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Spineshank

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: conjur
WA-FCKING-HOO!!!


Bring on Ohio St., BAY-BEE!!!!!

Yeah! It will be a great Rose Bowl matchup.

:D

Rose Bowl = Pac-10 winner vs Big-10 winner unless one or both of the conference champs go to the national title game.

Its still Big Ten vs Pac Ten regardless. The loser of OSU vs Michigan will play the winner of Cal vs USC.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Either way....WVU got their asses handed to them, especially when the 2nd half started...they played sloppy and paid the price.

Except that they outgained Louisville by over 100 yards. Yeah, totally got their ass kicked on the road:roll:

Yeah, because offensive output is the true indicator of a game.

Let's see:

Louisville returns punt for TD
Louisville returns forced fumble for TD
WVU turns ball over three times

WVU got beat up tonight. Their defense couldn't stop ANYONE. Brohm passed all over their asses as much as he wanted, whenever he wanted.

Louisville punted more times than WVU did.
WHERE THE HELL DID I SAY THAT THE OFFENSIVE OUTPUT WAS THE ONLY INDICATOR OF THE GAME, I GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WVU DIDN'T GET THEIR "ASS KICKED".

How many times did you see someone from Louisville get hit hard in this game?

How many times did you see someone from WVU get hit hard in this game?

I am not a fan of either team. WVU has some talented players on offense. But it seemed like only Louisville could stop themselves (in the red zone).

I didn't even really watch the game...offensive shootouts like that bore me. Hearing that Slaton coughed up the ball twice though made me laugh regarding his Heisman hopes.
Yeah he's probably out of the race now despite averaging 8.6yd/carry last night (156 total).

One thing I can't believe is that Pat White isn't in discussions for the Heisman, he had 125 yards rushing (5.43yd/carry), 4TDs, and 13-20 for 222 yards passing. He will surpass every rushing record held by Vick (he already has top 2 single game for B.East) and can very much be compared to Vick (he's just as fast as Vick was in college). Yet somehow Brady Quinn is still in the Heisman running after getting blown out to Michigan and having his worst game of the season? If anything, White showed last night how valuable he is, especially after Slaton had to leave the game.

In any case, they'll be back next year and WVU will have a stronger SoS and hopefully work on that horrible secondary. Giving up 19 yards/passing play last night was horrendous, despite the decent run D (the 6 play goal line stand was great).
 

Alkaline5

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
In any case, they'll be back next year and WVU will have a stronger SoS and hopefully work on that horrible secondary. Giving up 19 yards/passing play last night was horrendous, despite the decent run D (the 6 play goal line stand was great).
Slaton should be in the Heisman hunt next year, but what makes you think they'll have a stronger SoS? This time next year we'll be right back here, talking about how WVU still hasn't played anyone.

2007 OoC Schedule:

9-1 Ball State
9-8 @ Marshall
10-20 Mississippi State
TBA @ Maryland
TBA East Carolina
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Either way....WVU got their asses handed to them, especially when the 2nd half started...they played sloppy and paid the price.

Except that they outgained Louisville by over 100 yards. Yeah, totally got their ass kicked on the road:roll:

Yeah, because offensive output is the true indicator of a game.

Let's see:

Louisville returns punt for TD
Louisville returns forced fumble for TD
WVU turns ball over three times

WVU got beat up tonight. Their defense couldn't stop ANYONE. Brohm passed all over their asses as much as he wanted, whenever he wanted.

Louisville punted more times than WVU did.
WHERE THE HELL DID I SAY THAT THE OFFENSIVE OUTPUT WAS THE ONLY INDICATOR OF THE GAME, I GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WVU DIDN'T GET THEIR "ASS KICKED".

How many times did you see someone from Louisville get hit hard in this game?

How many times did you see someone from WVU get hit hard in this game?

I am not a fan of either team. WVU has some talented players on offense. But it seemed like only Louisville could stop themselves (in the red zone).

I didn't even really watch the game...offensive shootouts like that bore me. Hearing that Slaton coughed up the ball twice though made me laugh regarding his Heisman hopes.
Yeah he's probably out of the race now despite averaging 8.6yd/carry last night (156 total).

