OCZ Memory owners/buyers, you might want to read this!

[Gix]

Apparantly these guys have been ripping people off for quite some time. Well, someone has investigated them and found some interesting facts about the company.
http://discuss.madonion.com/forum/showflat.pl?Board=techotherhardware&Number=700621

 

[bozo1]

/har har

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[MaxFusion16]

Man, this is big. I'm suprised no one ever doubted OCZ, I've always wondered what company was OCZ, I thought the name sounded unreal.

 

[John]

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[John]

I came so close to buying from them on a few occasions. What a bunch of frauds.

 

[MistaTastyCakes]

Wow, I never knew all those companies were linked. I've heard about OCZ screwing people over before, but I never knew the "others" were also involved. I oredered a case from Ability once, and it arrived in a carboard box with one tiny sheet of bubble wrap covering the front of the case, and two of the sides of the case were dented in. It took about 3 weeks to get the RMA process complete!

 

[Rand]

Their also under investigation by the BBB (Better Business Bureau) on 4 counts of fraud.
OCZ and their less then reputable business practices have been well known for quite awhile.

They've been banned from AnandTech in the past, they've also been permanently listed as 0.0 rating on ResellerRatings under 3 different pseudonyms they operate under.
Let's see, they've been sued for remarking AMD Athlon 'Thunderbird' processors.
Then there was that whole fiasco with them paying off a certain unmentionable website for postive revues and advertisement.
The popular tech site AthlonOC.com is directly affiliated with, and partially run by employees of OCZ.

I was under the impression that OCZ unscrupulous business practices were already well known.
There have been a few similar threads around AnandTech about OCZ in the past...

 

[Windogg]

OCZ has been crap for years. I still remember the runaround they gave to everyone that ordered from them. Of course it was never their fault. If the deal looks too good, pass it by.

Windogg

 

[Carrot44]

All those pics of the Wonderfull PCB manufacturing equipment looks like standard pick and place equipment to me. Can get them from anywhere say the equipment manufacturer(sp) I almost bought some OCZ Ram too!!!!!!!!!

 

[Busch]

I told you! noone would listen!!!!!

here is what I wrote on the "Galaxy G12 same as Golden Gate?" thread by Katana on September 9, 2001---



Busch wrote:
Sunday, September 09, 2001 3:41 PM

"they are all three made by the same folks. OCZ doen't make anything."



There you have it, nvidiots. --- Busch

 

[Wolfsraider]

sweet begeezus guess you can't trust too much any more and i wouldn't buy from them or anybody else without a serious look into customer satisfaction after this

thanks gix

 

[KpocAlypse]

The heck with the Better Biz Guys, they are small frys. Isn't this falling under the the FTC realm..(interstate fraud is a felony, i do believe)

 

[hans007]

i've done a little business with them as a supplier surprisingly. my dad's company was clearing out their agilent arcticooler fans and geforce 256ddr cards, so he had me figure out how to sell them. Now this was like 900 fans, and 100 vid cards. I sold a few here on anands actually about a year and a half ago.



the guy i remember as my contact was ryan petersen. He used to work at that company northwood, that made the northwood athlon slot A golden finger. HE is the guy who tests all that ram and stuff, and i dont remember exactly how i ended up selling fans to him, but anyways. at one point he owed me $6000. it took a threat to him that i was going to call a collection agency and have him investigated and 8 weeks to finally get my $6000.


Not to mention my crappy northwood pre mod slot A 1000, came dead on arrival once, then it worked but not at the stated specs, and then finally on the 3rd time i got what i paid for , at which point , the non overclocked version barely cost more than the pre tested one that i ended up with.


Anyways, they are a bad company but they've had many "fronts" for a while. They also had their own anandtech wannabe type website that reviewed their own products. i believe it was called athlonoc.com and they also had another site but i forgot what that was. anwyays, stay away from them, their prices are good sometimes, but its not worth the hassle

 

[kgraeme]

This is old news. Years old. You're all just a new crowd seeing the light. OCZ has been doing this for years and every so often someone starts to track down all the strange front businesses and posts something like this. Everybody throws up their arms in dismay and swears that OCZ is evil.

