Odd Temperature Report on both WD Black HD's

[Brian Stirling]

I just completed a new PC build and part of the kit includes two 6TB WB Black HD's to store my image and video library. I just powered on today but the odd thing with the HD's is that both of them report the exact same temperature of 36.0C and that value never changes for either of them even though one is being heavily written to while the other is idle. I can't believe these are true numbers and am wondering if there's a known issue with the temp report from them.

I should mention that the data is being displayed by Corsair Link software -- I also installed a Corsair H100i GTX CPU cooler. The other temps from the MB, GPU and CPU seem reasonable so I'm a bit puzzled by the HD values.

Any ideas?


Brian

 

[tweakboy]

What apps you using ? Could be culprit.. gl

What do you use to show temp. gl

 

[Cerb]

Check with CrystalDiskInfo, and set the raw column formatting to decimal / 2 bytes, to see all three values, if it keeps track of all three (current, min, max).

 

[Jembo]

This I'm serious about. WD has always notoriously inaccurate temperature sensors. They've always run hot.

 

[Brian Stirling]

Check with CrystalDiskInfo, and set the raw column formatting to decimal / 2 bytes, to see all three values, if it keeps track of all three (current, min, max).

I don't know about installing MORE stuff on my PC. By the time you've loaded up programs to monitor this that and the other you've turned a once virgin box into one that's, well, used up.

I checked the CrystalDiskInfo and the download is either just over 4MB or as high as 235MB with uncertainty about ads. I'd really rather use something than doesn't need to be installed and is simply run when needed without adding crap to the god awful registry.

I appreciate the help, but I am not installing more crap that gets used a few times. I'd like to see what the temp of my Samsung 950 Pro PCIe SSD is but there's no indication that any of the monitor programs are compatible.


Brian

 

[dlerious]

I don't know about installing MORE stuff on my PC. By the time you've loaded up programs to monitor this that and the other you've turned a once virgin box into one that's, well, used up.

I checked the CrystalDiskInfo and the download is either just over 4MB or as high as 235MB with uncertainty about ads. I'd really rather use something than doesn't need to be installed and is simply run when needed without adding crap to the god awful registry.

I appreciate the help, but I am not installing more crap that gets used a few times. I'd like to see what the temp of my Samsung 950 Pro PCIe SSD is but there's no indication that any of the monitor programs are compatible.


Brian

I can see the temp of my Sandisk SSD with Speccy - Pro version, not sure if regular also shows temps....Just checked with HWinfo64 and it's reporting the same temps as Speccy.
HWMonitor shows same temps as well.

 

[Brian Stirling]

I can see the temp of my Sandisk SSD with Speccy - Pro version, not sure if regular also shows temps....Just checked with HWinfo64 and it's reporting the same temps as Speccy.
HWMonitor shows same temps as well.

The thing is, my Samsung 950 Pro SSD isn't a SATA drive it's a PCIe drive plugged into the motherboards M.2 slot so I don't know that monitor software capable of seeing a SATA SSD will be able to see a PCIe SSD.

The 950 Pro is reported to run real hot, I mean like 98C hot and when it gets to those temps as it does pretty quickly the controller throttles back the speed to keep the temps from going even higher. The Samsung 951 which preceded the 950 Pro does not throttle but can reach 114C.

I'm thinking about deflecting some cooling air from a case fan onto the 950 Pro to lower the temps in the hopes that will prevent the throttling issue or at least reduce the frequency and duration of it. But, it would be nice to be able to see the actual temps so you can see the effect of a cooling mod.


Brian

 

[MongGrel]

This I'm serious about. WD has always notoriously inaccurate temperature sensors. They've always run hot.

Not in my experience really, but I've never owned a WD 6TB Black.

All of the HDD's I own are WD Blacks or RE's after many other brands have failed over the years. Just not one that large.

I've become a WD HDD fanboi over time. One of the few things I have done that way.

I wouldn't worried about it if they are functioning right.

IMHO.

 

[Deders]

The thing is, my Samsung 950 Pro SSD isn't a SATA drive it's a PCIe drive plugged into the motherboards M.2 slot so I don't know that monitor software capable of seeing a SATA SSD will be able to see a PCIe SSD.

The 950 Pro is reported to run real hot, I mean like 98C hot and when it gets to those temps as it does pretty quickly the controller throttles back the speed to keep the temps from going even higher. The Samsung 951 which preceded the 950 Pro does not throttle but can reach 114C.

I'm thinking about deflecting some cooling air from a case fan onto the 950 Pro to lower the temps in the hopes that will prevent the throttling issue or at least reduce the frequency and duration of it. But, it would be nice to be able to see the actual temps so you can see the effect of a cooling mod.


Brian

The 951's do throttle, but it's ether full speed or throttled low, with the expectation that OEM's will define their own custom settings.

The 950 pro has several throttle states, most are not as severe as the 951.

Neither drive should reach throttling temps unless you are really hammering the drive. Can't hurt to add a fan though, I just have my sidefan set to half speed.

 

[Cerb]

I don't know about installing MORE stuff on my PC. By the time you've loaded up programs to monitor this that and the other you've turned a once virgin box into one that's, well, used up.

