Off Topic Crap From OT 9/11 Remembrance Thred

[sm625]

TBH I don't think it's healthy to keep remembering 9/11.

In this culture is is not healthy to remember anything, only that your government loves you. Never study history! Avoid that like the plague. In fact, do not study anything. Now drink your fluoride and take your antidepressants.

 

[Darwin333]

You don't think ISIS is a government? You don't think the Taliban is? We know where they are, we just lack the political will to stop them.

Correct me if I am wrong but aren't they mixed in with civilians of countries that aren't on ISIS sides? "Complete and total submission" requires quite extensive use of military might like how it was done in WWII. Firebombing entire cities, carpet bombing the shit out of areas hoping to hit a munitions factory and eventually dropping two nuclear bombs.

Are you saying that is what we should do to a non-nation military force?

 

[shira]

Except Pearl Harbor hasn't happened again for 74 years by japan or germany. Why? Because we initiated a total war using the greatest military assembled with over 100 aircraft carriers, 20 battleships, 12 million armed men, and a bomber fleet so large it could lay waste to vast cities in a day through the use of the worst non nuclear weapons available, and then the atomic bomb.

To think that WW2 was only internment camps is silly. It was a war of submission and total destruction, which was carried out with iron will.

Had we done the same to Afghanistan it would be gone. Iraq would be gone. Isis would be gone and the only people left would be those who are utterly broken a d massively grateful they are even alive. They would be rebuilding like Germany and Japan under the iron will of people like McArthur and Marshall.

Ohh, wow, the WOT and droning is so horrible!


We wouldn't even need half the stuff we did domestically if we had carried out a total war and prosecuted it to the fullest extent available and told the rest of the world to get in line.

ISIS was a direct consequence of our "overwhelming power" in Iraq. ISIS leaders are almost entirely ex-Iraq military, because we went in without any concept of what we were actually doing. What we accomplished was destabilizing the entire region.

But you think it would be a good idea to commit 12 million American soldiers to the ME. That's how many trillions of dollars, spent to accomplish exactly what?

But let me guess: This is the type of macho thing Les the "highly decorated" barber talked about in his manly way while he gave your father, you and your brother haircuts.

You are such a moron.

 

[yllus]

You don't think ISIS is a government? You don't think the Taliban is? We know where they are, we just lack the political will to stop them.

You're not wrong - this would be a regular and irregular war akin to a land invasion and occupation of Japan in 1945 sans nuclear bomb. Or at least akin to Vietnam. Not many countries have the political will and grit for that job.

I think it's unnecessary in any case. ISIS may be full of assholes, and maybe they do in fact launch the odd terrorist attack in the continental U.S., but you know what? That's just going to happen when you've got the kind of hegemony over the world the U.S. does. Spending into the trillions to try to guarantee zero casualties forever strikes me as rather silly, even if it is being spent on killing people who I sure as hell don't want walking around.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

ISIS was a direct consequence of our "overwhelming power" in Iraq. ISIS leaders are almost entirely ex-Iraq military, because we went in without any concept of what we were actually doing. What we accomplished was destabilizing the entire region.

But you think it would be a good idea to commit 12 million American soldiers to the ME. That's how many trillions of dollars, spent to accomplish exactly what?

But let me guess: This is the type of macho thing Les the "highly decorated" barber talked about in his manly way while he gave your father, you and your brother haircuts.

You are such a moron.

From what I've read, ISIS leaders are approximately 1/3 ex-Iraq military, primarily because al Baghdadi prefers military leadership so he actively recruits them. Let's face it, he's not going to be recruiting Assad's troops. He is pretty much limited to ex-Iraqi military...when he can get his hands on them.

Our real mistake was not axing Baghdadi when we had the chance in Bacca. If we had though the left would have screamed from the rooftops. That's what happens when you give terrorists a second chance. Not for all of them, but all it takes is one.

So you can thank people like yourself for ISIS. If we had a thumbs down attitude ISIS wouldn't exist today. Congrats. Kindness to terrorists can backfire, as it has with ISIS. Pat yourself on the back instead of being a condescending a-hole about someone's barber.