Notice that nothing has changed.

 

[murphy55d]

:Q

Well ok, I'm not THAT shocked.

 

[John]

Anyone from "OCZ" replied to the accusations yet?

 

[Caveman2001]

I bought a stick of OCZ PC150 SDRAM like a year ago and it wouldn't even post at 150FSB, which my motherboard (IWILL KK266) would do for sure. I bought the stuff from a reputable retailer though, so I was able to get my money back, promptly.

Unfortunately, my brother recently bought 2 sticks of OCZ DDR PC2700 512mb dimms from a company called MicroPro and he's now trying to get an RMA as we speak since this news has been posted. This is news to a lot of people, because I've never seen anything about OCZ fraud here before.

The interesting thing to me is that even though OCZ isn't really a manufacturer, the reveiw posted at www.amdmb.com here shows that the memory did well considering the price differential. Corsair XMS3000 is $228 + shipping everywhere for a 512MB dimm and Mushkin's PC3000 512MB dimm is $199 + shipping. The OCZ 512MB dimm PC3000 stuff can be had at Newegg for $176.00 including shipping. The review shows that the max FSB the OCZ stuff would do is 177FSB turbo settings vs. 179FSB and up for everything else. My point here is the price differential might justify someone buying the OCZ named memory instead because it's quite a bit cheaper than other memory in the same class. The performance is a bit lower, but not by much.

However, I won't ever buy OCZ named stuff because of the principal behind it. But, if the price dropped to half of what it is right now due to this situation, would I buy then? Hmmm.....

 

[Rand]

<< Anyone from "OCZ" replied to the accusations yet? >>



Last time OCZ business practices were revealed on AT two OCZ employees stepped forth essentially saying it was all a lie and they were a great business etc..
They were soon banned though, when the Mod's discovered they were posting under a few pseudonyms pretending to be extremely satisfied OCZ customers recommending them.
Since then OCZ employees have been banned from AT permanently, so I wouldnt expect anyone from the company to come here and openly admit their representing OCZ.

The sad thing is, I bet in two weeks this will all blow over, everyone will forget about it. And once again OCZ will become an extremely popular business.
The same thing has happened a few times before, I doubt it will change anything this time.

 

[tokamak]

<< my dad's company was clearing out their agilent arcticooler fans and geforce 256ddr cards, so he had me figure out how to sell them. Now this was like 900 fans, and 100 vid cards. I sold a few here on anands actually about a year and a half ago. >>



i bought one of those vid cards. an asus geforce 64mb ddr. it's worked great for me. still using it to this day

 

[John]

Rand, I knew about their AnandTech ordeal. I was curious if an OCZ rep has addressed the issue to any BBS. I haven't come across anything thus far.

 

[odog]

good tidbit from the other thread... look for the greek alpha and omega symbols on the PCB of your DIMM.... mine has that and signafies it was made by this company.. http://www.pdpsys.com/index2.html

 

[BD231]

Wow, funny thing, I bought a bunch of mem from them and never had any prob's. One stick of mem was DOA and they cross shiped me a new one, guess I got lucky?

 

[Compellor]

Wasn't their GeForce 3 video card just a repackaged VisionTek GF3 with a Blue Orb cooler with copper RAM heatsinks? And I believe it was the most expensive GF3 on the market (fvcking con artists). This just proves that anyone can do this type of thing and get away with it.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I always thought OCZ memory was the fastest and best...if not then what is?

I dunno it just seemed real good to me. mushkin? Corsair? What is the best memory for overclocking?

 

[Maggotry]

I have 2 sticks of OCZ memory in one of my pc's. Works fine. OC's just fine too. Shortly after buying this stuff many months ago, I learned of their reputation. I won't support this "company" anymore.