It's like 5MB unpacked, no installer for the zip version (the only one to get), and you'll be incidentally wasting a lot more space without even knowing it just doing things like opening a new web page.

 

[Ranulf]

I don't know about installing MORE stuff on my PC. By the time you've loaded up programs to monitor this that and the other you've turned a once virgin box into one that's, well, used up.

Brian

What is this, the junior PC anti-sex brigade?

With crystal disk get the standard portable 4mb zip version. It looks to be compatible with your samsung nvme ssd even.

Or get HWMonitor, Open Hardware Monitor or HWinfo to track system/drive temps etc..

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

http://openhardwaremonitor.org/

http://www.hwinfo.com/

 

[Brian Stirling]

My problem with the recommendation to download more software is they seldom think to add the caviots about which particular version is best to avoid installing more crap and further hosing the registry. I have a new PC and have asked about several things and half the replies say to download this that and the other software and again seldom with the specific reference to the light versions that don't need to be installed.


Brian

 

[Elixer]

My problem with the recommendation to download more software is they seldom think to add the caviots about which particular version is best to avoid installing more crap and further hosing the registry. I have a new PC and have asked about several things and half the replies say to download this that and the other software and again seldom with the specific reference to the light versions that don't need to be installed.


Brian

Sure, you can get the "portable" versions of software if they have it, however, worrying about the system registry is a losing battle.
There is just too much stuff that goes on there, and lots of it is hidden, unless you want to make multi GB files with registry trackers, it just isn't worth worrying about it.

Better to spend the time on finding the root cause, and not worrying about something that you shouldn't be worrying about.

 

[Brian Stirling]

Sure, you can get the "portable" versions of software if they have it, however, worrying about the system registry is a losing battle.
There is just too much stuff that goes on there, and lots of it is hidden, unless you want to make multi GB files with registry trackers, it just isn't worth worrying about it.

Better to spend the time on finding the root cause, and not worrying about something that you shouldn't be worrying about.

It all adds up so adding one more thing is adding one more thing -- its a principle thing with me. A couple years ago there was word the M$ was going to do away with the registry, but too many folks want to jam shit into it for there own purposes and ... we still have the registry.

In this day and age the idea of a registry as its now constructed is pointless. We have SSD and now PCIe SSD with read speeds pf 2.5GB/sec so there doesn't need to be anything like the registry these days. As it turns out the registry is the mechanism that causes PC's to run slower the longer you have it and the main reason for that is ... adding more crap to it!

Yeah, I do tend to tilt against windmills, but sometimes the enemy isn't imaginary!


Brian

 

[Topweasel]

It all adds up so adding one more thing is adding one more thing -- its a principle thing with me. A couple years ago there was word the M$ was going to do away with the registry, but too many folks want to jam shit into it for there own purposes and ... we still have the registry.

In this day and age the idea of a registry as its now constructed is pointless. We have SSD and now PCIe SSD with read speeds pf 2.5GB/sec so there doesn't need to be anything like the registry these days. As it turns out the registry is the mechanism that causes PC's to run slower the longer you have it and the main reason for that is ... adding more crap to it!

Yeah, I do tend to tilt against windmills, but sometimes the enemy isn't imaginary!


Brian

No one says its imaginary. It's just that it's not worth the fuss. You spend more time tracking changes and deleting entries to keep the system at par. You are still going to miss stuff. Some of the stuff you remove will cause the system to act up (maybe not noticeable right away). The time you wasted will be better served taking care of an actual issue that comes up. On top of that Windows vista and higher don't really have as much of a registry decay issue and most people's issues that seem registry related is mostly bootup process creep. In windows 8 and 10, the more Windows store apps you use the farther you get from the registry.

 

[Brian Stirling]

No one says its imaginary. It's just that it's not worth the fuss. You spend more time tracking changes and deleting entries to keep the system at par. You are still going to miss stuff. Some of the stuff you remove will cause the system to act up (maybe not noticeable right away). The time you wasted will be better served taking care of an actual issue that comes up. On top of that Windows vista and higher don't really have as much of a registry decay issue and most people's issues that seem registry related is mostly bootup process creep. In windows 8 and 10, the more Windows store apps you use the farther you get from the registry.

I don't deny what you're saying and yes, the move towards store apps and bootup process creep plays a bigger role today than in the past. However, the bootup process creep of which you speak does involve the registry does it not?

Also, if the registry does play a role and you know that then why add things you don't have to? I'm not talking removing things I'm saying don't add it in the first place!


Brian

 

[Topweasel]

I don't deny what you're saying and yes, the move towards store apps and bootup process creep plays a bigger role today than in the past. However, the bootup process creep of which you speak does involve the registry does it not?

Also, if the registry does play a role and you know that then why add things you don't have to? I'm not talking removing things I'm saying don't add it in the first place!


Brian

Again you seem to be talking about portable versions of programs that aren't auto boot up. As for bootup items being in the registry, it could be there, it could be in services, it could just be a shortcut in the startup items. Watching how many and what kind of startup programs matter more than anything else.