**OFFICIAL** 2007 Saturn Outlook, Aura and Sky Redline Details Unveiled (with pics)

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Aharami
the sky is a damn sexy car. But i was just thinking about this on my drive to work today. Even though I like the car, and the price is appealing, I dont think I'd buy the car just cuz it doesnt have a huge following behind it. I like to mod my cars and having a huge enthusiast community behind a car really helps. One of the main reasons I like my GTI is because if something breaks down, or doesnt function properly, I can go over to vwvortex forums , post about my problem, and get insight on what to do. Also it really helps having the help of hundreds of others when you want to mod your car.

Plus, I love the VW get-togethers

ecotec has a HUGE mod base. EXTREMELY LARGE, and GM supported as well.

 

[Chadder007]

Just curious as to why they always lower the liters when adding a turbo or supercharger to an engine.... is it done for reliability?
like with the redline here. 2.0 liter with supercharger, or 2.4 liter without.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
GM needs to bring back the Saturn L-Series. Seriously. Every other fvcking car around here is an L-series. I know more than a dozen people who drive them. They're pieces of crap, but that didn't affect sales. I realize most people hated it, hell, I hate it, but it's more omnipresent than any other vehicle in my experience. Of course, if this isn't the story nationwide...

The early L-series were okay. My gf has an 01 L200 with near 60K miles on it. They custom ordered it from the factory. Unfortunately it did have a couple serious problems early on, mainly a rear main oil seal leak. Then when the morons at the dealership went to fix it, they ****** up and only put a gasket/sealant (don't remember which) on one side or something and not on the other, i.e. worse oil leak. Once fixed, the car ran very nice. I think the only other issue the car had is a couple odd noises from the suspension, they replaced a stabilizer link bar I believe at one point.

The 2.2L Ecotec is an awesome freakin' engine. With GM's standard old 4EAT it is actually rather fun to drive. Pull out on a busy road, plant the throttle half way down, and the engine just stays in the 3-4K RPM range and pulls nicely to accelerate into traffic smoothly. It passes great on the highway and can get 25MPG+ city & 30MPG+ highway :thumbsup:

Now I must say, the interior on the L-series is utter freakin' crap. Besides everything looking like cheap, brittle plastic, there are so many rattles and squeaks in the interior it's not funny. For the past few years we've stuck a wadded up piece of paper in the passenger's side door seal when closing the door to absorb an ultra annoying squeak that happens when my big ass is in the car.

Aside from the interior, the drivetrain rocks and the handling is great. Very little body roll, fells very stable. Horrible understeer of course and a very un-communicative steering setup. I took a hard right turn around 30-40mph and without any warning (very little body roll, no pull from the tires at all) the front tires were just squealing like bitches with severe amounts of understeer. The car peeled through the turn fine and I was no where near losing any kind of control, but you couldn't feel the road pulling at the wheels at all. They just broke free 😛 Part of that is to blame by the tiny 195/60?/15 tires. Guess I'm used to my Subaru, comparatively you can really feel the road.

The exterior was always sharp I thought, simple and styling. The 02's were okay, but I think in 03 they fvcked up the L-series royally with the new front end.

If Saturn made another L-series with a high quality interior, 6-speed auto, and Ecotec engine, I'd hit it :thumbsup:

But then again, GM != quality interior :thumbsdown:

BTW, my gf is selling her Saturn if anyone's interested 😉 She just got a new Civic

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: Chadder007
Just curious as to why they always lower the liters when adding a turbo or supercharger to an engine.... is it done for reliability?
like with the redline here. 2.0 liter with supercharger, or 2.4 liter without.

Don't quote me on this, but something along the lines of smaller displacement able to withstand greater pressures, i.e. boost from SC or turbo. Sure they could make a 2.4L that takes a strong turbo, but they would have to beef up the engine internals to withstand the pressure.

 

[MikeMike]

But then again, GM != quality interior

hmm... i think you will eat your own words, and prolly already do with the Tahoe, and now the Lambda and aura.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: Aharami
the sky is a damn sexy car. But i was just thinking about this on my drive to work today. Even though I like the car, and the price is appealing, I dont think I'd buy the car just cuz it doesnt have a huge following behind it. I like to mod my cars and having a huge enthusiast community behind a car really helps. One of the main reasons I like my GTI is because if something breaks down, or doesnt function properly, I can go over to vwvortex forums , post about my problem, and get insight on what to do. Also it really helps having the help of hundreds of others when you want to mod your car.

Plus, I love the VW get-togethers

ecotec has a HUGE mod base. EXTREMELY LARGE, and GM supported as well.

