Odds of Biden stepping down, being replaced. Choose.

[nickqt]

I never said it wasn't important. I simply said that the Dems are already clear winners if this is the primary or single issue for a voter. I dont think it is going to turn the tide again for the Dems like it sort of did in the 2022 midterms. And even then, all it did was prevent a red wave that would have been a disaster. With all the crazies in the Rep party, if the Dems had a clear, appealing mainstream message and presented it effectively, they should have taken a clear majority in both houses.

Over 50% of voters have or had a uterus. Reminding them that Republicans support rapists' rights in choosing the mother of their children is a very powerful message Harris can make on day 1. There's a lot of women in Republican households that could use a reminding of that. And the voting booth is a private place where those Republican-voting women might just decide to not vote for the Republican policy of supporting rapists' rights.

Harris needs to communicate on quite a few policy issues, but the right of a woman to control her own body and life is easily at the top of that policy list.

She needs to get young voters who were going to sit out or vote RFK or for Skibidi Toilet to vote for her. She needs to repeat what she's already said, that marijuana should be legal, not just rescheduled.

She also needs to roll out an economic program that dumps jobs into rural areas. Not re-training... jobs. There's 1000 ways to do that.

She also needs to not mention the word "gun" in any way shape or form over the next 4 months, as that doesn't net one voter anywhere on US soil.

 

[Muse]

I changed from 0% chance initially to 50% after last week.

I never cast a vote. heh

 

[dlerious]

I went from 30 to 50 to 10%, I really thought Biden had solidified support and beaten down the rebellion.

Anyway, what about a Harris/Obama ticket?

Barack Obama can't be VP. 22nd amendment says 2 terms and 12th amendment says "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States"

 

[brycejones]

Some people like the middle; "left wing agendas" can lose you elections. The Dems have basically lost the middle already, going too far into identity politics. I just saw one of Kamala's statements since becoming the presumptive nominee. Did she address the economy, the border, international unrest? No, the first thing she pounded on, as she has done continuously, was reproductive rights. I am all for a reasonable policy on allowing abortion (something along the lines of Roe v Wade), but to anyone whose primary concern is this issue, the Dems are already the clear winner. Move on to other issues. Try to win back independents, and "the middle".

“Identity politics” code for I want to be able to shit on people who I don’t like for totally illogical reasons (race, sexual orientation, gender identity) and someone is trying to say I should live by the golden rule instead so it makes me angry.

 

[Muse]

My dog walker texted me yesterday afternoon that she was really upset Biden stepped down. But I texted her back today and she was all excited and had donated. She saw all the excitement and donations coming in and got super pumped. She is in!

At work a woman asked my brother in law what he thought of the news, he was cautious but optimistic. She said she and her family were glued to the TV all day they were so goddamn excited!

I thought CBS's 1 hour special 6-7PM was pretty good. Nora O'Donnell hosted. Only blemish was having a Republican strategist in the studio. That was minor, though.

 

[ondma]

Barack Obama can't be VP. 22nd amendment says 2 terms and 12th amendment says "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States"

The 22nd amendment specifically says a president cannot be "elected" to a third term. So it is possible to construe that to mean that Obama would be eligible to take over as president from VP, because he was not "elected" to the office.

 

[Indus]

Over 50% of voters have or had a uterus. Reminding them that Republicans support rapists' rights in choosing the mother of their children is a very powerful message Harris can make on day 1. There's a lot of women in Republican households that could use a reminding of that. And the voting booth is a private place where those Republican-voting women might just decide to not vote for the Republican policy of supporting rapists' rights.

Harris needs to communicate on quite a few policy issues, but the right of a woman to control her own body and life is easily at the top of that policy list.

She needs to get young voters who were going to sit out or vote RFK or for Skibidi Toilet to vote for her. She needs to repeat what she's already said, that marijuana should be legal, not just rescheduled.

She also needs to roll out an economic program that dumps jobs into rural areas. Not re-training... jobs. There's 1000 ways to do that.

She also needs to not mention the word "gun" in any way shape or form over the next 4 months, as that doesn't net one voter anywhere on US soil.

Think you're on the right track but I don't think she can do it.

Hopefully I'm wrong on Nov 6th.

 

[APU_Fusion]

Think you're on the right track but I don't think she can do it.

Hopefully I'm wrong on Nov 6th.

If not, they only have themselves to blame when no fault divorces go away, their right to have checking account goes away, and the rule of thumb returns. 👳🏼‍♀️

 

[Artorias]

Just because you could add Obama as VP, does not mean you should. That's a ridiculous idea, and probably cost the democrats votes.

 

[Muse]

I’ve always preferred the die/dice version.

But I’m crazy 🤪

The problem with that is the suggestion that the outcome was left to chance alone. The alternative instead suggests that the outcome has been unalterably crafted, but was not solely due to chance. That's quite different.

