Offered a job, salary offered is lower than expected.

SunnyD

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What is the proper etiquette to counter an offer that is below what you are gunning for - assuming what you're gunning for is realistic?
 

BigJ

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Counter with several thousand higher and explain why you feel you're worth more. If you are lucky, they'll meet you in the middle. Be prepared to walk away if you don't need the job.
 

sygyzy

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Ask for a 15% raise, and they'll counter at 12%. Remember to employ some sound negotiation techniques such as whispering, refusing to be the first to talk, or leaving the room abruptly.
 

markgm

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Dear person:



I am excited about the offer you extended during our conversation and look forward to joining Company. I feel confident I will make a significant contribution to the growth of Company as a Position Title. The terms you have described in the offer are acceptable, with a few minor changes.


Base Salary: $what they offered per annum

I am currently making more at my current job, though I am excited about what this new job offers there are additional expenses such as parking. Based on the above, I would like you to consider as a compromise a base salary of $what i really want.



If you could see to making this modest improvement to your offer, my performance will show you a handsome return. I am prepared to hit the ground running as part of Company, and put all of my leadership and technical knowledge to great use.



Sincerely,


Edit: Something like that, though it kind of took some punch away as I stripped all identifying information off of it, along with other requests. You get the point though.
 

classy

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Originally posted by: markgm
Dear person:



I am excited about the offer you extended during our conversation and look forward to joining Company. I feel confident I will make a significant contribution to the growth of Company as a Position Title. The terms you have described in the offer are acceptable, with a few minor changes.


Base Salary: $what they offered per annum

I am currently making more at my current job, though I am excited about what this new job offers there are additional expenses such as parking. Based on the above, I would like you to consider as a compromise a base salary of $what i really want.



If you could see to making this modest improvement to your offer, my performance will show you a handsome return. I am prepared to hit the ground running as part of Company, and put all of my leadership and technical knowledge to great use.



Sincerely,


Edit: Something like that, though it kind of took some punch away as I stripped all identifying information off of it, along with other requests. You get the point though.

:thumbsup:

Also if the job is paying more than you make now and will help you grow in your field of work, taking less now may be worthwhile consideration.
 

redgtxdi

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Well, since we're sending this country's labor force to hell in a handbasket.......just remember...........the days of Americans getting what they want are just about over.

When outsourcing labor (despite mistakes, time delays, etc.) is only a fraction (forget about half......we're talkin' 1/4 nowadays a.k.a. Thailand) of what it costs to do here in America..........boy you'd better be searchin' for a job in a VERY logistically-needed field or you can take your (but I can do compound spreadsheets, have MCSE, abcd, LMNOP ) resume and take a hike!

The days of underpaid labor are coming to roost!

:thumbsup:

Are you good at mowing.......err............nevermind........got it covered! ;)
 

AmphibSailor

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If the offer is inline with the average salary for that type of work then I would not try to negotiate much more unless you are bringing a lot more than average skills/capability to the job. Other things to consider in the process are vacation time and other benefits. If they won't budge on salary, ask for another week of vacation time. Look at the whole compensation package. Its more than the salary. Check out salary dot com for an estimate of the average salary in your area.

I just went through a similar experience. After negotiating with two companies, I ended up choosing the job that paid a significant amount less... I gained some very important fringe benefits that more than equalized the compensation packages.
 

jinduy

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never counter with something less than what you think you deserve... otherwise you're going to be disappointed no matter what
 

Wuffsunie

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Originally posted by: her209
Do you have a second offer to use as leverage?
That's probably your best bet. Have something to show them to prove someone else wants you, too. See if they'll fight to keep you.
 

SunnyD

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Originally posted by: AmphibSailor
If the offer is inline with the average salary for that type of work then I would not try to negotiate much more unless you are bringing a lot more than average skills/capability to the job. Other things to consider in the process are vacation time and other benefits. If they won't budge on salary, ask for another week of vacation time. Look at the whole compensation package. Its more than the salary. Check out salary dot com for an estimate of the average salary in your area.

I just went through a similar experience. After negotiating with two companies, I ended up choosing the job that paid a significant amount less... I gained some very important fringe benefits that more than equalized the compensation packages.

That's the thing. The benefits and especially the vacation/sick time at the new place plain suck. For starters, I would lose benefits for 90 days, plus for the first year there is zero vacation. Not to mention I would pay pretty much double or more for the same level of health insurance I currently have, I would lose life insurance, among other things.
 

Shortcut

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tell them you are having a weird day (e.g. you found out your shipping clerk makes as much as you, that you wore women's clothing to work, that you had to carpool with your @sshole HR rep). hopefully, they'll understand and offer you 12%.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: AmphibSailor
If the offer is inline with the average salary for that type of work then I would not try to negotiate much more unless you are bringing a lot more than average skills/capability to the job. Other things to consider in the process are vacation time and other benefits. If they won't budge on salary, ask for another week of vacation time. Look at the whole compensation package. Its more than the salary. Check out salary dot com for an estimate of the average salary in your area.

I just went through a similar experience. After negotiating with two companies, I ended up choosing the job that paid a significant amount less... I gained some very important fringe benefits that more than equalized the compensation packages.

That's the thing. The benefits and especially the vacation/sick time at the new place plain suck. For starters, I would lose benefits for 90 days, plus for the first year there is zero vacation. Not to mention I would pay pretty much double or more for the same level of health insurance I currently have, I would lose life insurance, among other things.

Why are you looking for a new job, and what's the percentage difference between your current salary and the new offer?
 

Penth

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See if they'll throw in a $100 gas card every year... you can't put a price on that.
 

AnyMal

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: AmphibSailor
If the offer is inline with the average salary for that type of work then I would not try to negotiate much more unless you are bringing a lot more than average skills/capability to the job. Other things to consider in the process are vacation time and other benefits. If they won't budge on salary, ask for another week of vacation time. Look at the whole compensation package. Its more than the salary. Check out salary dot com for an estimate of the average salary in your area.

I just went through a similar experience. After negotiating with two companies, I ended up choosing the job that paid a significant amount less... I gained some very important fringe benefits that more than equalized the compensation packages.

That's the thing. The benefits and especially the vacation/sick time at the new place plain suck. For starters, I would lose benefits for 90 days, plus for the first year there is zero vacation. Not to mention I would pay pretty much double or more for the same level of health insurance I currently have, I would lose life insurance, among other things.

You must be REALLY miserable at your old job to even consider something like this.