I wouldn't say it is as huge as most car companies' followings (Honda, Subaru, etc), but it is there. I remember when they turned an Ecotec 2.2L? (in a Cavalier nonetheless?) into something like a 400HP engine on stock internals. When beefing up everything else, the #'s seriously got up there...

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

But then again, GM != quality interior

hmm... i think you will eat your own words, and prolly already do with the Tahoe, and now the Lambda and aura.

Get off of your Dad's Tahoe, jesus christ. I thought the interior of the Z06 Vette was nice, but I was more drooling over other things at that point. However I did sit in a like $70K+ Cadillac and the interior was utter fvcking sh!t. My 9 year old Subaru had a better interior than that thing and I'm not joking. In most GM vehicles, the interiors are crap. When Saturn can put a good interior in the car I described, I'll take a look again. Till then, GM just doesn't really have anything to offer me. (That I can afford 😉)

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: Aharami
the sky is a damn sexy car. But i was just thinking about this on my drive to work today. Even though I like the car, and the price is appealing, I dont think I'd buy the car just cuz it doesnt have a huge following behind it. I like to mod my cars and having a huge enthusiast community behind a car really helps. One of the main reasons I like my GTI is because if something breaks down, or doesnt function properly, I can go over to vwvortex forums , post about my problem, and get insight on what to do. Also it really helps having the help of hundreds of others when you want to mod your car.

Plus, I love the VW get-togethers

ecotec has a HUGE mod base. EXTREMELY LARGE, and GM supported as well.

I wouldn't say it is as huge as most car companies' followings (Honda, Subaru, etc), but it is there. I remember when they turned an Ecotec 2.2L? (in a Cavalier nonetheless?) into something like a 400HP engine on stock internals. When beefing up everything else, the #'s seriously got up there...

Ecotec can hit 2k HP, but thats no where near stock.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

But then again, GM != quality interior

hmm... i think you will eat your own words, and prolly already do with the Tahoe, and now the Lambda and aura.

Get off of your Dad's Tahoe, jesus christ. I thought the interior of the Z06 Vette was nice, but I was more drooling over other things at that point. However I did sit in a like $70K+ Cadillac and the interior was utter fvcking sh!t. My 9 year old Subaru had a better interior than that thing and I'm not joking. In most GM vehicles, the interiors are crap. When Saturn can put a good interior in the car I described, I'll take a look again. Till then, GM just doesn't really have anything to offer me. (That I can afford 😉)

no, the only reason i say that Tahoe is because pple know i HAVE one, when i say that ive sat in the Yukon, the Escalade they dont believe me.

The CTS interior is nice, the GTI interior was very nice.

but the new interiors GM is putting out are top quality, maybe you should get off your own ****** horse and try ****** out.

the vette interior is a POS.

 

[MikeMike]

Here's the full features list from media.gm.com:

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2007 SATURN AURA STANDARD AND OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT

AURA XE
Standard content:
3.5L V-6 with VVT
4-speed automatic transmission
4-wheel disc brakes with ABS
Traction control
17-inch wheels with full cover
P225/50R17, touring blackwall tires
Single chrome exhaust tip outlet
Hydraulic power steering
LED tail lamps
Daytime running lamps
Dual-stage frontal air bags
Head curtain side-impact air bags (front and rear)
Side-impact air bags (driver and front passenger)
Air conditioning
AM/FM/CD radio with MP3 capability and 6-speaker sound system
Center console with dual-bin storage and 12-volt power source
Cruise control
Rear defogger
Power door locks
Driver information center
Carpeted floor mats
Remote keyless entry
2-way power height adjustable driver seat
60/40-split folding rear seat
Retained accessory power
Tilting/telescopic steering column
PASS-Key III theft-deterrent
Power remote trunk release
Power windows with driver express up/down
Body-color door handles
Bright bodyside and window reveal moldings
Automatic headlamp control
Intermittent windshield wiper control
OnStar with one-year Safe and Sound service

Optional equipment:
17-inch cast aluminum wheels
17-inch bright-chromed wheel trim
AM/FM radio with in-dash 6-CD changer and MP3 capability
Saturn Advanced Audio System
XM Satellite Radio
Premium floor mats
Auto-dimming inside rearview mirror with compass display
Power-adjustable pedals
Premium trim package with leather-appointed front seats, steering wheel and shift knob
Remote vehicle starter system
8-way power-adjustable driver seat
6-way power-adjustable front passenger seat
Heated driver and front passenger seats
Steering wheel audio controls
Power sunroof
Panoramic power roof with four retractable panels
Heated, power-adjustable outside rearview mirrors
Universal home remote

