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Odds of Biden stepping down


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gothuevos

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Jul 28, 2010
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"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

If true, isn't this the same kind of stuff we slam Trump for? Loyalty to the man/party over country. If he loses, and it's confirmed that Hunter and Jill were the holdouts that kept him going...damn

 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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Apologies, MrSQ, couldn't find it. But, I swear, a couple of days ago I read an article on an non-sketchy site that said that although Harris general polling was similar or better than Biden's, she critically lagged in 5 big swing states, which I know included Michigan and my native Pa.

But there's plenty of unlovely news out there for Ms. Harris, for whom, let me be clear, I would give my left testicle to vote for for President if she becomes the Dem nominee.


I always felt that Harris was a terrible Biden blunder, that she was politically ambitious but shallow in character. As far as Biden voluntarily stepping aside, I can't imagine he wouldn't if felt he wasn't up to the job. And I can't imagine him not getting a professional assessment as to his condition.


Edit to correct typo hid to his.
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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A black woman who is the sitting VP getting shoved aside for a generally unlikeable swarmy white dude who has a fraction of her support would be a total disaster.

Kamla is a total disaster waiting to happen.


That 1 video alone is her Willie Horton
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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I remember in 2020 people saying Biden was going to lose to Trump and then Biden beat Trump by 8 million votes.

I think we should give the American people the benefit of the doubt. I see no reason why those nearly 80 million people would vote any different. And surely we can all agree that Trump hasn’t narrowed that gap since.

Right? 34 felony convictions, an insurrection and 1 huge dumpster fire of a SCOTUS later... Hey let's bring back the Russian asset who will fuck the economy again while destroying the court even more!

I hope Biden goes more offensive though. Make Cadet Bonespurs wear shitty job performance with months of golf, Jan 6th, felony convictions and a ruined SCOTUS.

Challenge Trump to drug test. :grin:
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Right? 34 felony convictions, an insurrection and 1 huge dumpster fire of a SCOTUS later... Hey let's bring back the Russian asset who will fuck the economy again while destroying the court even more!
If only his opponent, our President, could speak like that.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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So I watched the interview with Georgie. Sure seemed like George had an agenda...push Biden into dropping out of the race. It certainly wasn't Biden's strongest performance, but it wasn't terrible. One thing that caught my attention. He said that even when the microphones were off, Trump kept yelling. WTF happened to the guy who told him "Would you just shut up, man!" a few years ago?
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
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WTF happened to the guy who told him "Would you just shut up, man!" a few years ago?
Sadly that ship has sailed and it isn't coming back. Biden reminds me of my own dad in that he's stuck in the past always talking about things he did a long time ago but not about what he isn't doing today. We're in trouble if he isn't replaced ASAP.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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your delusional.

And you're in denial. You clearly underestimate the way conservaterrorists weaponize silly shit.

The did it successfully to Carter, Mondale, Dukakkis, Gore, Kerry, Hillary and tried it very hard against Clinton, Obama and Biden in just my lifetime.

Have you forgotten swift boats?? They didn't even have a video and yet they sold it successfully.

American elections aren't determined on the best points of the candidates. They're determined by the Least Common Denominator -- the stupid fucks who can't decide on facts and are swayed by the stupidest shit.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Oh really you haven't seen some Democrats here absolutely dismiss Joe Biden's negatives and incompetency as no big deal or that him stepping down and replacing him is absolutely the wrong thing to do? They are entertaining it, and saying hell the fuck no that's just completely ridiculous.
That's not being in a cult.

How do you not understand simple things?
 
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ivwshane

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May 15, 2000
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Exactly! Dems are their own worst enemies. Do you know how I know this? Because the right has been silent on this relatively speaking, that is, the people complaining about this the loudest are on the left. It’s fucking Bernie bros 2.0.
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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Biden is a poor choice. There is no point in history where he would be considered a choice at all. He should never have considered running again. Dems have numerous competent people they could select from. One of them should be the nominee. There is still time to choose someone else.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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That's neat and all, but it's ignoring the fact that Biden's age will have a chilling effect at the ballot box. A full 86% of Americans think Biden is too old for a second term.


If I want to shit on the Democratic party for making this their best path forward it's within my goddamned right as an American to do so. This country is teetering on the edge of a revolution either in it's party structures or in it's entire governance model and talking heads are trying to tell us that a human born in the middle of the second world war is definitely the most appropriate person to represent us at this time. It's bananas and it's okay to say that.
 

eelw

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Dec 4, 1999
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That's neat and all, but it's ignoring the fact that Biden's age will have a chilling effect at the ballot box. A full 86% of Americans think Biden is too old for a second term.
But all those same polls say a more think the orange monkey is more mentally competent than Biden. As much as age has struck Biden, what idiots can still say the orange monkey is more mentally fit > _ <
 
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[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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But all those same polls say a more think the orange monkey is more mentally competent than Biden. As much as age has struck Biden, what idiots can still say the orange monkey is more mentally fit > _ <
Realistically, they're both unfit from an age perspective. Practically, Republicans care a lot less because they have much, much lower standards.
 
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MrSquished

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Indus is actually showing what would happen if there was a candidate swap: the media would find some new flaws to latch onto.
Imagine saying that we can excuse the incompetence of a candidate because any candidate we put up will be attacked, so it's okay to completely dismiss the reality that the very serious criticism of our candidate is completely valid, So let's be deranged about it because people are going to criticize anyway. Also let me post some tweets from some blogger as if they are authoritative. After I just stated complete craziness.

Imagine saying who the candidate is doesn't matter in an election. Which is basically what you just said. That's fucking insane.

People are literally typing this and think they're not in a cult.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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This really is the Emperors new cloths story. It's been obvious for at least a year and a half that Biden's mind is going, but most people refused to see it. After one debate it's suddenly an emergency and the democrats are floundering because they think it's to late to do anything about it. This wasn't a surprise, it wasn't something that happened overnight. Everyone close to Joe knew he was failing and decided that he'd be a handy sock puppet to prop up for a few more years. Then he shit the bed on national tv and now the "secret" is out. Did that change anything? Nope! Joe is now going to run as the first zombie candidate in U.S. history, and all the people that can do something about it won't because even a demented sock puppet is better than losing.

We're fucked.
 
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MrSquished

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A demented sock puppet is certainly better than electing Trump.
What's your point. As we know That is true. But guess what, You still have to win an election with the electorate we have and the electoral map we have. That means you have to have the right candidate too. Or do you believe the American electorate is just one big rational logical entity that doesn't vote with emotion at all or feelings?
 
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Polling seems somewhat mixed still, given the last week.

Imagine saying that we can excuse the incompetence of a candidate because any candidate we put up will be attacked, so it's okay to completely dismiss the reality that the very serious criticism of our candidate is completely valid, So let's be deranged about it because people are going to criticize anyway. Also let me post some tweets from some blogger as if they are authoritative. After I just stated complete craziness.

Imagine saying who the candidate is doesn't matter in an election. Which is basically what you just said. That's fucking insane.

People are literally typing this and think they're not in a cult.
Democratic Derangement Syndrome is real, and we shouldn't act like the media is some independent actor who is "just reporting on what everyone knows". They just constantly love to push "dems in disarray" style stories, because that's what draws clicks, and some people latch onto those self-destructive stories like lampreys. Candidates certainly matter, and Harris could be a better choice. But the way forward, regardless of the path selected, is far from clear, and the media will continue to do what it does.
 
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