One thing I can't believe is that Pat White isn't in discussions for the Heisman, he had 125 yards rushing (5.43yd/carry), 4TDs, and 13-20 for 222 yards passing. He will surpass every rushing record held by Vick (he already has top 2 single game for B.East) and can very much be compared to Vick (he's just as fast as Vick was in college). Yet somehow Brady Quinn is still in the Heisman running after getting blown out to Michigan and having his worst game of the season? If anything, White showed last night how valuable he is, especially after Slaton had to leave the game.

In any case, they'll be back next year and WVU will have a stronger SoS and hopefully work on that horrible secondary. Giving up 19 yards/passing play last night was horrendous, despite the decent run D (the 6 play goal line stand was great).

Heres the thing why White wont be considered seriously for the heisman.....because his team lost. End of story. (And yes I think White is a very good QB)

Ditto with Brady Quinn....he's in the running so to speak but with that loss it kills his chances. His name is only mentioned because he plays for Notre Dame.

At this point someone like Mike Hart from Mich or Troy Smith from OSU have a better shot at it. Heisman winners tend to play in national title games....

I know that sounds biased but thats generally how things roll in college football these days.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
In any case, they'll be back next year and WVU will have a stronger SoS and hopefully work on that horrible secondary. Giving up 19 yards/passing play last night was horrendous, despite the decent run D (the 6 play goal line stand was great).
Slaton should be in the Heisman hunt next year, but what makes you think they'll have a stronger SoS? This time next year we'll be right back here, talking about how WVU still hasn't played anyone.

2007 OoC Schedule:

9-1 Ball State
9-8 @ Marshall
10-20 Mississippi State
TBA @ Maryland
TBA East Carolina
Hmm, couldn't find 2007 schedule but I know they are scheduling Auburn, FL State, and Mich State in the future. That must be for 2008 then...

Hopefully Miss State can shape up that program to where it's competitive, Croom is a good coach but he just doesn't have the recruiting yet. Ball State and ECU are for $$$, Marshall and UMD are rivalries.
 

Turin39789

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: Brackis
The way I read it, the $10 bet was IF they went undefeated, a bet was agreed upon.

You read wrong. He added that after we agreed, so I went back and edited and then he and Syringer starting going nuts trying to say I was in an unwinnable bet. It was stated to him in that thread what the bet was about. If he chooses not to pay then he's nothing more than a pussy.
Wrong, look at the timestamps. KLin marked you before your edit. My bet that said IF was there 7 full minutes before your post. Just admit it and stop acting emo. Oh and stop sending me PM's calling me a pussy, show some class.

Somebody owes somebody $10
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
In any case, they'll be back next year and WVU will have a stronger SoS and hopefully work on that horrible secondary. Giving up 19 yards/passing play last night was horrendous, despite the decent run D (the 6 play goal line stand was great).
Slaton should be in the Heisman hunt next year, but what makes you think they'll have a stronger SoS? This time next year we'll be right back here, talking about how WVU still hasn't played anyone.

2007 OoC Schedule:

9-1 Ball State
9-8 @ Marshall
10-20 Mississippi State
TBA @ Maryland
TBA East Carolina
Hmm, couldn't find 2007 schedule but I know they are scheduling Auburn, FL State, and Mich State in the future. That must be for 2008 then...

Hopefully Miss State can shape up that program to where it's competitive, Croom is a good coach but he just doesn't have the recruiting yet. Ball State and ECU are for $$$, Marshall and UMD are rivalries.

IIRC, Auburn's schedules are set 6 years in advance....so my guess is 2012.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Either way....WVU got their asses handed to them, especially when the 2nd half started...they played sloppy and paid the price.

Except that they outgained Louisville by over 100 yards. Yeah, totally got their ass kicked on the road:roll:

Yeah, because offensive output is the true indicator of a game.

Let's see:

Louisville returns punt for TD
Louisville returns forced fumble for TD
WVU turns ball over three times

WVU got beat up tonight. Their defense couldn't stop ANYONE. Brohm passed all over their asses as much as he wanted, whenever he wanted.

Louisville punted more times than WVU did.
WHERE THE HELL DID I SAY THAT THE OFFENSIVE OUTPUT WAS THE ONLY INDICATOR OF THE GAME, I GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WVU DIDN'T GET THEIR "ASS KICKED".

How many times did you see someone from Louisville get hit hard in this game?

How many times did you see someone from WVU get hit hard in this game?

I am not a fan of either team. WVU has some talented players on offense. But it seemed like only Louisville could stop themselves (in the red zone).

I didn't even really watch the game...offensive shootouts like that bore me. Hearing that Slaton coughed up the ball twice though made me laugh regarding his Heisman hopes.
Yeah he's probably out of the race now despite averaging 8.6yd/carry last night (156 total).

One thing I can't believe is that Pat White isn't in discussions for the Heisman, he had 125 yards rushing (5.43yd/carry), 4TDs, and 13-20 for 222 yards passing. He will surpass every rushing record held by Vick (he already has top 2 single game for B.East) and can very much be compared to Vick (he's just as fast as Vick was in college). Yet somehow Brady Quinn is still in the Heisman running after getting blown out to Michigan and having his worst game of the season? If anything, White showed last night how valuable he is, especially after Slaton had to leave the game.

In any case, they'll be back next year and WVU will have a stronger SoS and hopefully work on that horrible secondary. Giving up 19 yards/passing play last night was horrendous, despite the decent run D (the 6 play goal line stand was great).

Heres the thing why White wont be considered seriously for the heisman.....because his team lost. End of story. (And yes I think White is a very good QB)

Ditto with Brady Quinn....he's in the running so to speak but with that loss it kills his chances. His name is only mentioned because he plays for Notre Dame.

At this point someone like Mike Hart from Mich or Troy Smith from OSU have a better shot at it. Heisman winners tend to play in national title games....

I know that sounds biased but thats generally how things roll in college football these days.
I agree with you, Smith and Hart will be favored until one of them loses. I was referring to the fact that sports writers have Quinn at 2nd, only behind Troy Smith so far (yep even ahead of Slaton before last night's game). But yeah it's probably just because he plays for ND, White has more raw talent IMO because he can create with his legs (like Vince Young and Vick did).

 

Alkaline5

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
In any case, they'll be back next year and WVU will have a stronger SoS and hopefully work on that horrible secondary. Giving up 19 yards/passing play last night was horrendous, despite the decent run D (the 6 play goal line stand was great).
Slaton should be in the Heisman hunt next year, but what makes you think they'll have a stronger SoS? This time next year we'll be right back here, talking about how WVU still hasn't played anyone.

2007 OoC Schedule:

9-1 Ball State
9-8 @ Marshall
10-20 Mississippi State
TBA @ Maryland
TBA East Carolina
Hmm, couldn't find 2007 schedule but I know they are scheduling Auburn, FL State, and Mich State in the future. That must be for 2008 then...

Hopefully Miss State can shape up that program to where it's competitive, Croom is a good coach but he just doesn't have the recruiting yet. Ball State and ECU are for $$$, Marshall and UMD are rivalries.

Here's WVU's tentative future schedules. WVU should be in good shape from 2008 on. Being an SEC fan, I understand that sometimes you have to schedule whatever you can get when other teams suddenly decide they don't want to play you. But I also think the road to the NC should have more than a few speed bumps along the way.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
In any case, they'll be back next year and WVU will have a stronger SoS and hopefully work on that horrible secondary. Giving up 19 yards/passing play last night was horrendous, despite the decent run D (the 6 play goal line stand was great).
Slaton should be in the Heisman hunt next year, but what makes you think they'll have a stronger SoS? This time next year we'll be right back here, talking about how WVU still hasn't played anyone.

2007 OoC Schedule:

9-1 Ball State
9-8 @ Marshall
10-20 Mississippi State
TBA @ Maryland
TBA East Carolina
Hmm, couldn't find 2007 schedule but I know they are scheduling Auburn, FL State, and Mich State in the future. That must be for 2008 then...

Hopefully Miss State can shape up that program to where it's competitive, Croom is a good coach but he just doesn't have the recruiting yet. Ball State and ECU are for $$$, Marshall and UMD are rivalries.

Here's WVU's tentative future schedules. WVU should be in good shape from 2008 on. Being an SEC fan, I understand that sometimes you have to schedule whatever you can get when other teams suddenly decide they don't want to play you. But I also think the road to the NC should have more than a few speed bumps along the way.

Hrmm...Auburn in 2008. Guess I was wrong about how far in the future Auburn's schedules are set.
 

wyvrn

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Either way....WVU got their asses handed to them, especially when the 2nd half started...they played sloppy and paid the price.

Except that they outgained Louisville by over 100 yards. Yeah, totally got their ass kicked on the road:roll:

Yeah, because offensive output is the true indicator of a game.

Let's see:

Louisville returns punt for TD
Louisville returns forced fumble for TD
WVU turns ball over three times

WVU got beat up tonight. Their defense couldn't stop ANYONE. Brohm passed all over their asses as much as he wanted, whenever he wanted.

Louisville punted more times than WVU did.
WHERE THE HELL DID I SAY THAT THE OFFENSIVE OUTPUT WAS THE ONLY INDICATOR OF THE GAME, I GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WVU DIDN'T GET THEIR "ASS KICKED".

How many times did you see someone from Louisville get hit hard in this game?

How many times did you see someone from WVU get hit hard in this game?

I am not a fan of either team. WVU has some talented players on offense. But it seemed like only Louisville could stop themselves (in the red zone).

I didn't even really watch the game...offensive shootouts like that bore me. Hearing that Slaton coughed up the ball twice though made me laugh regarding his Heisman hopes.
Yeah he's probably out of the race now despite averaging 8.6yd/carry last night (156 total).

One thing I can't believe is that Pat White isn't in discussions for the Heisman, he had 125 yards rushing (5.43yd/carry), 4TDs, and 13-20 for 222 yards passing. He will surpass every rushing record held by Vick (he already has top 2 single game for B.East) and can very much be compared to Vick (he's just as fast as Vick was in college). Yet somehow Brady Quinn is still in the Heisman running after getting blown out to Michigan and having his worst game of the season? If anything, White showed last night how valuable he is, especially after Slaton had to leave the game.

In any case, they'll be back next year and WVU will have a stronger SoS and hopefully work on that horrible secondary. Giving up 19 yards/passing play last night was horrendous, despite the decent run D (the 6 play goal line stand was great).

Heres the thing why White wont be considered seriously for the heisman.....because his team lost. End of story. (And yes I think White is a very good QB)

Ditto with Brady Quinn....he's in the running so to speak but with that loss it kills his chances. His name is only mentioned because he plays for Notre Dame.

At this point someone like Mike Hart from Mich or Troy Smith from OSU have a better shot at it. Heisman winners tend to play in national title games....

I know that sounds biased but thats generally how things roll in college football these days.
I agree with you, Smith and Hart will be favored until one of them loses. I was referring to the fact that sports writers have Quinn at 2nd, only behind Troy Smith so far (yep even ahead of Slaton before last night's game). But yeah it's probably just because he plays for ND, White has more raw talent IMO because he can create with his legs (like Vince Young and Vick did).


I agree what White should be in discussions of Heisman. Personally, I think the Heisman process is a joke so I don't give much credence to it. Most Heisman winners have very lackluster pro careers, so that tells you it is not about the best talent right there.

I don't care, as a ND fan, if Quinn wins any college awards. I care about wins, I also care that he will be the 1st pick in the draft next year and is the best pro prospect at QB.
 

Alkaline5

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
In any case, they'll be back next year and WVU will have a stronger SoS and hopefully work on that horrible secondary. Giving up 19 yards/passing play last night was horrendous, despite the decent run D (the 6 play goal line stand was great).
Slaton should be in the Heisman hunt next year, but what makes you think they'll have a stronger SoS? This time next year we'll be right back here, talking about how WVU still hasn't played anyone.

2007 OoC Schedule:

9-1 Ball State
9-8 @ Marshall
10-20 Mississippi State
TBA @ Maryland
TBA East Carolina
Hmm, couldn't find 2007 schedule but I know they are scheduling Auburn, FL State, and Mich State in the future. That must be for 2008 then...

Hopefully Miss State can shape up that program to where it's competitive, Croom is a good coach but he just doesn't have the recruiting yet. Ball State and ECU are for $$$, Marshall and UMD are rivalries.

Here's WVU's tentative future schedules. WVU should be in good shape from 2008 on. Being an SEC fan, I understand that sometimes you have to schedule whatever you can get when other teams suddenly decide they don't want to play you. But I also think the road to the NC should have more than a few speed bumps along the way.

