Occasional stuck cursor in Mozilla products

[Red Squirrel]

I found something online about setting the card to max performance instead of variable. I tried it to see if it makes the issues go away. Now to wait and see.

Problem is, it uses quite a lot of power since the card runs at 100% all the time. It's brutal hot in my office right now, 26 degrees! When I open the door to go in it hits me like a wall. I got a 1 ton AC unit for this room alone though.

 

[Dagus]

i heard that as well and have been trying. no luck. it just makes it really really hot lol.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Yeah just did it again. Well I don't even know if this is the same thing, but basically what happens is I will open a new window, and the window will half draw and just stay in that state, and then I can't click on anything and lose keyboard input. If there's music or a video or anything like that, it keeps playing, so it's not an actual freeze. Hitting the power button causes a proper shut down to happen, but it's the only way to get out of that.

 

[radtechtips]

I also have an issue in Minecraft where occasionally my character will continue to do the last action, as if I was holding down on the key. Ex: continue going forward as if I was holding the W key, or continue jumping as if I was holding the alt key etc... I have died in lava many times, or jumped off a cliff, because of this bug. I call it the Toyota bug. The reason I mention this bug is I'm wondering if it's somehow related to something within the GUI environment? I'm not sure it's Minecraft specific as I never seen it in Windows and from what I've been finding it's only Linux users who get it.

That used to happen to me in Ubuntu before. I thought it was just lag...

 

[Red Squirrel]

That used to happen to me in Ubuntu before. I thought it was just lag...

No it will continue until you hit esc or something. I found a fix for it though, it's minecraft specific.

 

[radtechtips]

No it will continue until you hit esc or something. I found a fix for it though, it's minecraft specific.

Ya i had to hit esc. What was your fix?

 

[Red Squirrel]

Hmmm know what, I forget exactly but I googled something to the extent of "character keeps running minecraft linux" and found a patch. You need to add a few things to the jar files.

I think this may be the fix, but not 100% sure: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/134703-linux-stuck-keys-solution/

Come to think of it I should have saved it since I'll have to redo it if I reinstall.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I've been googling this issue more in hopes I find a solution and it definitly seems to be a known issue:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze

Unfortunately it sounds like it's a very broad thing and there does not seem to be any known cause or fix, at least none that I found. Though it does point to the GPU, so I really need to bite the bullet and just replace this video card with another brand/model or at least an updated model like the Titan or something. Maybe I'll wait till the Titan goes down in price and go with that.

 

[Red Squirrel]

This bug seems to have evolved. Now it seems to happen when I click a link from thunderbird to open a firefox window. The Window will half open (ex: it will draw the "back" gray portion) then just stop. At this point the entire GUI is frozen, the clock does not even tick. I can still move the mouse but there is no response. I also can't use the keyboard. Pressing the power button usually initiates a proper shut down.

Also it seems most of the logs like xorg don't put time stamps, but some weird number system instead, so it's hard to pin point if anything is being written. I did find this the syslog though:

Jun 21 01:00:22 falcon kernel: [85667.581961] NVRM: Xid (0000:02:00): 31, Ch 00000004, engmask 00000101, intr 10000000
Jun 21 01:00:22 falcon kernel: [85667.586290] NVRM: Xid (0000:02:00): 31, Ch 00000004, engmask 00000101, intr 10000000
Jun 21 01:00:22 falcon kernel: [85667.590688] NVRM: Xid (0000:02:00): 31, Ch 00000004, engmask 00000101, intr 10000000
Jun 21 01:00:22 falcon kernel: [85667.594970] NVRM: Xid (0000:02:00): 31, Ch 00000004, engmask 00000101, intr 10000000
Jun 21 01:00:22 falcon kernel: [85667.599306] NVRM: Xid (0000:02:00): 31, Ch 00000004, engmask 00000101, intr 10000000
Jun 21 01:00:22 falcon kernel: [85667.603599] NVRM: Xid (0000:02:00): 31, Ch 00000004, engmask 00000101, intr 10000000
Jun 21 01:00:22 falcon kernel: [85667.607937] NVRM: Xid (0000:02:00): 31, Ch 00000004, engmask 00000101, intr 10000000
Jun 21 01:00:24 falcon kernel: [85669.608926] NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU while in atomic or interrupt context
Jun 21 01:00:26 falcon kernel: [85671.605950] NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU while in atomic or interrupt context
Jun 21 01:00:28 falcon kernel: [85673.603032] NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU while in atomic or interrupt context
Jun 21 01:00:30 falcon kernel: [85675.600063] NVRM: os_schedule: Attempted to yield the CPU while in atomic or interrupt context
Jun 21 01:01:06 falcon kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
Jun 21 01:01:06 falcon rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="5.8.6" x-pid="745" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] exiting on signal

Also googling that error "Attempted to yield the CPU while in atomic or interrupt context" seems to bring up results and this is happening to other people too.

This is pretty major, is there not a fix for this? I feel like I'm using windows 98 all over again.

I also noticed that my system felt slugish for a few days. Windows seem to not draw instantly like they should, etc.

I'm willing to upgrade my video card if that might be the issue, but I'm also scared it does not fix the issue. I've already thrown enough money at this system and so far nothing.

 

[radtechtips]

I also noticed that my system felt
I'm willing to upgrade my video card if that might be the issue, but I'm also scared it does not fix the issue. I've already thrown enough money at this system and so far nothing.

Just sell your NAS case and buy a 770 and upgrade CPU and RAM

 

[Red Squirrel]

That's a separate project and is needed to replace my existing file server that is on it's last legs and has lot of other issues like random "the task hanged for 120 seconds" crashes when disk IO is too high. I don't want to build yet another machine. Though, any machine I build from now on will be server grade with ECC ram. The NAS is the most flawless machine I've ever built. At one point I thought I had issues because I could not flash the raid cards but turned out to be an issue with emm386 in my boot disk. Though, I did not put it in production yet, so it may be too early to tell.

I might eventually sell this machine though as if I put an ATI card in it, it will work fine for Windows. The Windows nvidia drivers are crap and crash all the time, so Windows barely runs on this machine. The screens will randomly turn off and then come back and there will be an error that the driver crashed and recovered. That's a whole other issue though, I have tons of video related issues in Linux too but not as bad.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I've had freezing in Linux Mint 14.1 on NV GF8200 IGP with Neuvoue drivers.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I'm starting to wonder if this is a nvidia issue in general. That, and the square artifacts on the screen. I've been googling and lot of people with nvidia cards have these issues. Maybe I should have kept that ATI card I bought a while back.

 

[Red Squirrel]

It's getting VERY bad latetly. It's doing it multiple times a day now. Well, I don't even know if it's the same problem as it's different now. This is what happens:



Usually happens if I click a link from an email, the window half opens,then it just stops drawing. At that point I can move the mouse but I lose mouse clickand keyboard function.

I can usually tell it's coming since when any window loads, I can see that gray for about a split second before it loads the content. So when that starts happening I know it's a matter of time till it will do this lockup thing.

So WTF is going on here? There's got to be a fix for this. Is it really hardware? So am I stuck continuing to buy new parts until the problem goes away?

 

[Red Squirrel]

Did something similar again today. This was the first time it did it in a game. I was in minecraft, then suddenly the top and bottom task bar turned purple, I had lines around my cursor (have not seen that in a while) then the cursor no longer would do anything and I lost keyboard control. Had to hit reset this time, even power button would not work, normally it does.

I'm saving up so I can just outright replace this whole machine, this is just getting out of hand. This machine works fine for non GUI stuff so I'll get more ram for it and use it as a VM server. Idealy I want something server grade with ECC ram as a server but suppose it will do for now. The new machine I build also wont need to be as powerful, given I'm running Linux, so might go with something lower end like Core i5.

I suppose it might also be worth trying another distro to see if I get lucky and the issues magically go away. Could be that the nvidia driver for the other distro ends up being another version, or something, if it's a driver issue.

 

[lxskllr]

Did you ever get a new gfx card? I haven't been keeping close track.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I did try with an older card and never had the issues though I only ran like that for maybe 2 weeks so could have been a fluke. This issue seems to come in waves. It will do it every day or even multiple times a day, then go a week or so without doing it. I did get an ATI card as I wanted to try to get triple monitors to work but it did not work (probably would have if my 2 other monitors had DVI as the DVI ports on the ATI cards are digital only) so I returned it. Though I regret doing that, I should have ran with it for a while to see if the problems go away.

I keep wanting to try the card in my other machine to see if that machine gets the issues, but I will need to use an external source of 12vdc to power it as that computer's PSU is only like 300w and does not have the proper connectors. I'd also be accessing that machine through synergy so don't know if that would change anything.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Had the GUI "half load" lockup happen again. I think I found a pattern to it. It's whenever I open a link from an email and it invokes Firefox to open a new tab, there's a chance that it does it. It's not just the stuck cursor anymore, but instead the GUI will start to load then just stop. In this case, the new tab was half way being drawn then it just stopped.

I write a bash script to open 100 firefox tabs, and it ran fine. So it seems to be something to do with the action of clicking. I might have to look into a web based email solution as it may prevent needing to open links from an external app. Links in a web page even to open a new tab never cause it to happen. It's always when it's from email.

 

[Mem]

I've never had anything that bad, just the mouse freezing when it turns into the hand, and the keyboard locking up as you mentioned.

games work all day and night with it, but once i try and browse a bit on facebook or something with firefox, i'm at high risk to be annoyed and forced to restart.

wish there was some sort of fix.

I read disabling hardware acceleration in Firefox under options fixes this issue,a possible issue with nvidia drivers (320.xx) and cards like 560ti,yes I've had it happen to me(Windows as well).

I disabled hardware acceleration for now while browsing,so far no issues.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Hmmm that's good to know. The 560TI is the card I have... I disabled hardware acceleration and will see what happens.

One thing I just realize I have not gotten in a while is the random color square artifacts. I wonder if that problem magically went away. It's separate from this one though, but all part of the same series of issues I've been having with this machine since day 1.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Just happened again. This time it was the traditional stuck hand. For the past few days it's been just the whole GUI locking up half way through drawing.

Is there something equivalant to GDI resources in Linux? I wonder if there's a leak and I'm running low or something then this happens when there's no more left.

 

[Mem]

Just happened again. This time it was the traditional stuck hand. For the past few days it's been just the whole GUI locking up half way through drawing.

Is there something equivalant to GDI resources in Linux? I wonder if there's a leak and I'm running low or something then this happens when there's no more left.

It happened to me a hour ago on Windows with 320.49s,I left it stuck/frozen and after a while Firefox reloaded and Windows stated recovered from Nvidia driver crash,its a known issue with 5xx cards and hopefully Nvidia will have a fixed driver out at some point,at least I can roll back to 314.22s (most stable driver IMHO).

 

[Red Squirrel]

Interesting, so definitely video card then. Is there a equivalent or better nvidia card that does NOT have this issue? What about the Titan?

 

[Mem]

Interesting, so definitely video card then. Is there a equivalent or better nvidia card that does NOT have this issue? What about the Titan?

Yep more here https://forums.geforce.com/default/...ies/nvidia-driver-320-49-whql-freezing-my-pc/

 

[Red Squirrel]

Hmm no mention of Linux though, but I have seen plenty of posts on the internet about my other problem:



So wondering if all of this is related somehow. I should not have returned that ATI card I had...