Obama's Trying To Do The Best By Their Daughters

Perknose

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I hope they find a good alternative. I admire the way they care deeply about their children. :thumbsup:

This is not a slam of the Bushes. See bolded below.

Updated | 3:12 p.m. CHICAGO?The White House has turned down a request from the family of President-elect Barack Obama to move into Blair House in early January so that his daughters can start school on Jan. 5.

The Obamas were told that Blair House, where incoming presidents usually stay in the five days before Inauguration Day, is booked in early January, a spokesperson to the Obama transition said. ?We explored the idea so that the girls could start school on schedule,? the spokesperson said. ?But, there were previously scheduled events and guests that couldn?t be displaced.?

It remained unclear who on Bushes guest list outranked the incoming President.

?It?s not a public schedule,? said Sally McDonough, spokeswoman for First Lady Laura Bush, in refusing to disclose who was staying at Blair House. ?It?s not a question of outranking the Obamas. Blair House will be available to them on January 15.?

Ms. McDonough said ?there?s nothing more to say other than that it?s not available and won?t be available until January 15.? She added that ?you?re trying to make a story out of something that?s not a story.?

A State Department official said he didn?t know of any foreign dignitaries staying at Blair House in early January.

A White House official said that Mr. Bush does not have family or friends from Texas staying at Blair House during the period which the Obamas requested. But Blair House, the official said, has been booked for ?receptions and gatherings? by members of the outgoing Bush administration. Those receptions, the official said, ?don?t make it suitable for full-time occupancy by the Obamas yet.?

Mr. Obama has been staying in Chicago with his family since the election; the Obamas have decided to send their two daughters, Malia and Sasha, to Sidwell Friends School in Washington.

Obama transition officials said that the family is considering other housing options and are hopeful the girls will not miss the start of school. ?The White House has been extremely accommodating to the Obama family needs ? and the entire process has been smooth and friendly,? the transition official said.
 

winnar111

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They care enough about their children not to send them to DC public schools like Carter did, yeah. Good for them.
 

Fear No Evil

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Originally posted by: winnar111
They care enough about their children not to send them to DC public schools like Carter did, yeah. Good for them.

Maybe they can give the rest of America who hasn't gotten rich off Chicago Politics the right to send their kids to private schools as well.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: winnar111
They care enough about their children not to send them to DC public schools like Carter did, yeah. Good for them.

Maybe they can give the rest of America who hasn't gotten rich off Chicago Politics the right to send their kids to private schools as well.

The rest of American doesn't have the right to send their kids to private school? That is news to me. Maybe you could just start posting from your banned account instead from now on?
 

ebaycj

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: winnar111
They care enough about their children not to send them to DC public schools like Carter did, yeah. Good for them.

Maybe they can give the rest of America who hasn't gotten rich off Chicago Politics the right to send their kids to private schools as well.

waaaah... I can't afford private school.

Get off your ass. Make some real fucking money. Do what you want with it.
 

waggy

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how is this a story?

as for private schools i agree with ebaycj. get a better fucking job or do without shit so you can send them to it.

 

bozack

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care deeply about their children?? please...anyone in a similar situation would do exactly the same thing (worry about their children's schooling or well being during such a transition)....They make enough money where I am sure finding an alternative won't be a big issue for the short term.
 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: ebaycj
waaaah... I can't afford private school.

Get off your ass. Make some real fucking money. Do what you want with it.
This is one of the great ironies in the liberal position in this country: everyone should have equal access to healthcare and everything else EXCEPT education. I don't know the best way to implement a "free choice" school plan, but I know that the current public school system is terrible almost everywhere and that private schools are orders of magnitude better. If you really want to enable someone, then education is the simplest way to do it.
 

JSt0rm

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
This is one of the great ironies in the liberal position in this country: everyone should have equal access to healthcare and everything else EXCEPT education. I don't know the best way to implement a "free choice" school plan, but I know that the current public school system is terrible almost everywhere and that private schools are orders of magnitude better. If you really want to enable someone, then education is the simplest way to do it.

Nobody is stopping you from buying high quality health care and nobody will stop you from buying high quality schools for your kids. Public schools exists to make sure all kids get an education. UHC would do the same. The level of quality would not deteriorate like in the public school system because there would still be competition.
 

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Originally posted by: winnar111
They care enough about their children not to send them to DC public schools like Carter did, yeah. Good for them.

Maybe they can give the rest of America who hasn't gotten rich off Chicago Politics the right to send their kids to private schools as well.

Maybe the rest of Americans can actually work for the money to do that.
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
This is one of the great ironies in the liberal position in this country: everyone should have equal access to healthcare and everything else EXCEPT education. I don't know the best way to implement a "free choice" school plan, but I know that the current public school system is terrible almost everywhere and that private schools are orders of magnitude better. If you really want to enable someone, then education is the simplest way to do it.

Nobody is stopping you from buying high quality health care and nobody will stop you from buying high quality schools for your kids. Public schools exists to make sure all kids get an education. UHC would do the same. The level of quality would not deteriorate like in the public school system because there would still be competition.

