CallMeJoe
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Attacking Iraq because of the September 11th attacks makes as much sense as if Franklin Roosevelt had responded to Pearl Harbor by attacking Siam.After 9/11, the gloves were off, period...
Attacking Iraq because of the September 11th attacks makes as much sense as if Franklin Roosevelt had responded to Pearl Harbor by attacking Siam.After 9/11, the gloves were off, period...
Yeah, I'm sure Obama would have handled 9/11 and Katrina - with no Katrina lesson's learned - much more super duper than Bush...haha, the delusion is strong with you.... I can hear Obama at ground zero: "We can't hear you!" Silence. "Yo, we can't hear you!!!" "Calm people....my teleprompter is almost set up. Lets all turn to Mecca and bow as a show of respect while we wait..." :thumbsup:
Chuck
Attacking Iraq because of the September 11th attacks makes as much sense as if Franklin Roosevelt had responded to Pearl Harbor by attacking Siam.
How could you possibly think I'm a newcon? Seriously....
I'm not a NeoCon, I'm a Realist.
I'm not a NeoCon, I'm a Realist. Sorry if Reality is too harsh for you...
...until the US wants to make some very large changes - very large - we are not in the position to ignore 9/11's by going to a sh1thole country like Afghanistan, defeat the Taliban - if that's even possible, given the brainwashed and F'd up masses in that region, miss OBL - the whole point of going there, and still have zero change in the Muslim world because Afghanistan is not a central sh1thole that anyone cares about. Afghani's don't care about Afghanistan.
Sometimes Reality is not popular....
Chuck
chucky stfu. Iraq was a retarded fucking mistake and one that osama bin llama wanted us to make. So fucking sit down.
Look, I know it hurts the very core of your being that your primary rage source (Bush) made the right call at the right time (just with not 100% right execution) about your primary rage topic (Iraq). I don't expect this to be easy for you to take, given how long now Lefties have agreed with each other and agreed with the non-important and foot dragging 'rest of the world'...because they too don't like being told Lead Follow or GTFOoTW.
I realize it's too long term and too Right for you to grasp.
That doesn't mean it wasn't a good call to make. Just that leaving Afghanistan was a bad one; although, given how awesome our Allies perceive themselves, you'd think they'd easily have been able to take care of some cave dwellers all cornered without us...
Chuck
what does iraq have to do with michelle obama using her bully pulpit to improve eating habits?
Look, I know it hurts the very core of your being that your primary rage source (Bush) made the right call at the right time (just with not 100% right execution) about your primary rage topic (Iraq).
Sorry, I disagree, about going into Iraq. Obviously putting Saddam into power back in the day didn't turn out well, that doesn't need to be debated. The Muslim's needed to be sent a message that could not be missed, which was sent with Iraq - Afghanistan is a sh1thole no one cares about. That it removed a nutcase who eventually would have, or his sons would have, got some type of WMD, was just icing on the cake. That it moved the people of Iraq forward about 150 years on the social scale is more icing on the cake.
I realize it wasn't worth it to whoever lost a loved on here, no matter what the outcome was, nothing would ever have made it truly worthwhile. I realize there never should have been tax cuts in the middle of a World War (IMO, there should be a line on our paychecks for War Spending - call it exactly that, no sugar coating it - so people can see exactly what it's costing them).
However, long term, Iraq was the right call: If the Iraqi's/fundi's don't F it up.
Chuck
My sincere apologies for giving you the impetus to so fully expose the depths of your ignorance.It is unreal this has to be explained. Seriously...
My sincere apologies for giving you the impetus to so fully expose the depths of your ignorance.
My further apologies to the other posters in the thread for contributing to the derailing of this thread; it was quite sufficient to allow our resident "conservatives" (especially the OP) to expose the full extent of their paranoia and the degree of their disconnection from reality.
The First Lady should be able to suggest to a restaurant association that it would be nice to have healthier foods and more reasonable portions available without a chorus of idiots denouncing her attempt to "steal all our freedoms". You're as dim as Half-Governor Palin delivering cookies to that school in Pennsylvania, protesting the ban on sweets in school - a ban that no one had even suggested, much less implemented.
Not a neocon, just a deluded fellow traveler.Nice rant. You must care about Palin to bring her up....I don't. Go check out my OP in this thread....clearly I'm a raving NeoCon...lulz...
