Off-duty cops kills kid, doesn't get indicted

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GarfieldtheCat

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http://abc13.com/archive/9326265/

http://abc13.com/news/navasota-officer-wont-face-charges-for-fatally-shooting-teen/281936/

Almost a year later, a grand jury didn't indict the off-duty officer, who while in plain clothes, and even wearing a hoodie, approached the kids in their car with his gun drawn. The kids thought they were getting robbed, and backed up and tried to escape, and pinned the officer between two cars. He opened fired and killed the kid.

A witness said he never identified himself as a cop, and just advanced with his gun drawn. But he still gets away with killing a kid.

As usual, someone got video but the cop made him stop filming, and threatened to take his phone if he didn't stop. Not like that ever happens, either.

So a guy in a hoodie has a gun, and they aren't allowed to defend themselves? could have sworn that many posters say that they were in fear of their life, and allowed to defend themselves. I mean, the guy had a hoodie.
 

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Do cops get special training in stopping people from recording video? It seems pretty much universal.

The witness with the video said that the cop works as a private security guard in that apartment complex. “He just walks around and, like, he’s kind of a bully,” Yarbrough said. “Like, he’ll walk up to people and he’ll be, like, ‘What are you doing outside? It’s after 9 o’clock,’ and, like, I’m a grown man.”

What kind of douche thinks its OK to confront a grown ass man and demand reasons for why they are outside after 9PM?
 

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If
Garza said the driver threw the car in reverse and hit him
is true then it was an assault with a deadly weapon.

If...

Was the video of the incident of after?
 

ch33zw1z

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If is true then it was an assault with a deadly weapon.

If...

Was the video of the incident of after?

some guy with a gun runs up to your car, you throw the car in gear and hit the gas, sounds like self defense to me.
 

highland145

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some guy with a gun runs up to your car, you throw the car in gear and hit the gas, sounds like self defense to me.
Yeah, I'm probably going to have to go with that but I would like more info. There wasn't a reasonable expectation to think he was a cop. Could the driver have put it in drive and drive away from the cop instead of at him? And, out of curiosity, was there drugs involved?
 

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Yeah, I'm probably going to have to go with that but I would like more info. There wasn't a reasonable expectation to think he was a cop. Could the driver have put it in drive and drive away from the cop instead of at him? And, out of curiosity, was there drugs involved?

One of the articles speaks about possible drug involvement being the reason for the off duty officer to go over there.

One of the articles has quoted from tenants saying the officer is a bully and "patrols" the neighborhood.

Could the driver put the car in Drive instead, don't know, we don't have enough information. But let's remember the driver was 17, maybe new to driving. I've seen adults with 20 years experience put the car in the wrong gear and hit the gas.

I agree, we need more information. But apparently there was enough information to not charge the officer with anything.
 

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One of the articles speaks about possible drug involvement being the reason for the off duty officer to go over there.

One of the articles has quoted from tenants saying the officer is a bully and "patrols" the neighborhood.

Could the driver put the car in Drive instead, don't know, we don't have enough information. But let's remember the driver was 17, maybe new to driving. I've seen adults with 20 years experience put the car in the wrong gear and hit the gas.

I agree, we need more information. But apparently there was enough information to not charge the officer with anything.
YMMV...at our grand jury, the detective gives the "facts" of the case. No other witnesses or testimony are presented so I could see how information could get "blurred" because of cop bias. In nearly 2 years, we've had 1 no bill.
 

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Generally, it is very easy (some would say too easy) to get an indictment. The fact that the grand jury refused to indict would seem to indicate that there's more information to this story than what was in the article linked. Some guy who doesn't identify as a cop pulls a gun, I think pretty much any action (including running him down) should be considered self defense.
 

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Generally, it is very easy (some would say too easy) to get an indictment. The fact that the grand jury refused to indict would seem to indicate that there's more information to this story than what was in the article linked. Some guy who doesn't identify as a cop pulls a gun, I think pretty much any action (including running him down) should be considered self defense.

Or it shows that the fix was in, and the local DA made sure to a pro-cop viewpoint to the grand jury to make sure he wasn't indicted.
 
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