Why are public schools supposed to meet the bare minimum, while public health care has to be as good as Congress's health care?
 

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: ebaycj
waaaah... I can't afford private school.

Get off your ass. Make some real fucking money. Do what you want with it.
This is one of the great ironies in the liberal position in this country: everyone should have equal access to healthcare and everything else EXCEPT education. I don't know the best way to implement a "free choice" school plan, but I know that the current public school system is terrible almost everywhere and that private schools are orders of magnitude better. If you really want to enable someone, then education is the simplest way to do it.

They're the presidents' daughters. Do you have any idea what would be involved in making a big public school suitable?
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: ebaycj
waaaah... I can't afford private school.

Get off your ass. Make some real fucking money. Do what you want with it.
This is one of the great ironies in the liberal position in this country: everyone should have equal access to healthcare and everything else EXCEPT education. I don't know the best way to implement a "free choice" school plan, but I know that the current public school system is terrible almost everywhere and that private schools are orders of magnitude better. If you really want to enable someone, then education is the simplest way to do it.

They're the presidents' daughters. Do you have any idea what would be involved in making a big public school suitable?

Carter did it. Safety isn't the issue; rather Obama knows that the public school system is a failure and won't put his kids where his mouth is.
 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
They're the presidents' daughters. Do you have any idea what would be involved in making a big public school suitable?
It's suitable for everyone else's kids. What's the problem?
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
They're the presidents' daughters. Do you have any idea what would be involved in making a big public school suitable?
It's suitable for everyone else's kids. What's the problem?

They are the president's daughters?
 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
They are the president's daughters?
Ah, so the president's family is in a different caste? Now I understand. If that's the case, why don't they just hire someone to come to the White House and teach them?
 
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Originally posted by: bozack
care deeply about their children?? please...anyone in a similar situation would do exactly the same thing (worry about their children's schooling or well being during such a transition)....They make enough money where I am sure finding an alternative won't be a big issue for the short term.

They might have enough money, but that's probably not the concern. You have to worry about security, and the Secret Service might not have the time to fully secure some other location.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: ebaycj
waaaah... I can't afford private school.

Get off your ass. Make some real fucking money. Do what you want with it.
This is one of the great ironies in the liberal position in this country: everyone should have equal access to healthcare and everything else EXCEPT education. I don't know the best way to implement a "free choice" school plan, but I know that the current public school system is terrible almost everywhere and that private schools are orders of magnitude better. If you really want to enable someone, then education is the simplest way to do it.

Well liberals want to make public education better for everyone...conservatives want to implement voucher systems that basically act as a life-raft for a few and totally screw the majority. Sure, if "free choice" was what was really being offered by conservative plans, that would be worth debating...but it's really subsidizing private education for rich kids, not a workable system for everyone. I don't know how you can say LIBERALS are the ones who don't want equal access to education for everyone when conservatives are the folks who endorse plans that make education even LESS equal.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: eskimospy
They are the president's daughters?
Ah, so the president's family is in a different caste? Now I understand. If that's the case, why don't they just hire someone to come to the White House and teach them?

Because being in school with other children is a valuable part of the education process?

Come on, you're not stupid...stop pretending to be so you can bash Obama.
 

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
This is one of the great ironies in the liberal position in this country: everyone should have equal access to healthcare and everything else EXCEPT education. I don't know the best way to implement a "free choice" school plan, but I know that the current public school system is terrible almost everywhere and that private schools are orders of magnitude better. If you really want to enable someone, then education is the simplest way to do it.

Nobody is stopping you from buying high quality health care and nobody will stop you from buying high quality schools for your kids. Public schools exists to make sure all kids get an education. UHC would do the same. The level of quality would not deteriorate like in the public school system because there would still be competition.

Umm, the free health care available now is equal to the quality of that in our public schools. IE - THEY BOTH SUCK!
 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Well liberals want to make public education better for everyone...conservatives want to implement voucher systems that basically act as a life-raft for a few and totally screw the majority. Sure, if "free choice" was what was really being offered by conservative plans, that would be worth debating...but it's really subsidizing private education for rich kids, not a workable system for everyone. I don't know how you can say LIBERALS are the ones who don't want equal access to education for everyone when conservatives are the folks who endorse plans that make education even LESS equal.
It's simple: public schools, just like other government entities, have no incentive to improve performance. Private schools do. This is why virtually any private school outperforms virtually any public school. Giving everyone the same access to crappy education is hardly a solution to anything. Giving schools incentives for improvement is a solution. While I don't know the details of a voucher plan, I appreciate the general idea of giving incentives for improved performance. No plan will really make everyone equal. However, in the end, giving incentives will benefit everyone, whether or not they end up as equals.
Because being in school with other children is a valuable part of the education process?

Come on, you're not stupid...stop pretending to be so you can bash Obama.
Then why can't they go to a public school? If it's good for the goose... I don't care what Obama does with his kids. I just see a logical gap between saying that public schools are good enough for the masses while sending your own kids to a private school.