Hrmm...Auburn in 2008. Guess I was wrong about how far in the future Auburn's schedules are set.
When the NCAA approved the 12th game last year everyone found themselves with an extra date to fill.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
In any case, they'll be back next year and WVU will have a stronger SoS and hopefully work on that horrible secondary. Giving up 19 yards/passing play last night was horrendous, despite the decent run D (the 6 play goal line stand was great).
Slaton should be in the Heisman hunt next year, but what makes you think they'll have a stronger SoS? This time next year we'll be right back here, talking about how WVU still hasn't played anyone.

2007 OoC Schedule:

9-1 Ball State
9-8 @ Marshall
10-20 Mississippi State
TBA @ Maryland
TBA East Carolina
Hmm, couldn't find 2007 schedule but I know they are scheduling Auburn, FL State, and Mich State in the future. That must be for 2008 then...

Hopefully Miss State can shape up that program to where it's competitive, Croom is a good coach but he just doesn't have the recruiting yet. Ball State and ECU are for $$$, Marshall and UMD are rivalries.

Here's WVU's tentative future schedules. WVU should be in good shape from 2008 on. Being an SEC fan, I understand that sometimes you have to schedule whatever you can get when other teams suddenly decide they don't want to play you. But I also think the road to the NC should have more than a few speed bumps along the way.
Nice find. :thumbsup:

Too bad they don't have Maryland on the schedule for 08-09 when Auburn is on there, that would make for a crazy season. Mich State and Maryland for 10-11 will be great, hopefully MSU gets a decent coach and wins some big ball games next year.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Either way....WVU got their asses handed to them, especially when the 2nd half started...they played sloppy and paid the price.

Except that they outgained Louisville by over 100 yards. Yeah, totally got their ass kicked on the road:roll:

Yeah, because offensive output is the true indicator of a game.

Let's see:

Louisville returns punt for TD
Louisville returns forced fumble for TD
WVU turns ball over three times

WVU got beat up tonight. Their defense couldn't stop ANYONE. Brohm passed all over their asses as much as he wanted, whenever he wanted.

Louisville punted more times than WVU did.
WHERE THE HELL DID I SAY THAT THE OFFENSIVE OUTPUT WAS THE ONLY INDICATOR OF THE GAME, I GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WVU DIDN'T GET THEIR "ASS KICKED".

How many times did you see someone from Louisville get hit hard in this game?

How many times did you see someone from WVU get hit hard in this game?

I am not a fan of either team. WVU has some talented players on offense. But it seemed like only Louisville could stop themselves (in the red zone).

I didn't even really watch the game...offensive shootouts like that bore me. Hearing that Slaton coughed up the ball twice though made me laugh regarding his Heisman hopes.
Yeah he's probably out of the race now despite averaging 8.6yd/carry last night (156 total).

One thing I can't believe is that Pat White isn't in discussions for the Heisman, he had 125 yards rushing (5.43yd/carry), 4TDs, and 13-20 for 222 yards passing. He will surpass every rushing record held by Vick (he already has top 2 single game for B.East) and can very much be compared to Vick (he's just as fast as Vick was in college). Yet somehow Brady Quinn is still in the Heisman running after getting blown out to Michigan and having his worst game of the season? If anything, White showed last night how valuable he is, especially after Slaton had to leave the game.

In any case, they'll be back next year and WVU will have a stronger SoS and hopefully work on that horrible secondary. Giving up 19 yards/passing play last night was horrendous, despite the decent run D (the 6 play goal line stand was great).

Heres the thing why White wont be considered seriously for the heisman.....because his team lost. End of story. (And yes I think White is a very good QB)

Ditto with Brady Quinn....he's in the running so to speak but with that loss it kills his chances. His name is only mentioned because he plays for Notre Dame.

At this point someone like Mike Hart from Mich or Troy Smith from OSU have a better shot at it. Heisman winners tend to play in national title games....

I know that sounds biased but thats generally how things roll in college football these days.
I agree with you, Smith and Hart will be favored until one of them loses. I was referring to the fact that sports writers have Quinn at 2nd, only behind Troy Smith so far (yep even ahead of Slaton before last night's game). But yeah it's probably just because he plays for ND, White has more raw talent IMO because he can create with his legs (like Vince Young and Vick did).


I agree what White should be in discussions of Heisman. Personally, I think the Heisman process is a joke so I don't give much credence to it. Most Heisman winners have very lackluster pro careers, so that tells you it is not about the best talent right there.

I don't care, as a ND fan, if Quinn wins any college awards. I care about wins, I also care that he will be the 1st pick in the draft next year and is the best pro prospect at QB.
You think Quinn will go higher than T.Smith? Probably depends on team's offense (pure passer vs scrambler/passer), I think Troy has better all around talent.

As an aside, talk about a bad deal for the Texans, taking M.Williams over Leinart, Bush, and Vince Young. Think they're kicking themselves right now?
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
In any case, they'll be back next year and WVU will have a stronger SoS and hopefully work on that horrible secondary. Giving up 19 yards/passing play last night was horrendous, despite the decent run D (the 6 play goal line stand was great).
Slaton should be in the Heisman hunt next year, but what makes you think they'll have a stronger SoS? This time next year we'll be right back here, talking about how WVU still hasn't played anyone.

2007 OoC Schedule:

9-1 Ball State
9-8 @ Marshall
10-20 Mississippi State
TBA @ Maryland
TBA East Carolina
Hmm, couldn't find 2007 schedule but I know they are scheduling Auburn, FL State, and Mich State in the future. That must be for 2008 then...

Hopefully Miss State can shape up that program to where it's competitive, Croom is a good coach but he just doesn't have the recruiting yet. Ball State and ECU are for $$$, Marshall and UMD are rivalries.

Here's WVU's tentative future schedules. WVU should be in good shape from 2008 on. Being an SEC fan, I understand that sometimes you have to schedule whatever you can get when other teams suddenly decide they don't want to play you. But I also think the road to the NC should have more than a few speed bumps along the way.
Nice find. :thumbsup:

Too bad they don't have Maryland on the schedule for 08-09 when Auburn is on there, that would make for a crazy season. Mich State and Maryland for 10-11 will be great, hopefully MSU gets a decent coach and wins some big ball games next year.

It's Michigan State...they're historically known for their complete meltdowns...sure they may jump up and surprise a team or two but honestly...don't get too excited about playing them.
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Alkaline5
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
In any case, they'll be back next year and WVU will have a stronger SoS and hopefully work on that horrible secondary. Giving up 19 yards/passing play last night was horrendous, despite the decent run D (the 6 play goal line stand was great).
Slaton should be in the Heisman hunt next year, but what makes you think they'll have a stronger SoS? This time next year we'll be right back here, talking about how WVU still hasn't played anyone.

2007 OoC Schedule:

9-1 Ball State
9-8 @ Marshall
10-20 Mississippi State
TBA @ Maryland
TBA East Carolina
Hmm, couldn't find 2007 schedule but I know they are scheduling Auburn, FL State, and Mich State in the future. That must be for 2008 then...

Hopefully Miss State can shape up that program to where it's competitive, Croom is a good coach but he just doesn't have the recruiting yet. Ball State and ECU are for $$$, Marshall and UMD are rivalries.

When your rivalries continue to make your SoS laughable it's time to find new rivals.


 

BlancoNino

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Originally posted by: Gnrslash4life
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Originally posted by: mpitts
Originally posted by: conjur
WA-FCKING-HOO!!!


Bring on Ohio St., BAY-BEE!!!!!

Yeah! It will be a great Rose Bowl matchup.

:D

Rose Bowl = Pac-10 winner vs Big-10 winner unless one or both of the conference champs go to the national title game.

Its still Big Ten vs Pac Ten regardless. The loser of OSU vs Michigan will play the winner of Cal vs USC.

In the 2004-2005 season, Michigan played Texas while USC went to play Oklahoma for the title.
 

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WA-FCKING-HOO!!!


Bring on Ohio St., BAY-BEE!!!!!

Yeah! It will be a great Rose Bowl matchup.

:D

Rose Bowl = Pac-10 winner vs Big-10 winner unless one or both of the conference champs go to the national title game.

Its still Big Ten vs Pac Ten regardless. The loser of OSU vs Michigan will play the winner of Cal vs USC.

In the 2004-2005 season, Michigan played Texas while USC went to play Oklahoma for the title.

Yup. Blanco Nino's got it.

Big 10 winner v. Pac 10 winner. But if either of them is in the NCG, the Rose Bowl gets to pick from the auto-ins and the at-large BCS teams.

However, it will still probably be a Big 10-Pac 10 game this year.

OSU and Mich play filler until they face each other on Nov 18 (Though I suppose you could just as easily call Oregon State filler ;)). The winner will be no. 1 and the loser will likely drop to no. 3.

