Ocasio-Cortez bans press from town hall

[Vic]

Don't forget weaponizing the IRS!

The projection is strong with that one.

 

[fskimospy]

Occasionally, at least for candidates who have the courage to directly face voters, go out and actually speak to the people they represent. When the candidate attracts excess media attention and the press swarm in trying to do their job, it can distract from the purpose of the town hall or event. Occasionally, you have to restrict the event to actual constituents so that you can hear their concerns and not get bogged down with press fighting over attention or trying to sneak unrelated questions in having people that don't even live in your state taking up time that should be going to voters.

Is she like "other people"? Is she asking for NDA's or loyalty oaths. Is she restricting this to registered voters of her party? My guess is not.
She wants to talk to voters and not get bogged down with a full press event.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense and exposure to US politics should be able to understand this without resorting to ridiculous nonsense.

Politicians hold events that are closed to the press all the time. Like... All. The. Time. Most fundraisers are closed to the press, for example.

If it wasn't for who she is, this would be a complete non-story. The extreme right has whipped itself up into a frenzy about her though so here we are.

 

[Vic]

Sure Vicky. With your IQ you'd fit in nicely with the Jade Helm and FEMA camp folks. I'm sure they'd be happy to have you.

Did you manage to catch that as it went over your head?

 

[brycejones]

Posting in another of the OP's concerned threads.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

The only part of that I can find is a conveniently cut clip that ends at that line on Washington Examiner. It was a comment made almost 6 weeks ago and when not taken out of context was a much broader generalization of youth and energy being what they need to energize the voting base better.

Out of context? Are you fucking kidding me? Here's 1 hour and 54 minutes of context.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ortez_represents_the_future_of_our_party.html

Hell, Tom Perez even stumped for Ben Jealous (a socialist running for Gov in MD). Democrats love these socialists and conservatives are merely pointing out the obvious. Framing them as "right side fringe groups that have some sort of twisted obsession" is dishonest as hell. Like Tom Perez, stand up and be proud of what your Party is becoming.

 

[mect]

I think the OP views his roll on the forum at the moment as providing a counter balance to the many liberal and progressive posters on the forum. Unfortunately, the two parties don't exhibit balanced, despicable behavior at the moment, and as a result he just comes off as desperate.

 

[UberNeuman]

Out of context? Are you fucking kidding me? Here's 1 hour and 54 minutes of context.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ortez_represents_the_future_of_our_party.html

Hell, Tom Perez even stumped for Ben Jealous (a socialist running for Gov in MD). Democrats love these socialists and conservatives are merely pointing out the obvious. Framing them as "right side fringe groups that have some sort of twisted obsession" is dishonest as hell. Like Tom Perez, stand up and be proud of what your Party is becoming.

Sure thing, PedoNaziFan.

 

[Vic]

It would appear that the Benghazi/Jade Helm/Uranium One/Seth Rich/Pizzagate/Qanon crowd is very concerned that there are too many TDS suffering extremists over in the liberal camp.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Please elaborate.

Oh wait, you can't.

BTW, I'm not a fan of AOC, or of anyone in the Bernie camp. What's bothering you guys here is that you want to make it appear like a small group of extremists represents all that is liberal thought in order to distract from the fact that batshit has gone mainstream in the GOP camp, but no one's falling for it (except for yourselves).

Thanks for being so concerned about the GOP camp...but everybody knows you were never going to vote for them anyway. Perhaps you should just stick to holding your own representatives accountable.

No one's falling for your horseshit (except for yourself).

 

[fskimospy]

Out of context? Are you fucking kidding me? Here's 1 hour and 54 minutes of context.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ortez_represents_the_future_of_our_party.html

Hell, Tom Perez even stumped for Ben Jealous (a socialist running for Gov in MD). Democrats love these socialists and conservatives are merely pointing out the obvious. Framing them as "right side fringe groups that have some sort of twisted obsession" is dishonest as hell. Like Tom Perez, stand up and be proud of what your Party is becoming.

When candidates like Ocasio-Cortez run against establishment Democrats they lose about 90% of the time. To say that the Democratic Party is becoming that because 1 in 10 winning candidates are more liberal than we have seen in the past is... let's say... dishonest as hell.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...gressive-wing-in-democratic-primaries-so-far/

In races where a party-endorsed candidate ran against a progressive-group-endorsed candidate (excluding any races where a candidate was endorsed by both sides), the party-endorsed candidate won 89 percent of the time.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Sure thing, PedoNaziFan.

Facts are facts cupcake. PedoNaziFan? Nice comeback! I would expect no less coming from you.

 

[fskimospy]

Thanks for being so concerned about the GOP camp...but everybody knows you were never going to vote for them anyway. Perhaps you should just stick to holding your own representatives accountable.

No one's falling for your horseshit (except for yourself).

Can you tell us what things you think the Republican Party should be held accountable for in the upcoming election?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

When candidates like Ocasio-Cortez run against establishment Democrats they lose about 90% of the time. To say that the Democratic Party is becoming that because 1 in 10 winning candidates are more liberal than we have seen in the past is... let's say... dishonest as hell.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...gressive-wing-in-democratic-primaries-so-far/

You must have me confused with someone else. My name isn't Tom Perez.

 

[darkswordsman17]

I think the OP views his roll on the forum at the moment as providing a counter balance to the many liberal and progressive posters on the forum. Unfortunately, the two parties don't exhibit balanced, despicable behavior at the moment, and as a result he just comes off as desperate.

