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Obtaining a security clearance?

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JonTheBaller

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I was wondering if anyone is experience with the process of obtaining a security clearance? I interviewed for a position, and I passed the first round. The second round involves the company determining/estimating how long it would take me to obtain a security clearance (including a 2nd interview). What exactly is the length of time of obtaining a security clearance based on? While I was not born in the U.S. (I lived in Israel from birth til 4), I am a U.S. citizen and have lived in the United States since I moved here (I am 21 now, so far the last 17 years). Also, I have smoked weed before but not in the past year, and I have not done any other illegal drugs in my life. Should I be concerned about the fact that I wasn't born here or the fact I smoked before? What else should I know about the process? Thanks for your help!
 
Shave your head and rip out you nails and there will be no way of them telling if you smoked. Sure you'll look funny but you will be clean. Plus a year is a long time, prolly not traceable anyway.
 
They're not too concerned about the weed.

They will be concerned about your place of birth but AFAIK it's not a dealbreaker.

Just answer all questions truthfully. If you haven't done anything to get yourself in trouble you should be fine.
 
Mlech...I was truthful and got mine

Many of the others were not truthful...and yet still got their's

Hair follicle tests and spinal taps are way too expensive to waste on your silly clearance. Lie detectors are almost 100% accurate (and reasonably inexpensive) but that almost is enough for lawyers and civil rights groups to get wild about
 
They dont care if you smoked weed. They will care if you lie about it though. I know some people who did not get thier clearance because they had immediate family who were not US citizens(They were from puerto rico I think)
 
My immediate family (father, mother, sister) are all U.S. citizens and live in the U.S.. The rest of my family doesn't even live in this country (all are Israeli). Does that matter?
 
The length of time to get an interim clearance is 2-3 days. A Secret can take from 3-6 months to over 2 years.
The DSS was/is so backlogged thatit may take a long time for a full investigation to happen.

The big determining factor on a full investigation are your age, police records and stability for work and living.
Also, the location of non-US citizens who are immediate family (Parents/siblings/children).
The more that you move around, the harder it is for them to validate you and that you have been good.

At some point (I have not idea what the trigger threshold is), the automated system will just reject the interim and put you in queue for a full investigaton.
 
The length of time to get an interim clearance is 2-3 days. A Secret can take from 3-6 months to over 2 years.
The DSS was/is so backlogged thatit may take a long time for a full investigation to happen.

The big determining factor on a full investigation are your age, police records and stability for work and living.
The more that you move around, the harder it is for them to validate you and that you have been good.

At some point (I have not idea what the trigger threshold is), the automated system will just reject the interim and put you in queue for a full investigaton.
 
The length of time to get an interim clearance is 2-3 days. A Secret can take from 3-6 months to over 2 years.
The DSS was/is so backlogged thatit may take a long time for a full investigation to happen.

The big determining factor on a full investigation are your age, police records and stability for work and living.
The more that you move around, the harder it is for them to validate you and that you have been good.

At some point (I have not idea what the trigger threshold is), the automated system will just reject the interim and put you in queue for a full investigaton.
 
Like Eagle said, it depends on what level of security clearance you need. I had a secret security clearance, which is required for all Army Officers and other people in certain job classes.
 
1. You'll have to be a US Citizen
2. You'll have to have a scotch clean record, including DMV. (There are exceptions)
3. You have to have a job.
4. You can't be affiliated with any "unsual" interests.
 
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
1. You'll have to be a US Citizen
2. You'll have to have a scotch clean record, including DMV. (There are exceptions)
3. You have to have a job.
4. You can't be affiliated with any "unsual" interests.
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2. I had quite a checkered driving record prior to my security clearance and I still got my clearance. Unless someone had a license revoked or something I never heard of anyone's clearance being revoked or denied.
 
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

The big determining factor on a full investigation are your age, police records and stability for work and living.
The more that you move around, the harder it is for them to validate you and that you have been good.
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I am 21.
I don't have a police record.
I'm not sure what stability for work and living are based on.
From ages of 4-6 I lived in NYC; ages 6-9 St. Louis, ages 9-11 Miami; ages 11-21 in DC area.

Should I be worried about the fact that I moved so much when I was younger? Does the fact that my dad was a physician in the army help?
 
It depends on the branch of government you will be working for. The State Department has different investigators than the Army, for instance. The investigators are all contracted out, and the different agencies award different contracts for their own needs.
 
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
4. You can't be affiliated with any "unsual" interests.
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A guy I know just got his SCI recently, and he's a Mormon!! They give those things to anybody these days!
😛
 
Originally posted by: johnnytightlips
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

The big determining factor on a full investigation are your age, police records and stability for work and living.
The more that you move around, the harder it is for them to validate you and that you have been good.
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I am 21.
I don't have a police record.
I'm not sure what stability for work and living are based on.
From ages of 4-6 I lived in NYC; ages 6-9 St. Louis, ages 9-11 Miami; ages 11-21 in DC area.

Should I be worried about the fact that I moved so much when I was younger? Does the fact that my dad was a physician in the army help?
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You might have to provide proof/witnesses or something from each residence you lived at. I'm not sure though, since you moved around when you were younger. They may not care about anything before the age of 15 or so.
 
Answer all the questions truthfully, completely, and promptly. Verify such things as peoples phone numbers etc. Make it easy for the investigator to verify things.

After you do all that, it is out of your hands and it may take between 1-3 years to get different levels of clearence. It took me a little over 2 years to get my TS/SCI with a bunch of letters after it.
 
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