AURA XR(equipment in addition to or substituted for XE standard content)
Standard content:
3.6L DOHC V-6 with VVT
6-speed automatic transmission
Dual chrome exhaust tip outlets
Steering wheel manual shift control
StabiliTrak electronic stability control
18-inch ultra-bright alloy wheels
P225/50R18 touring blackwall tires
Fog lamps, projector beam-type
AM/FM radio with in-dash 6-CD changer and MP3 capability
Saturn Advanced Audio System
Remote vehicle starter system
Heated driver and front passenger seats
Auto-dimming interior rearview mirror with compass display
Universal home remote
8-way power-adjustable driver seat
Steering wheel audio controls
Bright door handles
OnStar with one-year Safe and Sound plan

Optional equipment:
XM Satellite Radio
Premium floor mats
Power-adjustable pedals
Premium trim package with leather-appointed front seats, steering wheel and shift knob
6-way power-adjustable front passenger seat
Power sunroof
Panoramic power roof with four retractable panels
Burl trim appliqués

AURA COLOR SELECTION
Exterior:
Berry Red
Black Onyx
Bronzed Pewter
Cream White
Golden Cashmere
Midnight Blue
Ocean Mist
Silver Pearl
Techno Grey

Interior:
Grey
Tan
Black
Morocco Brown

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[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

But then again, GM != quality interior

hmm... i think you will eat your own words, and prolly already do with the Tahoe, and now the Lambda and aura.

Get off of your Dad's Tahoe, jesus christ. I thought the interior of the Z06 Vette was nice, but I was more drooling over other things at that point. However I did sit in a like $70K+ Cadillac and the interior was utter fvcking sh!t. My 9 year old Subaru had a better interior than that thing and I'm not joking. In most GM vehicles, the interiors are crap. When Saturn can put a good interior in the car I described, I'll take a look again. Till then, GM just doesn't really have anything to offer me. (That I can afford 😉)

no, the only reason i say that Tahoe is because pple know i HAVE one, when i say that ive sat in the Yukon, the Escalade they dont believe me.

The CTS interior is nice, the GTI interior was very nice.

but the new interiors GM is putting out are top quality, maybe you should get off your own ****** horse and try ****** out.

the vette interior is a POS.

I did sit in the cars dipshit. Raleigh Auto Show, sat in just about everything there. Some GM's were okay, but every Cadillac I sat in (They wouldn't let me in the 16 :laugh😉 was just sh!t for how expensive it was. I'm sure some Cadillacs are okay, but when you compare them to competing models from other companies, they just don't have anything special.

But then what am I thinking, arguing with 24-Hour-Hardon-For-GM-Boy.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

But then again, GM != quality interior

hmm... i think you will eat your own words, and prolly already do with the Tahoe, and now the Lambda and aura.

Get off of your Dad's Tahoe, jesus christ. I thought the interior of the Z06 Vette was nice, but I was more drooling over other things at that point. However I did sit in a like $70K+ Cadillac and the interior was utter fvcking sh!t. My 9 year old Subaru had a better interior than that thing and I'm not joking. In most GM vehicles, the interiors are crap. When Saturn can put a good interior in the car I described, I'll take a look again. Till then, GM just doesn't really have anything to offer me. (That I can afford 😉)

no, the only reason i say that Tahoe is because pple know i HAVE one, when i say that ive sat in the Yukon, the Escalade they dont believe me.

The CTS interior is nice, the GTI interior was very nice.

but the new interiors GM is putting out are top quality, maybe you should get off your own ****** horse and try ****** out.

the vette interior is a POS.

I did sit in the cars dipshit. Raleigh Auto Show, sat in just about everything there. Some GM's were okay, but every Cadillac I sat in (They wouldn't let me in the 16 :laugh😉 was just sh!t for how expensive it was. I'm sure some Cadillacs are okay, but when you compare them to competing models from other companies, they just don't have anything special.

But then what am I thinking, arguing with 24-Hour-Hardon-For-GM-Boy.

the CTS is not up to par, the STS is close, the DTS is old enough.

The Escalade is right up there with the best, and ahead of them in some cases...

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: Vic
I'm not too hip on Saturn styling but the Opel engineering is a big plus. Can't wait to see what the new Opel GT looks like.

edit: nm, found it on Wiki. It looks just like the Sky Redline. Not bad though, I was just hoping for a more fitting tribute to the original.

yea, its not quite an ME RWD car anymore.

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