He does desperately try to act like he's providing a counterbalance to what he views as liberal extremism. I have no idea how he so regularly equates so many of these issues though, but then he's consistently shown he's an incredible coward, even as far as xenophobes go, so it seems to be driven by some intense fear. The real shame is that there's an awful lot like him that gladly dismiss and ignore real victims' stories to try and foster their own persecution complexes.

I'd almost say its an act even, as if you just compare his posts on topics like rampant sexual abuse by Catholic priests, he'll leave a terse "this is terrible" type of response. But he'll exert pages trying to deny the KKK was canvassing a neighborhood or acting like a whole bunch of blatantly racist situations weren't racially driven at all, that they were completely justifiable interactions that were in fact instigated and caused by all this fake racism. It really comes off like he views the former as worthy of glib remarks so he can at least somewhat support that he's not a completely awful person.

 

[vi edit]

Out of context? Are you fucking kidding me? Here's 1 hour and 54 minutes of context.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ortez_represents_the_future_of_our_party.html

Hell, Tom Perez even stumped for Ben Jealous (a socialist running for Gov in MD). Democrats love these socialists and conservatives are merely pointing out the obvious. Framing them as "right side fringe groups that have some sort of twisted obsession" is dishonest as hell. Like Tom Perez, stand up and be proud of what your Party is becoming.

I've caught about 20 minutes of that interview and he's talking on a whole of their candidates. They are getting candidates that are young, engaging with their constituents and talking about issues that are important to their local community. They also talked about Conner Lamb who has very different views than Cortez. Perez was talking in general about having candidates that are doing a good job energizing their base and using that as their formula moving forward.

 

[fskimospy]

You must have me confused with someone else. My name isn't Tom Perez.

I didn't confuse you with anyone, I simply looked at what the party actually did vs. what one guy in it said. I guess actions only speak louder than words when it's convenient for you, huh.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Can you tell us what things you think the Republican Party should be held accountable for in the upcoming election?

What does "held accountable" mean to you?

 

[fskimospy]

What does "held accountable" mean to you?

Where if you were one of their constituents you would not vote for them.

 

[mect]

Out of context? Are you fucking kidding me? Here's 1 hour and 54 minutes of context.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ortez_represents_the_future_of_our_party.html

Hell, Tom Perez even stumped for Ben Jealous (a socialist running for Gov in MD). Democrats love these socialists and conservatives are merely pointing out the obvious. Framing them as "right side fringe groups that have some sort of twisted obsession" is dishonest as hell. Like Tom Perez, stand up and be proud of what your Party is becoming.

As long as we are in agreement first of what the term socialist means within this context. There are many democrats that currently support socialist policies similar to those practiced in Western Europe such as universal healthcare, affordable higher education, mandatory maternity leave, etc. The problem is, Republicans like to play the bait and switch game with the word socialist where they switch between various models of socialism to suit their needs. When portraying socialist policies progressives support, they point to Europe. When they show the outcomes of socialist policies, they switch to Venezuela.

 

[UberNeuman]

Facts are facts cupcake. PedoNaziFan? Nice comeback! I would expect no less coming from you.

Lol. You’re pretty much a cowardly scumbag that runs away when the news is bad for your party then comes back with a pissy attitude again. Stand with pedos and Nazi proudly and fuck off.

 

[Vic]

Thanks for being so concerned about the GOP camp...but everybody knows you were never going to vote for them anyway. Perhaps you should just stick to holding your own representatives accountable.

No one's falling for your horseshit (except for yourself).

1) I have voted for Republicans in the past. I'm currently registered independent but was registered Libertarian until 2012. Before 2008, I was considered among the conservative camp here on ATPN, even though I was against the Iraq war. If you believe that "my own" are the Democrats, you are mistaken. My own political ideal would be for a centrist 3rd party to rise up and fix the current mess, but that's not going to happen, so my only option left is to try to hold accountable the only party that presently has any actual power and control in this country, which is the Republicans.

2) You don't have any room to talk. You're so partisan it's ridiculous.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Where if you were one of their constituents you would not vote for them.

Sure...but it depends on the alternative. Many times it comes down to picking the lesser of two evils.

 

[fskimospy]

As long as we are in agreement first of what the term socialist means within this context. There are many democrats that currently support socialist policies similar to those practiced in Western Europe such as universal healthcare, affordable higher education, mandatory maternity leave, etc. The problem is, Republicans like to play the bait and switch game with the word socialist where they switch between various models of socialism to suit their needs. When portraying socialist policies progressives support, they point to Europe. When they show the outcomes of socialist policies, they switch to Venezuela.

It's been interesting to see the conservative two-step when it comes to Warren's new codetermination bill she's pushing and how it relates to Denmark. When it's pointed out that Denmark is doing well, conservatives say it's because it's so capitalist, even moreso than the United States. When Warren pushes a bill that would make the US economy more like Denmark's they shriek about how it's communism and would destroy the economy.

They apparently notice no disconnect.

 

[fskimospy]

Sure...but it depends on the alternative. Many times it comes down to picking the lesser of two evils.

Can you name some of those things?

 

[darkswordsman17]

It is amazing how much this woman who isn't even a congressman yet is driving conservatives insane. A random congressional candidate from the Bronx excludes the press from a single event and it merits its own thread with multiple conservatives flying into a rage about it?

Jesus Christ people, calm down. Your CDS is driving you crazy. Imagine how bad it's going to be when she actually holds any elected office and has any actual power. You guys are just losing it.

I think the realization that they could be looking at serious snapback in the elections is starting to scare them, as they've been really starting to go off the rails again in the past week or so. That or its like Batman Begins and Scarecrow's been dumping his fear agent in their water supply. There's a noticeable change in their demeanor lately.