Obesity a disability in Canada!

[StageLeft]

yaye!

Finally! 1/3 of Canadians who are obese can now claim disability in some cases! Even though the vast majority of these people are obese through nothing other than neglecting their health and diet finally they can get a break! Next time I fly Air Canada I want them to provide me with free liqour because I am, afterall, an alcoholic. I can't help it. I deserve free liqour.

 

[astriy]

that's just great. liberals piss me off, even on other countries.

 

[StageLeft]

that's just great. liberals piss me off, even on other countries.

A year or two ago I'd have definitely considered myself a liberal and I do swing that way overall but morons like this just give other Liberals a bad name. Unfortunately a lot of liberals give liberals a bad name :|

 

[khtm]

That is the most retarded thing I've seen. They should have to pay fat tax. Our damn *free* health care is largely spent on hospital bills for overweight people when they get heart disease or any other fat-related sickness.

I like the free liquor idea, Skoorb

 

[Azraele]

If it's a true medical prblem and not the result of personal negligence, then I can understand. If it's a result of over-eating and under-exercising, then forget it.

 

[StageLeft]

Our damn *free* health care is largely spent on hospital bills for overweight people when they get heart disease or any other fat-related sickness.

I don't know the percentages but I also suspect that a gross (pun intended) amount of Canada's health care dollars are spent repairing the avoidable ills of people who just can't say no to that third plate of pasta or answer "no thanks" when asked if they want to large size their meal at Mcdonalds. In a society with enough money, like Canada has, I don't condone people being given no treatment if they can't afford it but within reason of course...I'm not that aware of the US system but I do know that you pay more in line with what you're likely to use. If you weigh 450 lbs you will not be paying the same price for health insurance as somebody who is a marathon runner, whereas in Canada both pay the same taxes.

 

[khtm]

<< If it's a true medical prblem and not the result of personal negligence, then I can understand. If it's a result of over-eating and under-exercising, then forget it. >>



How many excessively obese (people that would need 2 seats on a plane) people do you know that are like that because of a "true" medical condition? If any, it's definitely a very very small percentage.

-khtm-

 

[Viper GTS]

If it's caused by a legitimate uncontrollable medical condition, then I would agree.

But if it's caused by some lard-ass feeding their face non-stop I think it's absurd.

Viper GTS

 

[khtm]

<< I don't know the percentages but I also suspect that a gross (pun intended) amount of Canada's health care dollars are spent repairing the avoidable ills of people who just can't say no to that third plate of pasta or answer "no thanks" when asked if they want to large size their meal at Mcdonalds. In a society with enough money, like Canada has, I don't condone people being given no treatment if they can't afford it but within reason of course...I'm not that aware of the US system but I do know that you pay more in line with what you're likely to use. If you weigh 450 lbs you will not be paying the same price for health insurance as somebody who is a marathon runner, whereas in Canada both pay the same taxes. >>



I also think the US health care system has some advantages we should look at. Our system is great if_you_use_it, but there's got to be a happy medium between the Canadian and US health care systems. Perhaps that would help lower our insane income tax rates, too.

-khtm-

 

[StageLeft]

<< If it's caused by a legitimate uncontrollable medical condition, then I would agree.

But if it's caused by some lard-ass feeding their face non-stop I think it's absurd. >>



Yep. Unfortunately then Air Canada has to go to the effort of proving that a person's obesity is caused through negligence and it just turns everything into a major hassel. I would say that these people should pay as Air Canada used to charge them (hell, AC even gave them 50% off on second seat), and then if that person can produce a letter from their doctor then they can get a rebate.

 

[notfred]

Obesity has been a disability 9in same cases) for a couple years in the US.

 

[royaldank]

Obesity in America is a disability as well. If you are over 400 #s (I think this is right), then you are entitled to government money for disabilities. That means your tax money in America is paying for these types of people as well.

Remember the Simpson's episode where Homer got big so he wouldn't have to work? To an extent, it was based on truth.

 

[StageLeft]

My disability is an addiction to gaming. I must videogame for at least 16 hours a day. I can't work. I need the gov't to support me!

 

[SSP]

<< My disability is an addiction to gaming. I must videogame for at least 16 hours a day. I can't work. I need the gov't to support me! >>



I'd like tht more than the liquor.... hehe

 

[eakers]

"im gonna be a big fat lardo on workmans comp!"

*kat. <-- not really.

 

[blackhawk]

I've never trusted the liberals because of there tendency to cave to self interest groups. They want to in power more than lead.

Obesity as a disability means that self choice is given over to the gov't so that the "victims" can claim a "right" from society. That always entails power/money as everything comes down to individual characteristics, greed, self-interest and selfishness.

I've always respected the way the american gov't can come together for the good of the country, putting aside party and basic interests.

Fat people want someone else to pay for the extra weight/space they use on the aircraft. As an aircraft can only carry a set amount of weight, they want a subsidy. Its like me wanting to ship a large heavy piece of freight but demanding the same rate as the person sending an envelope and crying "discrimination"

That's very canadian.

 

[StageLeft]

<< That's very canadian. >>



Well, it's very Liberal and Canadians do tend to vote liberal, or have recently (I argue it's in part due to apathy and laziness and a lack of interest in change because change is risky so they vote Chretien in because he is a known leader even if not a great one), but there are many Canadians who are not liberal, and there are many liberals who, I'm sure, think that this is quite ridiculous.

 

[Noriaki]

<< that's just great. liberals piss me off, even on other countries. >>



The Federal Liberals in Canada are among the stupidest f*cks ever...

They are making a bloody mess of this country, unfortunately we have no intelligent legislation that limited the amount of time any one Prime Minister can serve...so the same stupid fart can keep ripping this country a new asshole for years to come...

Unfortunately the majority of the population are in the eastern section and that's the section he caters to, so manages to get lots of votes. The praries and BC meanwhile get raped....


Sorry...I couldn't help that....this fat thing is just too much...

 

[b0mbrman]

<< Remember the Simpson's episode where Homer got big so he wouldn't have to work? To an extent, it was based on truth. >>



I remember that episode

 

[GagBag]

so, dont be fat.

 

[KEV1N]

When choosing between a policy and a person, always pick the person. It's easy to generalize and just tell people to "not be fat" but maybe sometimes you must consider that the person may have a genetic predisposition to be obese despite their efforts.

I agree with considering obesity a disability, but there must be a reasonable minimum weight in their specifications. I believe the term is "morbidly obese" or something like that.

 

[Smbu]

That's why they are looking at it on a case by case basis.

If the person has some type of medical condition that causes them to be fat, then I can understand the free extra seat, but if the person is just fat and lazy, because of neglecting exercise, or eating too much then they should have to pay for the extra seat. (and exercise and eat better to lose weight)

 

[arigato]

Interesting that this article comes out a few days after the Surgeon General announced that Americans are too fat.

 

[MustPost]

<Homer Simpson>Must get disabled</Homer

 

[lepper boy]

I just had an ambulance call the other night at 3 am. for a guy who was so fat he couldn't get out of bed.... and my partner and I, had to lift his fat A@@ up... man oh MAN! that really made me mad... especially since I had to get out of bed for that.. I mean sure it's my job to get up at 3 am when the alarm goes off and go on a call. but for a guy who is to fat to move?? AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH