OC3D: Intel 5960X 8 Core DDR4 CPU with Asus X99 Deluxe Review

[Z15CAM]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ_mykEuac8

WOW!

 

[BonzaiDuck]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ_mykEuac8

WOW!

Yup. The prospects for the $1,000 X chip seem pretty good. Did he use that Intel cooler? I forgot if it was something better. Whatever -- the thermal prospects are encouraging.

Now -- supposedly with only 6 cores, the 5930K may have an edge in speed measured only in Mhz/Ghz. Gotta look at that more closely. But it doesn't look as though the OC prospects are so limited if one were to buy the single-chip dollar-equivalent of two K processors.

Also, the bad news posted in cus-reviews on the X99-Deluxe might easily reflect the confusion of folks not sure what they're doin'. This had always infused motherboard customer reviews. Some folks are already touting the EATX Rampage board. I'd rather have an ATX board, and there are at least a few extras in the Rampage I'd declare unneeded in any build I'd choose for myself.

I want to see more X99 board variants. I just don't know if they'll produce many, since even a wider cohort of enthusiasts might still swing toward the 4790K with Z97 as a compromise of need, want and budget.

Must . . . wait . . . .and see . . . .

 

[Essence_of_War]

Did he use that Intel cooler? I forgot if it was something better.

No sir, that's strapped to an H105 AIO.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

No sir, that's strapped to an H105 AIO.

Ah -- that's right. What this means -- you could easily get the same results with a D15. [Or a D14!!] Point is . . . with the demonstrated potential, I'd like to have about 1.5x the cooling capacity of an H110. It just has to fit in the case.

"Cor!! It's f***ing blazing fast, mate!" And still -- you have to ask yourself -- would I be just as happy with six as I would with eight?

He seems to think the size of the heatspreader is indeed a factor in easier cooling. In some other posts -- maybe thread that I started in "C&C" -- I posed this question. The die itself is bigger -- right there. So maybe the proper measure is TDP-watts-per-core. Of course, it would actually be higher with the 5930K.

 

[Ajay]

Ugh, I grew up with an English family, but this guys' accent/speaking style annoys me - can't take an hour. Now, the chick from Tasty PC is a totally different story

 

[mistersprinkles]

Ugh, I grew up with an English family, but this guys' accent/speaking style annoys me - can't take an hour. Now, the chick from Tasty PC is a totally different story

Agreed. And that rack on the TastyPC chick. Mmm, mmm.
Tiny Tom Logan just doesn't turn me on like she does.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Ugh, I grew up with an English family, but this guys' accent/speaking style annoys me - can't take an hour. Now, the chick from Tasty PC is a totally different story

I'll run the web-search for Tasty!!

Anyway -- I think it's a cockney accent. It intersects somewhat with Michael Caine, the actor -- more recently of "The Quiet American."

And tell the truth -- the guy from OC3D doesn't say "mate." That's an Australian colloquialism.

Now me? Lately? Julia Church of CNN has replaced my fantasies about Dianne Sawyer. Oh, Julia!! Boi-oi-oi-oi-oing!! Heh-heh -- Heh-heh -- Heh-heh . . . . Boi-oi-oi-oi-oing!!

Hey!! Cambridge meets Austin suburbs!! Heh-heh . . . heh-hehehe.

 

[Z15CAM]

GEEZ! you Guys and Gals are so SICK you're breaking my heart over Logan - It's the Platform I crave for.

I can't even keep this i7 2700k occupied for any lenght of time let alone compiling mufti-tasks of what that system is capable of - It's unimaginable to me.

I'm feeling very OLD thinking I paid $3,200 for a Cyrix 386DX40 way back when that could barely break Win3 & Dos 6.

Stubborn as I was I did loaded Win95A on her and ran Direct Draw one Pixel at at Time ;o)

I had a Commador and a 286SX before that - SAD-SAD to see - Something entirely outta my reach and comprehension.

I did skip the 486DX40 and dove into a Pentium I - It's all irrelevant now - Oh Hum.

MAN what a Platform - Give me a few more years - LOL

 

[Burpo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMAT0CoarE

BonzaiDuck, Robin Meade of CNN works for me!

 

[Z15CAM]

I never heard a word she said. Other then my Girl friend is her sister - But Elian is Cantonese.

I'm in deep trouble because I'm still officially married and I'm Irish.

Kiss Blarney and wish me Luck ;o)

 

[Jacky60]

Ugh, I grew up with an English family, but this guys' accent/speaking style annoys me - can't take an hour. Now, the chick from Tasty PC is a totally different story

I agree, as an Englishman I find his delivery unbearable, he has a great face for radio and an excellent voice for silent films.

 

[Ajay]

Well, I didn't mean to take this so OT. My apologies to the OP :$

Anyway -- I think it's a cockney accent. It intersects somewhat with Michael Caine, the actor -- more recently of "The Quiet American."

Well, that it explains it. A cockney accent is an acquired taste - kind of like smoking cigarettes...

 

[Ajay]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ_mykEuac8

WOW!

Yeah, pretty impressive. Fortunately they have a text review @ their web site: http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/intel_i7_5960x_review_with_asus_x99_deluxe/6.

If I would be pretty much guaranteed that I could get a hexacore that would hit 4.5 GHz, then this is the platform that I'd want for my next upgrade. We'll see if better yields and BIOSes improve the situation.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Yeah, pretty impressive. Fortunately they have a text review @ their web site: http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/intel_i7_5960x_review_with_asus_x99_deluxe/6.