 

[Moonbeam]

Sure, and black is white, water is dry, Jesus is your enemy and God spends all his time eating rats, drinking urine and rolling loaded dice.

You are certifiably insane.

So what's your problem with that? Maybe you just don't know enough to understand. One thing I will bet. You can't prove your position.

DIE. The die is cast, not dye. Die in this instance is a reference to a single die, or one of a pair of dice.

Thought that someone who posts walls of textual diarrhea would certainly know what and how that expression is written and what it means.

You are not thinking. A die is cast, a dye is fixed, often with the help of a mordant. Had I used fixed rather than cast you could say I was unaware the expression referred to dice. I can’t see words, I can only hear them so I am forced to learn every word by memorizing the sound of the letter order in each of then. Homonyms are a problem. Shakespeare, apparently, couldn’t spell his own name. Any word I heard the British spelling of that contains the Z letter I hear spelled ax zed instead of zee. I don’t know how to spell z in American dialect. Guessing on zee.

Also, a ship can’t sail where the water is too shallow.

Also remember that when a person feels so worthless they need to put children down for being inept at spelling, it can scar them for life and even make them mean. I am sorry that happened to you.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Yeah, lets please stop with this fantasy football shit of Obama/Michelle is VP. Doesn't seem like a good idea administratively (internal power struggles, hard to go to VP after being Pres), from an image perspective (Obama still needed old white guy to offset his young blackness), doesn't help Dems build a bench, etc etc etc.

Its like not only is it fantasizing, its just not a logical play either.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Tan the Convictman is suggesting the GOP should be reimbursed for fraud? That’s hilarious given they’ve nominated a fraud as their candidate.

I’m confused, I thought all these Republicans didn’t want an old dude in cognitive decline? Looks like they’re stuck with one now."

 

[Puffnstuff]

Final tally

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I'm glad I was wrong.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Donald Trump Once Donated Money to Kamala Harris' Past Campaign

Donald Trump's gearing up to battle Kamala Harris for the presidency -- but he was once in her corner, even tossing some cash her way when she was running for California's Attorney General.

www.tmz.com

Trump sunk $6,000 into Harris’s campaign from 2011-2013, and his daughter Ivanka chipped in $2,000 in 2014.

Apparently this came up in 2020 as well. His explanation is that he was doing it so they would owe him a favor.

Trump: - "Because when I want something, I get it. When I call, they kiss my ass."

Lol! ... This clown is such a parody. It's still unbelievable this guy is a candidate for President

 

[VRAMdemon]

I’m beginning to think I may have overestimated the quality of the GOP’s opposition research on Harris if this is what they’re going with out of the gate.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1815193159758160329

Paper or plastic, Hannity sucks.

 

[vi edit]

When your talking point is "WHAT ABOUT MUH STRAWS" I'll call that a Win for team D.

 

[MrSquished]

Just wanted to say thanks Nancy, you have helped the Democrats over your career in so many ways, and even now in your semi-retirement.

 

[Indus]

I’m beginning to think I may have overestimated the quality of the GOP’s opposition research on Harris if this is what they’re going with out of the gate.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1815193159758160329

Paper or plastic, Hannity sucks.

C'mon it's not a stretch to imagine..

First they came for your straws,
Then they come for your guns!

 

[Stokely]

Those dastardly Democrats, trying to reduce plastic waste and forcing me to wear a mask in hopes of limiting the spread of new and unknown diseases. Bond villains! What's next, trying for clean air or water by choking off the right of a family business to dump mercury into the river?

Not sure how many environmental regulations Trump rolled back, but he seemed to particularly take aim at any that Obama had something to do with. This is a top (though not the only) reason I vote against the GOP.

 

[vi edit]

Not exactly what they meant by a Straw Man argument... but if the meme fits

 

[Indus]

When your talking point is "WHAT ABOUT MUH STRAWS" I'll call that a Win for team D.

The talking points don't scare me.

The fact is a woman can only be elected if certain conditions are met, as we learned from Hildabeast. But hopefully there are enough people Trump pissed off (GenZ, 65+ who need prescription drugs, social security and medicare) that it may give her an opening.

I think Trump has Gen X as his biggest supporter (as much as I hate it).

 

[cytg111]

Barack Obama can't be VP. 22nd amendment says 2 terms and 12th amendment says "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States"

Yea, not that Obama...

 

[FelixDeCat]

Final tally

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Wrong! People are changing their votes after the fact. There were far less 💯 percent people yesterday. I posted it earlier.

At the time there were only 2 of us when I made my choice.

 

[Indus]

Wrong! People are changing their votes after the fact. There were far less 💯 percent people yesterday. I posted it earlier.

At the time there were only 2 of us when I made my choice.

Glory hunters

Same as joining a team after it does well but never heard off before.