Because the Rose Bowl would lose the No. 1 team to the NCG, they would get first pick to fill the void. So...Big 10 runner-up...
 

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Either way....WVU got their asses handed to them, especially when the 2nd half started...they played sloppy and paid the price.

Except that they outgained Louisville by over 100 yards. Yeah, totally got their ass kicked on the road:roll:

Yeah, because offensive output is the true indicator of a game.

Let's see:

Louisville returns punt for TD
Louisville returns forced fumble for TD
WVU turns ball over three times

WVU got beat up tonight. Their defense couldn't stop ANYONE. Brohm passed all over their asses as much as he wanted, whenever he wanted.

Louisville punted more times than WVU did.
WHERE THE HELL DID I SAY THAT THE OFFENSIVE OUTPUT WAS THE ONLY INDICATOR OF THE GAME, I GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WVU DIDN'T GET THEIR "ASS KICKED".

How many times did you see someone from Louisville get hit hard in this game?

How many times did you see someone from WVU get hit hard in this game?

I am not a fan of either team. WVU has some talented players on offense. But it seemed like only Louisville could stop themselves (in the red zone).

I didn't even really watch the game...offensive shootouts like that bore me. Hearing that Slaton coughed up the ball twice though made me laugh regarding his Heisman hopes.
Yeah he's probably out of the race now despite averaging 8.6yd/carry last night (156 total).

One thing I can't believe is that Pat White isn't in discussions for the Heisman, he had 125 yards rushing (5.43yd/carry), 4TDs, and 13-20 for 222 yards passing. He will surpass every rushing record held by Vick (he already has top 2 single game for B.East) and can very much be compared to Vick (he's just as fast as Vick was in college). Yet somehow Brady Quinn is still in the Heisman running after getting blown out to Michigan and having his worst game of the season? If anything, White showed last night how valuable he is, especially after Slaton had to leave the game.

In any case, they'll be back next year and WVU will have a stronger SoS and hopefully work on that horrible secondary. Giving up 19 yards/passing play last night was horrendous, despite the decent run D (the 6 play goal line stand was great).

Heres the thing why White wont be considered seriously for the heisman.....because his team lost. End of story. (And yes I think White is a very good QB)

Ditto with Brady Quinn....he's in the running so to speak but with that loss it kills his chances. His name is only mentioned because he plays for Notre Dame.

At this point someone like Mike Hart from Mich or Troy Smith from OSU have a better shot at it. Heisman winners tend to play in national title games....

I know that sounds biased but thats generally how things roll in college football these days.
I agree with you, Smith and Hart will be favored until one of them loses. I was referring to the fact that sports writers have Quinn at 2nd, only behind Troy Smith so far (yep even ahead of Slaton before last night's game). But yeah it's probably just because he plays for ND, White has more raw talent IMO because he can create with his legs (like Vince Young and Vick did).


I agree what White should be in discussions of Heisman. Personally, I think the Heisman process is a joke so I don't give much credence to it. Most Heisman winners have very lackluster pro careers, so that tells you it is not about the best talent right there.

I don't care, as a ND fan, if Quinn wins any college awards. I care about wins, I also care that he will be the 1st pick in the draft next year and is the best pro prospect at QB.
You think Quinn will go higher than T.Smith? Probably depends on team's offense (pure passer vs scrambler/passer), I think Troy has better all around talent.

As an aside, talk about a bad deal for the Texans, taking M.Williams over Leinart, Bush, and Vince Young. Think they're kicking themselves right now?

Demeco Ryans probably saved someone's job...
 

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I really got to say it isnt fair that WV is/was ranked even in the top 10. Before thursday they played ZERO ranked teams. Louisville played ONE ranked team. Rutgers played ZERO ranked teams.

It would just really be messed up if they gave any of those 3 a chance to be in the championship without playing anyone (but each other, battle of the ZEROs i call it).

My point is that just because your undefeated doesnt mean your acutually good. The battle of the ZERO's is worth nothing becasue they dont play anyone.


The best teams of the year are 1. OSU, 2. Florida, 3. LSU (though they have 2 losses) they can beat any team in the Big East

Also to back up my point the score along with the pathetic defence abilities of the two teams really can define what would happen if they played a good team.
1. they wouldnt score because the havent seen a defence on the field
2. they would give up 500+ yard to the off