used GTX's make it very tempting. But you really need to look at the big picture. My vote, be happy with the GTX for now..

Thanks! You are 1000% right, I don't have any game that my current GTX can't handle.

 

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: karioskasra
Mine's in but I can't get rivatuner to work with 169.25. Once I find a working driver version I'll post some numbers.

Edit1. So apparently 169.25 is the only version that works with this card. Fantastic.

Edit2. Went to the rv forums and found a way around it. If you're running Rivatuner 2.06 and have problems with greyed-out or missing overclock/fan buttons, do this:

To add support for 8800gts 512 to rivatuner 2.06, open rivatuner.cfg and make the following edit to the G92 line under [GPU_10DE] : G92 = 610h-61Fh,600h

Edit3. The temps on this thing are a lot better than my 7800gtx. Hasn't broken 57C under load yet, 47C idle. By comparison, my gtx hovers around 75C under load. Fan speed is set at 60% to match the noise level of my case fans.

Edit4. First round of synthetic benchmarks at stock 670core/1674shader/972mem. First number is exact same system with a 7800gtx, second number is with the 8800gts512.
FFXI-3HI: 8002, 9238
3DMARK01: 34716, 44878
3DMARK03: 21456, 40585
3DMARK05: 9341, 20143
3DMARK06: 5444, 13911

Worked like a charm. Thanks a LOT for posting this.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Well, I called FedEx because the website still has not updated since it left City of Industry, CA. They told me there was a delay. I decided to not get upset, but I am upset about 1 thing. 1) Why the fluck does the website not report this? Is it so much to ask to be informed of such things? Most people are pissed not because of delays, but because of lack of communication. I guess no one really seems to understand that.

Anyway, it looks like Monday, but even then I am not putting money on it.