Of all the current running backs in the NFL...

Cuda1447

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Who do you think is the most likely to have a shot at Emmitts record? (Obviously, it may be difficult for ANY of them, but Im wondering who you think has the best shot at it?)



If I had to pick, I'd probably go with Ladanian Tomlinson.
 

shimsham

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the next back to play 15 seasons, and average 1200yds/season during that time.

hmm....doesnt seem so special when you look at it like that.
 

Cuda1447

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1200 yards a year for 15 years seems impressive to me.



Ok how bout this, who do you think will be the next back to break the 2,000 yard barrier?
 

shimsham

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the next one to play on a team with the calibur of Oline that the boys had in the mid 90s even he couldnt do it tho.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: shimsham
the next back to play 15 seasons, and average 1200yds/season during that time.

hmm....doesnt seem so special when you look at it like that.

:roll:

do you know anything about running backs?

The key to having career records like Emmitt's is DURABILITY. You act like 1200 yards/season isn't hard, but it is over 15 seasons. Guys like Priest Holmes who have very average careers due to injuries and whatnot, and have a few big years, dont get career records. Most running backs can't get 25 carries a game for 15 seasons without getting hurt AND rack up decent yards.
 

Deeko

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That being said, the best RB in the league(who is also pretty young), is Tomlinson.
 

Cuda1447

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Curtis Martin is getting up there on the all time list isn't he? I know he's old, but he's also proven that he's durable.
 

Deeko

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Curtis Martin is playing well, but he's in his 11th season and he's 5,000 yards behind. Not to mention Emmitt is still playing. He won't do it.
 

shimsham

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218 career games. 4274 carries. thats an average of 19.6 carries a game, 4.2yds per carry. now, factor in he was behind the great Oline in dallas for the first 11 seasons, and so few injuries(which you can train to avoid, but its mostly blind luck) and i can see plenty of backs doing the same thing in that situation.

id say its more indicative of dallas as a team in the 90s, than how great emmitt is. check his numbers in ari. theyre not taht impressive. a major chunk of his yards this year came from the saints stinkin it up and giving the cards their first win.



 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: shimsham
218 career games. 4274 carries. thats an average of 19.6 carries a game, 4.2yds per carry. now, factor in he was behind the great Oline in dallas for the first 11 seasons, and so few injuries(which you can train to avoid, but its mostly blind luck) and i can see plenty of backs doing the same thing in that situation.

id say its more indicative of dallas as a team in the 90s, than how great emmitt is. check his numbers in ari. theyre not taht impressive. a major chunk of his yards this year came from the saints stinkin it up and giving the cards their first win.

You're a fool if you don't think Emmitt is a great back. You're a fool to use his 15th season numbers against him. How many running backs even PLAY in their 15th season? Emmitt is not the best RB of all time. But to try to detract from what he's done is ridiculous. Stop talking before you make yourself look even dumber.
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: shimsham
218 career games. 4274 carries. thats an average of 19.6 carries a game, 4.2yds per carry. now, factor in he was behind the great Oline in dallas for the first 11 seasons, and so few injuries(which you can train to avoid, but its mostly blind luck) and i can see plenty of backs doing the same thing in that situation.

id say its more indicative of dallas as a team in the 90s, than how great emmitt is. check his numbers in ari. theyre not taht impressive. a major chunk of his yards this year came from the saints stinkin it up and giving the cards their first win.

You do realize that he's over 35 years old (in the NFL they consider you on the downside of a RB career at the age of 30, he's 5 years over that). This year he's STILL averaging 4.0yrds a carry and at the half way point he's got 523yrds and 5 TD's. Not exactly like the numbers he's had in his prime, but pretty good considering the line he's playing behind and the team in general. He could end up with over a 1,000 for the year.

This is after 15 years!!!
 

shimsham

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i never said he wasnt a great back, thats not the question. the question is, who do you think could break his record. when i look at the stats, i think there are plenty of backs that could do it if they are lucky enough to have a career that lasts so long and injury free with an Oline to clear the way like he had.

the only "fool" in the thread is the "dumb"ass getting all worked up over a sport when someone has a different opinion than they do. yes, thats you deeko.
 