If I would be pretty much guaranteed that I could get a hexacore that would hit 4.5 GHz, then this is the platform that I'd want for my next upgrade. We'll see if better yields and BIOSes improve the situation.

Anandtech is only one reputable tech site that has an "overclock exploration" of the chips. Maximum PC and others offer some "intelligence." It is easy to get it to 4.0 Ghz -- that is, the 5960X. There seems to be judgment and speculation to effect that the 6-core 5930K can reach 4.5. And more of the same suggesting that there will be later steppings or releases.

But all the reviewers are saying the same thing: At stock or with a mild overclock, it is a blazing fast processor. Losing two cores, the 5930K may be more overclockable. But even if it isn't, you have so many cores to work with, you could clock it with the "per core" settings, get higher clocks for maybe two cores, less high with two more, etc.

 

[Ajay]

I'm just going to wait for more forum posts from this and other enthusiast forums to see how the 5930K and 5820K overclock over the next 6-9 months b/4 I spec out my next build. If Skylake weren't running so far behind, I'd probably do what a couple of my friends have done and drop down to a quad i7 and give up the HEDT platform. They found that a 4GHz Haswell feels faster and just as fluid as a 4GHz Gulftown. I'm not sure that I want to be stuck with no upgrades on and LGA Broadwell mobo & CPU.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I'm just going to wait for more forum posts from this and other enthusiast forums to see how the 5930K and 5820K overclock over the next 6-9 months b/4 I spec out my next build. If Skylake weren't running so far behind, I'd probably do what a couple of my friends have done and drop down to a quad i7 and give up the HEDT platform. They found that a 4GHz Haswell feels faster and just as fluid as a 4GHz Gulftown. I'm not sure that I want to be stuck with no upgrades on and LGA Broadwell mobo & CPU.

Then we're looking at our decision the same way. I could feel guilty as a "forum member" for using posts by others as a source of intelligence-gathering -- not so guilty for waiting for DDR4 to mature, BIOS updates and verdicts on motherboard picks, or newer steppings/releases of the E processor.

I could still swing toward Devils Canyon. But if I did, I'd also be inclined to de-lid it, and that adds complexity and risk. Since I'm sticking to my plan to build it next year, I'll continue to weigh the options in addition to choosing parts for case and water-cooling.

That's part of the fun!

 

[Ajay]

That's part of the fun!

Yes it is!

 

[mcbaes72]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMAT0CoarE

BonzaiDuck, Robin Meade of CNN works for me!

*Makes sure wife isn't around*

That was fun to watch! I own the 600T White case, too. That's more than I'm used to seeing from her YT videos. No complaints though.

 

[mcbaes72]

As for the 5960X video, I've seen that before among other reviews for the new 8-core cpu. Unless that drops down half price someday, it's waaay out of my budget. I could put together a decent gaming/htpc rig for that price.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

As for the 5960X video, I've seen that before among other reviews for the new 8-core cpu. Unless that drops down half price someday, it's waaay out of my budget. I could put together a decent gaming/htpc rig for that price.

Certainly, but Ajay's remark makes sense. The fat lady hasn't sung yet; there will be newer steppings and production runs. It may well be that the 5930K or 5820K are the way to go on this.

Even six cores may be much more computing power than most people would ever need, even for gaming.

If you wanted to shell out an extra $500, though, it could be tantalizing to make the sacrifice for an X chip.

But like Dirty Harry / Clint Eastwood said in one of those movies: "Man's gotta know his limitations." Or maybe that was a western. $500 bucks is a lot of Mexican dinners. A lot of corn tortillas and cooking oil. A lot of ground beef and taco-meat seasoning. You can only tighten the belt so far . . .

 

[mindbomb]

I feel we need an actual engineer to look at these motherboards and tell us if they are good or bad in terms of power delivery. It seems like most motherboard reviews these days offer no real insight, especially compared to PSU reviews.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I feel we need an actual engineer to look at these motherboards and tell us if they are good or bad in terms of power delivery. It seems like most motherboard reviews these days offer no real insight, especially compared to PSU reviews.

Depends on the reviewer and the serious effort at controlled testing. I always look at the phase-power-design spec, but this seems to have changed in terms of what the numbers represent with the newer chipsets.

We were lucky "back when." I jumped on the P8Z68-V Pro board after reading a few reviews. It was a gamble; I purchased it within a 40 to 60 days after it was commercially released. I seldom do that sort of thing.

 

[mcbaes72]

Certainly, but Ajay's remark makes sense. The fat lady hasn't sung yet; there will be newer steppings and production runs. It may well be that the 5930K or 5820K are the way to go on this.

Even six cores may be much more computing power than most people would ever need, even for gaming.

If you wanted to shell out an extra $500, though, it could be tantalizing to make the sacrifice for an X chip.

But like Dirty Harry / Clint Eastwood said in one of those movies: "Man's gotta know his limitations." Or maybe that was a western. $500 bucks is a lot of Mexican dinners. A lot of corn tortillas and cooking oil. A lot of ground beef and taco-meat seasoning. You can only tighten the belt so far . . .

I've been researching both of those, the 5820k being the better value for my needs. True, but it may be wise to get the best you can afford now, may extend need to upgrade an extra couple of years or more.