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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Excelsior
But you keep hoping and wishing if you must but it still amazes me that someone as Libertarian as you have been is supporting someone who is so big central gov't.
One could say the same thing for those who have supported Bush all these years...God knows he hasn't done anything to decrease the size of the central government. ;)

Its pretty clear that both parties, right now, care little about truly decreasing the size of the federal government. So one has to take that into consideration before furthering the discussion.
Oh sure, but when someone is running on the platform of more and bigger gov't.... uhh.... hello? Not something a "Libertarian" normally supports. Ofcourse he(or someone else) will come in here and whine about McCain and claim he's no better. That may be true but this isn't about McCain and I don't support him anyway for a variety of reasons.
All that said, it still makes next to zero sense for a libertarian to be so into BHO. Their ideologies are not even close.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Excelsior
But you keep hoping and wishing if you must but it still amazes me that someone as Libertarian as you have been is supporting someone who is so big central gov't.
One could say the same thing for those who have supported Bush all these years...God knows he hasn't done anything to decrease the size of the central government. ;)

Its pretty clear that both parties, right now, care little about truly decreasing the size of the federal government. So one has to take that into consideration before furthering the discussion.
Oh sure, but when someone is running on the platform of more and bigger gov't.... uhh.... hello? Not something a "Libertarian" normally supports. Ofcourse he(or someone else) will come in here and whine about McCain and claim he's no better. That may be true but this isn't about McCain and I don't support him anyway for a variety of reasons.
All that said, it still makes next to zero sense for a libertarian to be so into BHO. Their ideologies are not even close.
Obama is more of a libertarian than McCain. That's all it takes for me and probably quite a few others too.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Hey look, it's the same 2 morons trying to spread this either or BS. My candidate is a Conservative. There isn't one in the race by my standards. That fact does NOT prevent me from railing against the same old liberal/socialist ideology and candidate who supports them. I know for a fact that I'm not the only one here with no horse in the race(meaning either of the 2 major party candidates) but you two keep trolling away if you wish.
Boing!
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

I've yet to see you post anything of that nature OR accept a criticism of him but then again this isn't about YOU - which you'd understand if you read what I posted. I don't care if you think you've said one or two things you don't like about him. This is about the responses from you bots. It doesn't matter what the issue is, there is always a horde of apologists that swarm the "anti" obama threads. Thus my comment about "quality".

But like always, you'll see it how you wish...
Well just the other day I trashed him for refusing public funding after pledging to adhere to it when it didn't look like he would win. So.. yeah. Funny thing was, that was a 'response' in an 'anti Obama' thread. So yeah like I said, obviously false. But right, it's not about ME, I mean sure I'm one of 'you Obamabots' as you called me, but you must have just meant all the OTHER ones.

I feel like this is what you don't understand (or willfully choose to ignore). If you make a thread with legitimate criticism, you get reasoned responses... some of which might even support you. If you make retarded threads like this one, you get flamed for being stupid.
No no, you needed to create a thread about your criticism. And instead of making your comments intelligent and straightforward, you needed to riddle them with emotionally-charged words and rhetoric like 'Obamabot,' 'Obamessiah,' 'empty suit,' etc.

You see, that's the only way to prove impartiality to CAD. :roll:
I never claimed to be impartial. YOU ASSume that not having a candidate to support means I must be impartial. Only a fool would make that assumption.
Boing!
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Hey look, it's the same 2 morons trying to spread this either or BS. My candidate is a Conservative. There isn't one in the race by my standards. That fact does NOT prevent me from railing against the same old liberal/socialist ideology and candidate who supports them. I know for a fact that I'm not the only one here with no horse in the race(meaning either of the 2 major party candidates) but you two keep trolling away if you wish.
The fact that you use liberal and socialist together like that, as though they were similar ideologies, proves that you don't have a clue what you're talking about. (edit: Text)

And I already proved here that you are the one trolling. What I am doing here is known as flaming. Get yer sh!t straight. It's annoying how you duh-vert and bounce from one straw man to the next. Do you really believe that anyone reading this is so easily fooled?
Not a word about my post and your obvious lying about my position. ...not surprised.

And yes you were flaming while trolling.
An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.[2]
The topic at hand is Obama and the town hall debates. You and your sidekick eskimo are the ones trolling.


BTW, Obama is both liberal and socialist if positions and ideas are to be looked at... but that's another subject all together. So as usual, you ASSumption that I think they are similar is...well... stupid.
Boing!
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
You've become like this sad, strange characteriture of yourself, CAD.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you. You used to be a Libertarian who'd rip into either side, now you've become an obama apologist.
Boing!
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Vic
You've become like this sad, strange characteriture of yourself, CAD.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you. You used to be a Libertarian who'd rip into either side, now you've become an obama apologist.
I am still a libertarian (note: small "l", as it's always been, as I am actually a classical liberal and always have been) and I still rip into both sides.

When this election is over, I'll go back full-tilt into the left. I hate to break it to you, but right-wing status quo kneejerkers, like yourself, don't make for fulfilling political discussion.
In the political spectrum, you have the people who think change is always good, and then the people (like yourself) who think change is always bad. IMO they're equally stupid in their fight and denial of reality. Change is inevitable. Or as Neil Peart famously said, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
Wow, you sure do claim to know alot about me yet you haven't a clue. I do NOT think change is always bad. However, I think too much can be disasterous. "change" is not why I dislike Obama, I actually think he'll be more of the same democrat than a "change" democrat. But you keep hoping and wishing if you must but it still amazes me that someone as Libertarian as you have been is supporting someone who is so big central gov't. I don't support McCain for many of the same reasons you don't, yet there is no way in hell I'd ever consider voting for Obama.
Boing!
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Excelsior
But you keep hoping and wishing if you must but it still amazes me that someone as Libertarian as you have been is supporting someone who is so big central gov't.
One could say the same thing for those who have supported Bush all these years...God knows he hasn't done anything to decrease the size of the central government. ;)

Its pretty clear that both parties, right now, care little about truly decreasing the size of the federal government. So one has to take that into consideration before furthering the discussion.
Oh sure, but when someone is running on the platform of more and bigger gov't.... uhh.... hello? Not something a "Libertarian" normally supports. Ofcourse he(or someone else) will come in here and whine about McCain and claim he's no better. That may be true but this isn't about McCain and I don't support him anyway for a variety of reasons.
All that said, it still makes next to zero sense for a libertarian to be so into BHO. Their ideologies are not even close.
Boing!
 

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