Obama's pot problem

[Pr0d1gy]

our last 3 presidents smoked weed. its obvious how that shit ruins your mind and destroys your body.

Good one! lol

Obviously not true, but funny nonetheless.

 

[werepossum]

our last 3 presidents smoked weed. its obvious how that shit ruins your mind and destroys your body.

+1

 

[xj0hnx]

our last 3 presidents smoked weed. its obvious how that shit ruins your mind and destroys your body.

And the last two have done cocaine too.

 

[wirednuts]

And the last two have done cocaine too.

D.A.R.E. to be on drugs and become president.

 

[Ns1]

Today is the day that decides LA's MMJ future.

What scares the shit out of me is that if the dispensaries close down and people start growing, there is ZERO reprecussion against improper raids.

The fight over the future of medical marijuana dispensaries in Los Angeles drew patients, union organizers and even a priest to City Hall on Monday on the eve of a major City Council vote on whether to outlaw pot shops.

The merits of the proposed ban, which would prohibit storefront sales of marijuana while still allowing small groups of patients and caregivers to grow it collectively, were hashed out at dueling rallies.

At one, a few residents and local leaders who favor the ban complained about the crime and nuisance wrought by dispensaries. "This is just a disaster," said Jennifer Moran, who described walking with her young child through clouds of marijuana smoke outside a dispensary near her home in East Hollywood.

At a larger, more boisterous event, dozens of medical marijuana patients came together with recently unionized dispensary workers to support a counter-proposal that would allow 100 shops to stay open, with strict regulations about where and when they can operate.

City officials contend that all of the city's hundreds of dispensaries are now illegal, thanks to a state appellate court decision earlier this month.

The court upheld the city's original medical marijuana ordinance, which allowed dispensaries that registered with the city in 2007 after the council adopted a moratorium on new stores.

The court ruling reinstated that ordinance in place of a temporary one. But the original law had a sunset clause and has expired.

That means that "currently, there's really no ordinance," said Asha Greenberg, an assistant city attorney.

The city's repeated attempts to regulate pot shops against an ever-shifting legal landscape have drawn groans from dispensary opponents and supporters alike. Speaking at the union rally Monday, Michael Oliveri chided city lawmakers for treating the regulation of dispensaries "like a beach ball."

Oliveri, 28, who has cerebral palsy, weighs 84 pounds. After the news conference, he sat in his wheelchair talking to reporters and taking hits of marijuana, which he said helps him with pain and his appetite.

He and other patients say that without dispensaries, they will be forced to turn to the black market. They said that allowing some shops to remain open is the "compassionate approach."

"I'm not fighting to get high," he said. "I'm fighting to survive."

Lawmakers on both sides of the issue say they don't know what will happen Tuesday. Council President Herb Wesson and Councilman Paul Koretz support the proposal that would offer immunity to 100 dispensaries. Council members Jose Huizar, Jan Perry, Bernard C. Parks and Mitchell Englander are pushing for a full ban.

In the absence of clear city policy, Englander has taken matters into his own hands. Working with police and the Los Angeles County district attorney, he has successfully pushed dozens of dispensaries out of his district in the west San Fernando Valley. He said about 60 pot shops have shut down in recent years after their owners were prosecuted for criminal activity, including weapons charges.

 

[bfdd]

Ns1, there will be marches if that goes through. They do not know how much fuels the flame they're trying to extinguish. Shit could get ugly.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

There is so much red tape with this issue that the only thing that would make sense is a federal decriminalization, and that will never happen because everything has to be a business with those people. Forget the fact that if people could just grow their own that would release all that money into the consumer market again, instead of into the hands of drug dealers and tax collectors.

 

[werepossum]

And the last two have done cocaine too.

Well - maybe. One was accused by a convicted drug felon, and one wrote a book about it.

 

[Ns1]

Ns1, there will be marches if that goes through. They do not know how much fuels the flame they're trying to extinguish. Shit could get ugly.

sigh, interesting times ahead. it passed according to Fox11. No link yet.

LATIMES:

L.A. City Council votes to ban pot dispensaries

hope they don't kick down my door and shoot my dogs.

 

[Theb]

our last 3 presidents smoked weed. its obvious how that shit ruins your mind and destroys your body.

Clinton didn't inhale.

And the last two have done cocaine too.

I'm sure Clinton never used coke... he probably just liked the way it smelled.

 

[Ns1]

No seriously, can I sue the cops if they kick down my door and shoot my dogs if I'm legally growing under CA statutes?

History says NO, so IMHO my concern is warranted.

In the latest attempt to regulate what many say is an out-of-control proliferation of medical marijuana dispensaries in Los Angeles, the City Counted voted 14-0 Tuesday to ban pot shops.

Under the ban, each of the 762 dispensaries that have registered with the city will be sent a letter ordering them to shut down immediately. Those that don’t comply may face legal action from the city.

Medical marijuana activists who had packed the council chambers jeered when the vote came down. More than a dozen Los Angeles Police Department officers were called in to quell them.

Under the ban, medical patients and their caregivers will be able to grow and share the drug in small groups of three people or less.

But the activists say most patients don’t have the time or skills to cultivate marijuana. One dispensary owner told the council that it would cost patients a minimum of $5,000 to grow marijuana at home.
In a seemingly contradictory move, the council also voted to instruct city staff to draw up an ordinance that would allow a group of about 170 dispensaries that registered with the city several years ago to remain open.