Deeko

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I'll take that as a "ok fine deeko, you're right and I'm an idiot".

thanks for conceding.
 

shimsham

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Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: shimsham
218 career games. 4274 carries. thats an average of 19.6 carries a game, 4.2yds per carry. now, factor in he was behind the great Oline in dallas for the first 11 seasons, and so few injuries(which you can train to avoid, but its mostly blind luck) and i can see plenty of backs doing the same thing in that situation.

id say its more indicative of dallas as a team in the 90s, than how great emmitt is. check his numbers in ari. theyre not taht impressive. a major chunk of his yards this year came from the saints stinkin it up and giving the cards their first win.

You do realize that he's over 35 years old (in the NFL they consider you on the downside of a RB career at the age of 30, he's 5 years over that). This year he's STILL averaging 4.0yrds a carry and at the half way point he's got 523yrds and 5 TD's. Not exactly like the numbers he's had in his prime, but pretty good considering the line he's playing behind and the team in general. He could end up with over a 1,000 for the year.

This is after 15 years!!!


thats my point. put martin, tomlinson, mcallister, george, etc, etc, in the same timeline and team, and there are plenty of backs that could do it. will any of them? doubtful since, as you pointed out, its rare for a back to last that long.

they won 3 bowls in the 90s. what other career would you expect him to have on that team?
 

shimsham

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Originally posted by: Deeko
I'll take that as a "ok fine deeko, you're right and I'm an idiot".

thanks for conceding.



whatever helps you sleep at night. sure dont wont you tossing and turning because someone isnt jumping on emmitts jock with you.
 

Deeko

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:roll:

Who was the 49ers RB during their Superbowl years in the late 80's early 90's?
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: Deeko
I'll take that as a "ok fine deeko, you're right and I'm an idiot".

thanks for conceding.



whatever helps you sleep at night. sure dont wont you tossing and turning because someone isnt jumping on emmitts jock with you.

cry me a river shimsham, cry me a river
 

shimsham

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: Deeko
I'll take that as a "ok fine deeko, you're right and I'm an idiot".

thanks for conceding.



whatever helps you sleep at night. sure dont wont you tossing and turning because someone isnt jumping on emmitts jock with you.

cry me a river shimsham, cry me a river


who started throwing a tantrum and personal insults because someone answered a question in a way they didnt agree with? dont think im the one crying here....
 

Deeko

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I said you were a fool for understating Emmitt's accomplishments. You're the one who's ego got hurt when I called you out.
 

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Curtis Martin is getting up there on the all time list isn't he? I know he's old, but he's also proven that he's durable.

good job. martin is the only one with a realistic chance of catching emmitt.

you really can't talk about a players chances to get a record like emmitt's till they've had 6 to 8 good injury free seasons.

LT, Priest Holmes, J Lewis, Tiki Barber none of those guys have a chance.

even marshall faulk (as good as any in his prime) really doesn't have much of a shot at getting emmitts record.

sure it's just a record of durability (like Aarons HR record) but to dismiss it as non impressive BECAUSE it's primarily durability is just plain stupid.

it is what it is, an impressive record, and emmitt year in and year out, tho not necessarily the BEST rb in the game was definitely a top 5 for almost every season he played for the cowboys. shoot, even with the cardinals, emmitt is still capable of breaking big games, tho he wouldn't even crack the top 20 in rbs this year.

 

shimsham

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my ego isnt so tender that someone could hurt it by disagreeing with an observation made. especially about something so trivial as emmitts stats.

but, hey, you can think whatever you need to to get your epenis stiffy.
 

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Originally posted by: shimsham
i never said he wasnt a great back, thats not the question. the question is, who do you think could break his record. when i look at the stats, i think there are plenty of backs that could do it if they are lucky enough to have a career that lasts so long and injury free with an Oline to clear the way like he had.

the only "fool" in the thread is the "dumb"ass getting all worked up over a sport when someone has a different opinion than they do. yes, thats you deeko.

you are an idiot, because despite dallas great OLine emmitt was without question a top 5 mb even a top 3 back EVERY season he played for the cowboys except mb his last 2.

it's a chicken egg, was the OLine great so emmitt got all those yds? or did emmitt getting all those yds make the OLine look better?


i say it's a little of each. regardless, emmitt is a top 3 rb all time. sure barry was better in his prime but he was a quitter bottom line. payton went thru the same sh1t barry did for YEARS but he stuck it out with his team and eventually won a superbowl, but do you think payton would have quit like that sissy barry if his team never won?? NO.

barry in my opinion will never rank with emmitt, jim brown, oj simpson (yes i did say OJ), walter payton and even tony dorsett.