OC Frys 8/20 $49 AMD Sempron combo

mikeford

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I just looked at todays (8/20) Fry's ad and the $49 AMD SEmpron 2200+ combo is very tempting, but what the heck is a sempron?

Its bare, so will it work with my old AMD boxed fan? (the retail box fans are cheap locally, and often still in the retail packaging minus the cpu)
 

jpeyton

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A Sempron 2200+ is: 1500MHz, 166MHz FSB, 256k L2 Athlon XP. Equivalent to 1800+. Warm deal.
 

breweyez

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
A Sempron 2200+ is: 1500MHz, 166MHz FSB, 256k L2 Athlon XP. Equivalent to 1800+. Warm deal.

I guess you missed the part where it only costs $50 for a new MB and CPU:roll:...you can sell one off and just use the other....for those of us who build budget boxes....it is a hot deal
 

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Mobo at city of industry fry's is matsonic MS8177c.. its a kt600 mobo with onboard lan/sata/usb2.0... this is after a 20 dollar rebate tho... Not too great of a deal... the 512 pc3200 they have for 59.99 after rebate is pretty nice, comes with a heatsink and a lifetime warranty
 

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Originally posted by: vegeto456
Mobo at city of industry fry's is matsonic MS8177c.. its a kt600 mobo with onboard lan/sata/usb2.0... this is after a 20 dollar rebate tho... Not too great of a deal... the 512 pc3200 they have for 59.99 after rebate is pretty nice, comes with a heatsink and a lifetime warranty


what the heck are you talking about?


anyways, i went to FV fries and it was the k7vta3. if you're gonna o/c, post in the thread ;)

im guessing since its 9 x 166.666 = 1500, the best you can do is 9 x 200 = 1800 = Athlon Sempron 2800+
 

S13SilviaK

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Originally posted by: kalster
i picked up the combo too, i got a n2u400-a mobo though

Congrats, if they are actually handing NForce2 mobos with this deal I'm going to go pick one up just to have around the house ;)
 

ActuaryTm

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Originally posted by: weepul
so im guessing SEmprons are a new economic series of athlons? sorta like celeron vs the regular pentium line?

//krunk (^_^x)
Sempron replaced the Duron line, yes.
 

Toro 45

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Originally posted by: ActuaryTm
Originally posted by: weepul
so im guessing SEmprons are a new economic series of athlons? sorta like celeron vs the regular pentium line?

//krunk (^_^x)
Sempron replaced the Duron line, yes.

Wait a minute, I thought the Sempron was more camparable to the Athlon XP in performance. I know it has the same 256kb/L2 cache as the XP. Where the Duron only had 64/kb L2 cache. Someone clear this up, I was heading down to Fry's this morning to pick up this combo.
 

jpeyton

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Sempron = Athlon XP TBred

Sempron has 256k L2, 166FSB, Socket A. 2200+ runs at 1.5GHz with a 9x multiplier (probably locked). If you have a motherboard capable of 200FSB, you can hope for 1.8GHz.

Last time Fry's had this deal, it was with a Athlon XP 1800+, and that had no multiplier lock and did 2.3GHz.
 

ActuaryTm

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Originally posted by: Toro 45
Wait a minute, I thought the Sempron was more camparable to the Athlon XP in performance.
Replaced should not be incorrectly translated to "equates to". The line itself has been replaced - the Duron line was considered the value production line of AMD, and it has now been replaced with the Sempron line.

An equivalent scenario would be a car manufacturer replacing their value line with a newer model. Would be ludicrous to expect the same "older" performance from the newer model, even though it has replaced the value line. And so goes the Sempron.

Do hope this clears up any confusion on your part.
 

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Arggggh! Been wanting another nf2 motherboard and this deal is almost sweet enough to drive to Sacramento for one!

Heck of a deal if they are offering the nf2 motherboard and the cpu at this price!
 

Toro 45

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Just got back from the Renton Fry's with a Sempron2200/mobo combo it came with the ECS K7VTA3 board, snagged one of the Seagate 160G hard drives for $50.00 after rebate. Sure glad they finally built a frys in Washington:D

Quick question the sempron is a standard socket A cpu correct? Meaning it should work with most socket A boards, I ask because I'd like to try and OC it on my Epox 8K5A mobo I don't think the ECS board will have much for OC features.

and yes, ActuaryTm I get it. Thanks:beer:
 

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Only the 3100+ sempron is built on the socket 754. Its a crippled version of the amd64. It has less cache & a diabled 64 bit thinggy.
 

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Any one Overclock the 2200 sempron? I am thinking of replacing my 2200 t bred with it and setting the FSB to 200 to have a 2800. Think it would make it there?


Also, what kind of ram is at frys for 59 AR? What latency does the pc3200 pdp run at?
 

Toro 45

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Well this little combo is not to bad of a deal, the mobo does have fsb adjustment from 166 to 199, no voltage adjustment. I was pleasantly surprised to run it all the way up to 195fsb with no voltage adjustment so 1500mhz default and 1755mhz OC (Sempron2500 speed) Nice combo for $50.00:D
 

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Originally posted by: Wheatmaster
i thought Sempron was 64-bit?


heh its all very confusing. below a certain speed they are xp tbred. above a certain speed i think they are nerfed a64 with no 64bitness. but really u don't need the 64bit part because u won't be using it on a budget system. what matters is the built in mem controller, so the a64 based sempron is quite fast really. there are some reviews up
 

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Nice stuff since it's cheap, but I find the whole rating mess to be a big problem these days. Celeron/Sempron/Duron should be rated on a seperate scale then "MHz", because it's really BS when a 2.8 Celeron is slower in games then a P4 2.0...
 

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Originally posted by: BlackMamba
Nice stuff since it's cheap, but I find the whole rating mess to be a big problem these days. Celeron/Sempron/Duron should be rated on a seperate scale then "MHz", because it's really BS when a 2.8 Celeron is slower in games then a P4 2.0...

AMD moved away from that a long time ago. Intel is also starting to now: from Prescott Celeron 230 (256KB L2) all the way up to the top speed desktop and mobile chips (3xx/5xx/7xx model numbers).

This Sempron 2200+ has a 333MHz FSB (w/256KB L2), which is why it gets a higher performance rating than the old 1800+ 266MHz FSB model with a similar clock speed. For example, a Barton 3200+ (2.2GHz, 400MHz FSB) gets a much higher rating than a Barton 3000+ (2.17GHz, 333MHz FSB), despite only having a 30MHz clock difference. The Sempron 2200+ might have a slightly generous rating (IMO, 2100+ would have been more accurate), but it's hardly the same performance as the old 1800+.

IOW, it's not just the raw clock speed that affects performance as suggested above by another poster.