Councilman Jose Huizar, who voted against that motion, said it might give the public “false hope” that the ban wound not be enforced.

He said the ban would be enforced, especially against problem dispensaries that have drawn complaints from neighbors. “Relief is on its way,” he said.

But he acknowledged that the city may not have the resources to shut down every dispensary in the city.

Councilman Paul Koretz, who initially voted against the ban, and who supported the motion to allow the oldest dispensaries to stay open, said he hoped the city would come up with a more compassionate law in the future. “We have shut off almost every way that a normal person can get access to marijuana,” he said. “It will be a ban until otherwise noted,” he said.

 

[bfdd]

They voted to say to ban them. Looking to see where the protests are going to be, probably take a few days off from work.

http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2012/07/marijuana_ban_dispensaries_angeles_city_council_vote.php

 

[Ns1]

<conspiracy theory>
shut down shops, force patients back to the streets
drug dealers grow in power due to new influx of customers/money
drug violence increases
big government uses that as an excuse to perpetuate war on drugs
war on drugs war on drugs war on drugs
$$$
</conspiracy theory>




So is OC going to ban dispensaries? We can still go down there until then right? lol

 

[bfdd]

<conspiracy theory>
shut down shops, force patients back to the streets
drug dealers grow in power due to new influx of customers/money
drug violence increases
big government uses that as an excuse to perpetuate war on drugs
war on drugs war on drugs war on drugs
$$$
</conspiracy theory>




So is OC going to ban dispensaries? We can still go down there until then right? lol

I thought they were already closing down? Btw just picked up some really good wax on the cheap. Tested 80% for 35 a gram.

 

[bfdd]

http://blog.sfgate.com/inoakland/20...-president-obama’s-campaign-visit-to-oakland/

Some of you guys didn't think it would happen, but it is. It's a big enough issue in some places over here that people will protest. Not just a bunch of lazy stoners.

Now that we also have the LA City Council ban, we will see more protests over that. I hope we can keep it civil, but you know LA likes to party a little to hard.

 

[DietDrThunder]

Pretty much, except for the wierdos who never did it and think it makes you dizzy or is the Devil's grass....lmao

Why does it make someone a "wierdo" for never trying it?

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Meh. Drugs are common. Drug war won't end. Government is always locking horns.

 

[TheNinja]

It's just ridiculous that with everything going on with economy, debt, healthcare, war, illegal aliens, jobs, etc.....that the government wastes time and money shutting down semi-legal pot dispensaries that pay taxes and employee 100s of people. I just cannot fathom the logic in that.

So now instead of people have jobs and companies paying taxes you are paying a bunch of federal agents to go around and shut these places down, putting more people on unemployment, and removing the taxes from the local government that these places used to pay. And that's only the financial portion.

 

[bfdd]

It's just ridiculous that with everything going on with economy, debt, healthcare, war, illegal aliens, jobs, etc.....that the government wastes time and money shutting down semi-legal pot dispensaries that pay taxes and employee 100s of people. I just cannot fathom the logic in that.

So now instead of people have jobs and companies paying taxes you are paying a bunch of federal agents to go around and shut these places down, putting more people on unemployment, and removing the taxes from the local government that these places used to pay. And that's only the financial portion.

It's ridiculous. I'm trying to find out about protests, but I can't seem to find anything right now.

 

[Darwin333]

It's kind of dishonest to say Obama is cracking down on pot, though - he ordered the federal agencies not to prosecute, they ignored him gambling that the first black president wouldn't dare fire DEA and DOJ chiefs for following the law.

Obama is their BOSS. A person in that high of a position does not openly disobey direct orders like this. They might resign because they disagree with the orders but they don't just say "fuck him, I am going to very publicly disobey his orders and he ain't gonna do shit".

I'm 100% in the pro-legalization camp, but that really should come from convincing people of that. If the majority of the state votes it should be illegal, and federal law says it's illegal, it's kind of problematic for any president to decide it's de facto legal. It would be a different story if California wanted it legal and was being forced to do otherwise by the feds.

Two entirely different issues. MMJ IS legal in the state of California, Obama's DEA is busting legally operating (under California law, not Federal) MMJ businesses.

 

[Saint Nick]

So would you guys in CA say we are regressing as far as MJ laws go? I feel like headway is no longer being made in the "tax and regulate" land scape. Of course, then again, maybe you are not in that group of people.

It is decriminalized here in NE, and no one gives a crap about it. That's sort of a good thing and a bad thing.

 

[Ns1]

So would you guys in CA say we are regressing as far as MJ laws go? I feel like headway is no longer being made in the "tax and regulate" land scape. Of course, then again, maybe you are not in that group of people.

It is decriminalized here in NE, and no one gives a crap about it. That's sort of a good thing and a bad thing.

It's already been "decriminalized" in LA. Nobody goes to jail for minor marijuana offenses. You just get a ticket and move on with your life.

That said, yes I feel that MJ has regressed a bit. Honestly, I would not care about this new development at all if there were protections made for people growing at home.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Why does it make someone a "wierdo" for never trying it?

80% of American adults have tried it according to recent polls.

Anyone else notice that all of the wierd psycho attacks lately have included info that says the psychos used marijuana? They said the face-eater guy was only on pot, now they're saying Holmes used pot and Vicodin.

Such a fucking joke...lol

 

[wirednuts]

i was on pot once and i ate a pussy. it was a horrific experience