Obtaining a universal reference frame using time.

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  1. Ben90

    Ben90 Platinum Member

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    Lets have three observers: ClockA, ClockB, and Earth. Shoot the clocks off in directions in which gravitational forces are the same for both clocks. The clocks then relay their time to Earth, and the one whose time has passed the most is closer to a standstill. Rinse and repeat.
     
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  3. Paul98

    Paul98 Diamond Member

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    There is no universal frame of reference, it's all relative. In clockA's frame of reference it is not moving, in earth's frame of reference clockA will have a speed. The velocity depends on the frame of reference you choose.
     
  4. MrDudeMan

    MrDudeMan Lifer

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    I don't have a clue what you are trying to propose, but Paul98's reply is right and disproves your theory regardless.
     
  5. stevech

    stevech Senior member

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    Universal time reference per today's scientists, is the instant of the Big Bang, is is not?

    (until that theory is superseded).
     
  6. Paul98

    Paul98 Diamond Member

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    No
     
  7. pw38

    pw38 Senior member

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    There is no "universal" reference. Hubble proved that.
     
  8. Paul98

    Paul98 Diamond Member

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    Hubble did not
     
  9. tracerbullet

    tracerbullet Golden Member

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    This.

    Their being shot off mimics gravity and is part of it. What's done with their info that is sent back depends on when they shoot the info back (according to their own clock) and how far it has to go to be received. You're missing a lot of things and don't actually seem to have a question. In fact, is the original post a question, a solution to something, what?
     
  10. Cancer12

    Cancer12 Senior member

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    Mine is clearly the correct reference point, end of discussion. It always is consistent for me.
     
  11. silverpig

    silverpig Lifer

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    There may very well be. It's the frame in which the dipole term of the CMB is zero.
     
  12. jimhsu

    jimhsu Senior member

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    The problem with solipsism is not getting other people to do the same.